jranieli Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I don't think anyone is going to pay him 45 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Yeah, he can hang that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 He'll probably get tagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Barkley likely hitting FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 I do not want to lose Barkely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I really wanted to keep Jones but he has to be reasonable about his market value. If the window's closed on these two guys and we go into full rebuild, I think I'm actually OK with that. I believe in this front office, even though I'd clearly do a much better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Sephiroth said: I really wanted to keep Jones but he has to be reasonable about his market value. If the window's closed on these two guys and we go into full rebuild, I think I'm actually OK with that. I believe in this front office, even though I'd clearly do a much better job. It's kind of the state he was left with. Both guys are core players on a team with not many of them and are both set to hit free agency. The team is also in a rebuild with more of this roster being FAs next off season as well. I trust Schoen to make the right call but this current one is really going to define his GM career here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said: It's kind of the state he was left with. Both guys are core players on a team with not many of them and are both set to hit free agency. The team is also in a rebuild with more of this roster being FAs next off season as well. I trust Schoen to make the right call but this current one is really going to define his GM career here. Yeah I agree. I think he'll tag Jones, drop Barkley but I guess we'll see. If Jones balks at the tag, trade him to a team that will pay him 45 million. I think he'll find the tag really palatable when a trade partner doesn't materialize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Tagging Jones means that whole hit goes on this years cap. So if Jones gets capped, Barkley could still be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, boohyah said: Tagging Jones means that whole hit goes on this years cap. So if Jones gets capped, Barkley could still be gone. True, but Jones has had one good season out of four. I'm ok with having another year to evaluate him if we're expected to spend big for him in upcoming seasons. Also, maybe you draft a developmental guy like Levis or Richardson this year and let him sit if you can't sign Jones to a long-term deal. I don't think those guys are ready to start but they may become good players if left to marinate for a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, boohyah said: Tagging Jones means that whole hit goes on this years cap. So if Jones gets capped, Barkley could still be gone. Also, I know he's had a good season, but Barkley has almost no leverage. There's a ton of good free agent running backs available and it's a deep RB draft as well. Someone might overpay for him, but even if you have to wait until the first wave of FA is over, there'll be someone left that can come in and produce at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 We say that but we haven’t had anyone really produce before Barkley since prime bradshaW. not to mention a great part of our offense was the run pass option, teams aren’t gonna bite on the handoff like that with someone like Brightwell or Brieda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, The P said: I do not want to lose Barkely. This He is too dynamic to Let go. A Lot of intangibLes there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Sephiroth said: I really wanted to keep Jones but he has to be reasonable about his market value. If the window's closed on these two guys and we go into full rebuild, I think I'm actually OK with that. I believe in this front office, even though I'd clearly do a much better job. Agree Have to commit to Longterm solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Surprised they aren’t interested in tagging Barkley. I think going year to year with a rb after rookie contract is the way to go, especially if he’s better than the tag number. They must either really not believe in paying running backs at all or anticipate using it on Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Drop both, draft strong and pick up Carr or Jimmy G. I can fix this shit better than Seph. Arch Manning in '25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, BronxRik said: Drop both, draft strong and pick up Carr or Jimmy G. I can fix this shit better than Seph. Arch Manning in '25. I mean I don't want to call this man a genius. But this man is a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said: I mean I don't want to call this man a genius. But this man is a genius. My mother (God rest her soul) thanks you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Don't overpay for guys you have. As a 55-year veteran of Giants Love there are always better guys out there It is just a matter of waiting for them. I would give both decent numbers in terms of pay but I would not overpay for either. Barkley in his own way contributed just as much to the success of an also ran playoff team. DJ is not the second coming nor should we overpay for Barkley. We can't afford to overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/20/2023 at 4:17 PM, BronxRik said: November 2022. Got everything and more. Congratulations, Rik. Would you consider that the norm though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Sephiroth said: I really wanted to keep Jones but he has to be reasonable about his market value. If the window's closed on these two guys and we go into full rebuild, I think I'm actually OK with that. I believe in this front office, even though I'd clearly do a much better job. I think the team and both Jones and Barkley will come to terms. I work in finance, and I see this type of gamesmanship all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 hours ago, BronxRik said: Drop both, draft strong and pick up Carr or Jimmy G. I can fix this shit better than Seph. Arch Manning in '25. I love you, Rik but no one.. and I mean no one fixes NFL teams like Seph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Nas said: Congratulations, Rik. Would you consider that the norm though? No, but I was answering a specific quote that asked when was the last time any of us got what we wanted from our employers. And that's all I was doing. Not being argumentative, or being a smartass, just answering a question. Same here, no I don't think it's the norm, but I bet it happens more than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Nas said: I love you, Rik but no one.. and I mean no one fixes NFL teams like Seph. But...but...but...I'm a genius. The Canukian said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, BronxRik said: But...but...but...I'm a genius. The Canukian said so. Both things can be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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