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35 minutes ago, mastershake said:

I want to give Wink a lot of credit for this defensive play with:

- A banged up secondary that was already thin to begin with, with guys off the practice squad and two rookies

- Still no Kayvon or Ojulari, and Williams going down but still held the D together.

 

That was kinda Winks MO in Baltimore.

Sure he had great players but even without them his defenses were competitive.  

Luckily his system has always been secondary friendly.

"Play man" 

Lol 

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8 minutes ago, Treehugger said:

It's almost like they're making adjustments during the game. Wild concept.

When we were losing the Giants talking heads were like "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS HALFTIME ADJUSTMENTS!!!" but the game plan has looked totally different in the second half two weeks in a row. :confused:

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42 minutes ago, Sephiroth said:

When we were losing the Giants talking heads were like "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS HALFTIME ADJUSTMENTS!!!" but the game plan has looked totally different in the second half two weeks in a row. :confused:

Yeah. Second half was more solid.  But we can’t give up so many TD and settle for the FG.  Our defense came through for us. 

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Nick Shook's takeaways:

  1. If you like field goals, this was your game. Graham Gano received an opportunity to earn some revenge versus his former team, and his right leg certainly rose to the occasion. Gano finished a perfect 4 for 4 on field goal attempts and 1 for 1 on extra points, scoring 13 of New York's 19 points and putting the Giants ahead for good with a 56-yard bomb with 3:34 left in the game. Carolina followed suit, as Eddy Pineiro made all three of his field goals and his lone extra point, perhaps uncovering a permanent option at the position for the Panthers. Field goals aren't all that thrilling, of course, and didn't produce satisfying outcomes during the game -- New York settled for three after recovering a game-opening fumble, and Carolina took the points after stalling deep in New York's red zone -- but one more boot was enough to get the Giants a win and some redemption for Gano.
  2. Carolina's offense remains stuck in the mud. Baker Mayfield's second outing with the Panthers looked a lot like his first: passes batted down at the line of scrimmage, risky throws into coverage, a frantic presence in the pocket and missed connections all afternoon. Not all was Mayfield's fault, of course (Shi Smith and Ian Thomas each dropped passes), but one play -- a third-and-1 pass Mayfield fired to the ceiling of his intended target's catch radius, producing an incompletion -- effectively explained the entire afternoon for Mayfield and the Panthers. Carolina has struggled in the first halves of each of its two games, then discovers a temporary rhythm in the second half before ultimately allowing the moment to overwhelm it. Christian McCaffrey was more involved this time around, but it still wasn't enough to secure a win, and the Panthers lost the time-of-possession battle by a significant margin for a second straight week. The kinks remain in this group.
  3. The Brian Daboll-led Giants are...fun? New York's new regime has breathed new life into the organization, and even if the team's talent level isn't yet where the club would like it to be, the Giants certainly play with passion. New York forced two turnovers, including a fumble on the opening kickoff, and caused plenty of problems for Mayfield and the Panthers with a combination of creative blitzes and timely plays on the ball all afternoon. Carolina was clearly frustrated by the Giants by the end of the game, and Matt Rhule's decision to punt just outside the two-minute warning ended up standing as a small sign of surrender, even if the logic made sense in the moment. The reason, of course: The Giants refused to give the ball back, punctuating a hard-fought win by finishing the game on a strong note. These Giants might look different a year from now, but they're already playing like they believe -- and New York seems ready to embrace them.

Next Gen stat of the game: New York's defense improved dramatically in the second half Sunday, going from an 18.5 pressure percentage in the first two quarters to 49.2% in the final two periods.

NFL Research: The Giants have started 2-0 for the first time since 2016. In that season, New York finished with an 11-5 record. It was also the last time the Giants reached the playoffs.

 

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4 hours ago, BlueInCanada said:

That was kinda Winks MO in Baltimore.

Sure he had great players but even without them his defenses were competitive.  

Luckily his system has always been secondary friendly.

"Play man" 

Lol 

That's not necessarily true. Wink had serious secondary issues last year in Baltimore and didn't have the depth. The result was some ugly passing yards numbers because Wink wouldn't deviate or adjust his plans. Harbaugh was not happy with some of the playcalling. 

We haven't played against a good quarterback yet to test us properly. The good thing is if we can get our defensive ends to actually play then that should take some pressure off the secondary.

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36 minutes ago, boohyah said:

That's not necessarily true. Wink had serious secondary issues last year in Baltimore and didn't have the depth. The result was some ugly passing yards numbers because Wink wouldn't deviate or adjust his plans. Harbaugh was not happy with some of the playcalling. 

 

Sounds like Baltimore is still having that problem. Tua put up those monster numbers today, but most of them in the 4th. 

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35 minutes ago, boohyah said:

That's not necessarily true. Wink had serious secondary issues last year in Baltimore and didn't have the depth. The result was some ugly passing yards numbers because Wink wouldn't deviate or adjust his plans. Harbaugh was not happy with some of the playcalling. 

We haven't played against a good quarterback yet to test us properly. The good thing is if we can get our defensive ends to actually play then that should take some pressure off the secondary.

Heard Thibs was close this week. With the extra day next week, it would be nice to have Thibs and Robinson back against Dallas.  Ojulari would be a bonus.

Here's hoping Williams is okay toplay met week.  We will have to see.

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8 hours ago, gmenroc said:

Heard Thibs was close this week. With the extra day next week, it would be nice to have Thibs and Robinson back against Dallas.  Ojulari would be a bonus.

Here's hoping Williams is okay toplay met week.  We will have to see.

The Williams injury is worrisome.   Looked like an MCL sprain and those are a bitch to heal (6-8 weeks).

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