BlueInCanada Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I mean really, none of these QBs and you can quote it in five years, none of these QBs will be anything special, at most it's gonna be Jackson simply because he will be the first QB to rush for 1500 yards. Barkley was simply their guy and you can tell it with how much Getty is loving this pick, he's everything you would want in a player. Herny in round two is probably the best thing in a long time for the team simply because he's a round one talent in round two without having to trade up. He is probably a more NFL ready guard than Nelson. Carter is a day one rotational starter who is the most pure pass rusher the Giants have drafted in a very long time. Hill is going to surprise people simply because he's a DT who can pass rush, which once again hasnt happened with Alford was on the team. Lulu and McIntosh are just fodder at this point. Hell of a haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I gave our draft a B+. I wasnt to thrilled about the Barkley pick for the simple fact that we could have traded down to the 5th and picked a few more pick alone the way. But every pick seem to be solid. Obviously, I enjoy the Hernandez pick. I like to see what this kid brings. Also, its going to at least 3 years before we can actually tell how good or bad this draft class truly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Barkley wouldn't have made it past 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 And come on man! Hernandez more NFL ready than Nelson? That is a serious case of post draft euphoria right there. Some boards still had at least one other guard higher on the board. Pass pro concerns in Hernandez's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 But those points aside, I almost always feel good coming out of the draft. I feel especially good about this group. Last class I thought was this good, right after the draft?... Can't think of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 To be fair he was shitting on Nelson before the draft. Hes the only person on the planet who was doing it, but hes been consistent. Im ok with how the first two rounds turned out. I dont know anything about the rest of the picks but the offense looks greatly improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 To be fair he was shitting on Nelson before the draft. Hes the only person on the planet who was doing it, but hes been consistent. Im thrilled with how the first two rounds turned out. I dont know anything about the rest of the picks but the offense looks greatly improved. I really like the Lorenz Carter pick. 6 5 250 and run a 4.5... great against the run and above average in pass coverage. So the measure are there. Im hope for a Carl Banks to LB for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I gave our draft a B+. I wasnt to thrilled about the Barkley pick for the simple fact that we could have traded down to the 5th and picked a few more pick alone the way. But every pick seem to be solid. Obviously, I enjoy the Hernandez pick. I like to see what this kid brings. Also, its going to at least 3 years before we can actually tell how good or bad this draft class truly is. Who said Denver or whoever had the 5th pick was a willing trading partner anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Who said Denver or whoever had the 5th pick was a willing trading partner anyway? I saw it in the coffee residue at the bottom of the dunkin donuts cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Let's be frank... you really can't fuck this draft up... for fuck's sake we had the 2nd pick overall... I'm glad DG didn't get too cute with the pick and landed us the best player in the draft... of course there's no way of knowing whether any of these guys will pan out... I think the 1st 3 rounds were executed as perfectly as possible... we've had no running game since Ahmad Bradshaw was cut by the idiots at the FO. We arguably now have a potential superstar at RB... and we go out and get the best guard available... BOOM... another home run. Then we draft a LB... yea belei dat... The Giants now draft LBers... a very good one. Somehow who may turn out better than the guy Dallas drafted in the 1st round. The BJ Hill pick surprised me at first but the more I read about the kid the more I like it... not too crazy about the picks thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Nas, I kind of agree, but teams blow the 2nd overall pick almost as routine as not. I'm trying to keep my enthusiasm manageable, what I really like is that half the draft was linemen. And I like the type of linemen they're drafting on D, it signals some interesting stuff is on the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I thought drafting one defensive tackle was a good idea, two feels like overkill. I've gotta see how this comes together before I complain about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Havent been this happy since we took this guy at 18 C, .wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Havent been this happy since we took this guy at 18 C, .wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Hill is going to surprise people simply because he's a DT who can pass rush, which once again hasnt happened with Alford was on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I think we have 2 obvious and highly likely long term starters (if not better) in Barkely and Hernandez, with potential for Carter to be a 3-4 starting LB or at least sub-package contributor. BJ Hill and RJ McIntosh can at least be rotational guys at first, then develop into starters, although Star Ledger seems to think BJ Hill will start at DE this year, with Harrison at the NT, and Tomlinson at the other DE in the 3-4 alignment. Lauletta is the real crapshoot. I like what I'm hearing about him and what I've seen from his senior bowl tape on YouTube, but am cautiously optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindgreed1 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I had you guys at a B Cowboys B Redskins C Eagles A No pluses or minuses in this draft for NFCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 As far as QB goes, Id much rather draft the Patriots way and nab one in the mid rounds every year to every couple years and develop behind a proven leader than throw shit at the wall to see what sticks as far as those 4 QBs were concerned. The Cowboys, Rams, and to a lesser extent Jags have proven that a workhorse RB improves your entire offense and can be the backbone to rebuild on. Theyve already gone all in on Manning and Im personally believing they are all in for more than just this season. Even if they can bounce back to 9 wins and a potential wild card, Ill be happy with the direction the team is going. I think with that theyve done with coaching, draft, players returning from injury and free agency though, they are a viable contender for a wild card. The Cowboys have lost pretty much their core. Redskins wont win win Alex Smith and no playmakers. Eagles are a legit threat to repeat but I think the Giants arent far off from being able to run with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Plus, if you have to transition QBS, what better way than have an offensive cast that includes Beckham, Shepard, Engram, and Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Agreed driz and Im glad we are going for it. The only thing that worries me is that the nfc is so freaking stacked now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Agreed driz and Im glad we are going for it. The only thing that worries me is that the nfc is so freaking stacked now. Everyone looks stacked on paper and the season starts. Looking forward to sweeping the division this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Everyone looks stacked on paper and the season starts. Looking forward to sweeping the division this year. True but i feel like on paper its gonna be a harder field to compete with. Eagles, saints, Vikings, rams, falcons and probably packers are all tough outs this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I think we'll certainly be better this year but I also think .500 is probably our ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 I think we'll certainly be better this year but I also think .500 is probably our ceiling. I think they get over .500 but they dont make the playoffs. Then again you never know, a healthy OBJ/Engram/Shepard and now Barkley should be pretty scary with Shurmur and Shula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I think we'll certainly be better this year but I also think .500 is probably our ceiling. Pretty much where I'm at. Offensive line is still too shaky, so is the secondary and not sure we have the horses in the front Seven to mask it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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