BurnThePhilFans Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Deangelo Hall is set to be cut this week. Who thinks they'll make a play on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashTalker92 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 where you get your facts from???.. it makes no sense to cut this guy when they paid a crap load of cash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 where you get your facts from???.. it makes no sense to cut this guy when they paid a crap load of cash... http://www.sportswrath.com/index.php?showtopic=25396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashTalker92 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 http://www.sportswrath.com/index.php?showtopic=25396 thanks bro. i always tent to jump on shits.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesta Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Jerry's already salivating I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnThePhilFans Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Its on NFL.com and I heard it mentioned on TV. Don't shoot the messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I hope they do pick him up. Hall sucks. He sucked when the Raiders traded for him and he sucks worse today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I think we should sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadEgg Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Deangelo Hall is set to be cut this week. Who thinks they'll make a play on him. So let me get this straight, junior. The Cowboys by all accounts were wrong by picking up Roy Williams because quality WR's grow on trees and they could have just drafted a guy next year who would have been a big hit, like Limus Sweed, and James Hardy in Buffalo. Not to mention the recent failures of countless Southern Cal and Florida WRs who were supposed to be locks in the NFL. No. The Cowboys were wrong for picking up a proven commidity at WR because they should have traded for a CB. However, no one has ever said what team has a quality corner to spare and would have just handed over a quality corner to the Cowboys. Denver would have parted with Champ Bailey? The Eagles would have give a division rival one of their corners? Don't make me laugh... Now, a qualifty corner, not necessarily a great one, but one that would probably do better than Anthony Henry is available -- yet, the Cowboys would be wrong for looking into him. Ironically, many posters on this board wanted the Giants to make a play on Hall this past offseason... If nothing else, this place sure is entertaining... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Most posters on this board said we didn't want Hall. He's proven nothing since he got into the league except for the fact he's a cancer,but he has "major upside". Now we see he hasn't even got that. If the Cowboys want to look at him, fine, off you go. If they don't they I bet any money that if a guy like Corey Webster became available, they'll be on him like hotcakes. Right now, any Cowboy fan, ANY COWBOY FAN, out there, needs to shut their mouth criticizing any team or player outside their own team. Let them take stock of their own team, a team with an offensive line (THE BIGGEST OFFENSIVE LINE IN FOOTBALL), playing like shit. A team who's coach is a lame duck, who's offensive coordinator is now not so hot, and a defensive co-ordinator who is having the lame duck coach make his calls for him. An owner who decides who plays and who doesn't. A front office who feels the need to get a WR (for 3 draft picks no less, including a 1st!!!!!), but yet for the last 3 weeks has shown it has no backup QB and let's the Lions go out and get Daunte Culpepper, or even a Chris Simms. Not an effort to go out and get someone. Now they have all these wonderful wideouts and not one guy to throw it to them. Smart stuff that. Of course, you can't get Cowboys fans to shut up, because if time has told us anything, they are delusional, like the team itself, it goes hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 So let me get this straight, junior. The Cowboys by all accounts were wrong by picking up Roy Williams because quality WR's grow on trees and they could have just drafted a guy next year who would have been a big hit, like Limus Sweed, and James Hardy in Buffalo. Not to mention the recent failures of countless Southern Cal and Florida WRs who were supposed to be locks in the NFL. No. The Cowboys were wrong for picking up a proven commidity at WR because they should have traded for a CB. However, no one has ever said what team has a quality corner to spare and would have just handed over a quality corner to the Cowboys. Denver would have parted with Champ Bailey? The Eagles would have give a division rival one of their corners? Don't make me laugh... Now, a qualifty corner, not necessarily a great one, but one that would probably do better than Anthony Henry is available -- yet, the Cowboys would be wrong for looking into him. Ironically, many posters on this board wanted the Giants to make a play on Hall this past offseason... If nothing else, this place sure is entertaining... Proven by whose standards? He has all the talent in the world, but in Detroit, he had average stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadEgg Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Proven by whose standards? He has all the talent in the world, but in Detroit, he had average stats. He is better than average and most of his stats are better than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadEgg Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Most posters on this board said we didn't want Hall. He's proven nothing since he got into the league except for the fact he's a cancer,but he has "major upside". Now we see he hasn't even got that. If the Cowboys want to look at him, fine, off you go. If they don't they I bet any money that if a guy like Corey Webster became available, they'll be on him like hotcakes. Right now, any Cowboy fan, ANY COWBOY FAN, out there, needs to shut their mouth criticizing any team or player outside their own team. Let them take stock of their own team, a team with an offensive line (THE BIGGEST OFFENSIVE LINE IN FOOTBALL), playing like shit. A team who's coach is a lame duck, who's offensive coordinator is now not so hot, and a defensive co-ordinator who is having the lame duck coach make his calls for him. An owner who decides who plays and who doesn't. A front office who feels the need to get a WR (for 3 draft picks no less, including a 1st!!!!!), but yet for the last 3 weeks has shown it has no backup QB and let's the Lions go out and get Daunte Culpepper, or even a Chris Simms. Not an effort to go out and get someone. Now they have all these wonderful wideouts and not one guy to throw it to them. Smart stuff that. Of course, you can't get Cowboys fans to shut up, because if time has told us anything, they are delusional, like the team itself, it goes hand in hand. Hmmm...all riled up for someone who has me on ignore. Upset that I didn't come by Monday morning and pay homage to the team that beat the Replacements? Well, that's just too bad, Boohyah. A couple of inaccuracies in your angry rant need clarification. I did not say "most" posters on this board wanted to look into Hall. I believe I said many, which is probably accurrate. Also, I don't think I was criticizing any team or players. I simply used Hardy and Sweed as examples of 1st rounders that don't develope all that fast. Regarding the rest of this jibberish, that has nothing to do with DeAngelo Hall, you should be aware that, as a Cowboys fan, I have every right to state my opinion on all things football. And I certainly will not stop stating my opinion because you have an issue with it. Really, if you are this frazzled by the harmless post I made, by all means put me on ignore and be on your merry way. :bye: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 there were quite a few on this board who wanted deangelo hall last spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 He is better than average and most of his stats are better than average. In 5 years in Detroit, he only amassed 1,000 yds once, and had 2 seasons where he notched 8 TD's. The most in his career for a year. OK, SLIGHTLY above average, but no where near someone like a T.O., Moss, etc. Plus, he's a head case like T.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadEgg Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 In 5 years in Detroit, he only amassed 1,000 yds once, and had 2 seasons where he notched 8 TD's. The most in his career for a year. OK, SLIGHTLY above average, but no where near someone like a T.O., Moss, etc. Plus, he's a head case like T.O. Actually, his numbers are comparable to TO's 1st 5 years. I'm not saying he will be as good. But he is good. 1996 SFO 16 35 520 14.9 46 4 23 1 1 1997 SFO 16 60 936 15.6 56 8 48 1 0 1998 SFO 16 67 1097 16.4 79 14 52 1 1 1999 SFO 14 60 754 12.6 36 4 36 1 1 2000 SFO 14 97 1451 15.0 69 13 65 2 1 2004 DET 14 54 817 15.1 46 8 34 1 1 2005 DET 13 45 687 15.3 51 8 31 0 0 2006 DET 16 82 1310 16.0 60 7 66 2 2 2007 DET 12 64 838 13.1 91 5 34 2 1 2008 DAL 3 3 38 12.7 28 1 2 0 0 2008 DET 5 17 232 13.6 25 1 14 0 0 If you look at their 1st 4 years, they each only had 1 thousand yard receiving year and their TD's are comparable. While Ownes had Rice to contend with, Williams has had Johnson the last two years. Also, one could argue that Owens played in a better system with better QBs in SF, while Detriot is garbage. This year is a throw away for Roy, at least statistically, because Detroit is awful and he is learning a new system in a Dallas offense that will spread the ball all over the place anyway. The head case comment I completely disagree. He is as much of a head case as any NFL WR, but not nearly the problem that guys like TO, Ocho and Plexico can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Actually, his numbers are comparable to TO's 1st 5 years. I'm not saying he will be as good. But he is good. 1996 SFO 16 35 520 14.9 46 4 23 1 1 1997 SFO 16 60 936 15.6 56 8 48 1 0 1998 SFO 16 67 1097 16.4 79 14 52 1 1 1999 SFO 14 60 754 12.6 36 4 36 1 1 2000 SFO 14 97 1451 15.0 69 13 65 2 1 2004 DET 14 54 817 15.1 46 8 34 1 1 2005 DET 13 45 687 15.3 51 8 31 0 0 2006 DET 16 82 1310 16.0 60 7 66 2 2 2007 DET 12 64 838 13.1 91 5 34 2 1 2008 DAL 3 3 38 12.7 28 1 2 0 0 2008 DET 5 17 232 13.6 25 1 14 0 0 If you look at their 1st 4 years, they each only had 1 thousand yard receiving year and their TD's are comparable. While Ownes had Rice to contend with, Williams has had Johnson the last two years. Also, one could argue that Owens played in a better system with better QBs in SF, while Detriot is garbage. This year is a throw away for Roy, at least statistically, because Detroit is awful and he is learning a new system in a Dallas offense that will spread the ball all over the place anyway. The head case comment I completely disagree. He is as much of a head case as any NFL WR, but not nearly the problem that guys like TO, Ocho and Plexico can be. With one stud WR, a decent #2, and the best TE in the league, you agree to give up a first round pick for a guy who really hasn't done that much? Roy is already complaining about not getting enough playing time. He says he knows the system but Dallas is choosing not to play him enough. I think Dallas would like to have that first rounder back considering the state of their o-line and secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesta Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 So let me get this straight, junior. The Cowboys by all accounts were wrong by picking up Roy Williams because quality WR's grow on trees and they could have just drafted a guy next year who would have been a big hit, like Limus Sweed, and James Hardy in Buffalo. Not to mention the recent failures of countless Southern Cal and Florida WRs who were supposed to be locks in the NFL. No. The Cowboys were wrong for picking up a proven commidity at WR because they should have traded for a CB. However, no one has ever said what team has a quality corner to spare and would have just handed over a quality corner to the Cowboys. Denver would have parted with Champ Bailey? The Eagles would have give a division rival one of their corners? Don't make me laugh... Now, a qualifty corner, not necessarily a great one, but one that would probably do better than Anthony Henry is available -- yet, the Cowboys would be wrong for looking into him. Ironically, many posters on this board wanted the Giants to make a play on Hall this past offseason... If nothing else, this place sure is entertaining... lol this is what you want to come in and respond to? You're a fucking joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Actually, his numbers are comparable to TO's 1st 5 years. I'm not saying he will be as good. But he is good. 1996 SFO 16 35 520 14.9 46 4 23 1 1 1997 SFO 16 60 936 15.6 56 8 48 1 0 1998 SFO 16 67 1097 16.4 79 14 52 1 1 1999 SFO 14 60 754 12.6 36 4 36 1 1 2000 SFO 14 97 1451 15.0 69 13 65 2 1 2004 DET 14 54 817 15.1 46 8 34 1 1 2005 DET 13 45 687 15.3 51 8 31 0 0 2006 DET 16 82 1310 16.0 60 7 66 2 2 2007 DET 12 64 838 13.1 91 5 34 2 1 2008 DAL 3 3 38 12.7 28 1 2 0 0 2008 DET 5 17 232 13.6 25 1 14 0 0 If you look at their 1st 4 years, they each only had 1 thousand yard receiving year and their TD's are comparable. While Ownes had Rice to contend with, Williams has had Johnson the last two years. Also, one could argue that Owens played in a better system with better QBs in SF, while Detriot is garbage. This year is a throw away for Roy, at least statistically, because Detroit is awful and he is learning a new system in a Dallas offense that will spread the ball all over the place anyway. The head case comment I completely disagree. He is as much of a head case as any NFL WR, but not nearly the problem that guys like TO, Ocho and Plexico can be. Your stretching never ceases to amaze me. PLAX????? Thats a far cry from the havoc T.O. and Chad have created. Does our team look like their hurting from Burress' actions? The answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hey, go for it. I would love to see the Cowboys take Hall and that contract. You could use the money you saved on trading away 3 draft picks in a panic-move for Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 You should go for him, but he better be cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnThePhilFans Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Actually, his numbers are comparable to TO's 1st 5 years. I'm not saying he will be as good. But he is good. 1996 SFO 16 35 520 14.9 46 4 23 1 1 1997 SFO 16 60 936 15.6 56 8 48 1 0 1998 SFO 16 67 1097 16.4 79 14 52 1 1 1999 SFO 14 60 754 12.6 36 4 36 1 1 2000 SFO 14 97 1451 15.0 69 13 65 2 1 2004 DET 14 54 817 15.1 46 8 34 1 1 2005 DET 13 45 687 15.3 51 8 31 0 0 2006 DET 16 82 1310 16.0 60 7 66 2 2 2007 DET 12 64 838 13.1 91 5 34 2 1 2008 DAL 3 3 38 12.7 28 1 2 0 0 2008 DET 5 17 232 13.6 25 1 14 0 0 If you look at their 1st 4 years, they each only had 1 thousand yard receiving year and their TD's are comparable. While Ownes had Rice to contend with, Williams has had Johnson the last two years. Also, one could argue that Owens played in a better system with better QBs in SF, while Detriot is garbage. This year is a throw away for Roy, at least statistically, because Detroit is awful and he is learning a new system in a Dallas offense that will spread the ball all over the place anyway. The head case comment I completely disagree. He is as much of a head case as any NFL WR, but not nearly the problem that guys like TO, Ocho and Plexico can be. 11 days till Washington puts the nail in Dallas' coffin. I'm sure you'll have a nice way to spin things though the following Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I think we should sign him. we are 7-1 and we have great team chemistry and morale .....we dont need an Al Davis reject to wreck it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnThePhilFans Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 we are 7-1 and we have great team chemistry and morale .....we dont need an Al Davis reject to wreck it ! Agreed. This isn't baseball. If your a true superbowl contender you don't make a move for a big name mid season (cough cough Dallas).... plus he's very over rated. He's not even the best corner on their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 we are 7-1 and we have great team chemistry and morale .....we dont need an Al Davis reject to wreck it ! I'm very content with whatever decision our FO makes. they've earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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