RandolphScott Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Plz migrate south with the rest of your people to Boca and retire, Mr. Magoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 His team just got blown out by backups. Sure he'll claim "IT'S ALL A REBUILD! WE WERE TRYING TO COMPETE IN 2018/2019!" But Mara needs to grow a pair. Don't even let him back in the building tomorrow. He might have gotten us a few core players for the next GM, but that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Some reports are Tisch was fuming and was verbally confrontational with Gentleman after the game. Mara wasnt happy as well and didn't stay for the full game and went to the office with some Giants FO. I think Gettleman is done sooner than we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3VIN Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Judge is shit for a no bs guy this team is a bunch of bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 There's no point doing anything until end of season. Solder and Beal made decisions not to play. Gettlemen didn't get Baker into trouble, he didn't hurt Saquon/Sheppard or McKinney. This is not a team that right now that can afford to lose anyone. We need to see if these guys can improve some by years end. Fact is, with all the the injuries on the 49ers, it was their offensive line that schooled us today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, boohyah said: There's no point doing anything until end of season. Solder and Beal made decisions not to play. Gettlemen didn't get Baker into trouble, he didn't hurt Saquon/Sheppard or McKinney. This is not a team that right now that can afford to lose anyone. We need to see if these guys can improve some by years end. Fact is, with all the the injuries on the 49ers, it was their offensive line that schooled us today. This is all true, but we've been hearing about the O-line rebuild for three seasons now. Unless you think Nate Solder was the difference-maker it is not acceptable that this is what they look like. The foundation of any offense is the O-line and four out of five of them are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Plus the secondary actually got better by not having Beal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 First ever move was to be on Jonathan Stewart’s doorstep the minute free agency started. I tried to be open minded to this guy because of the Jones pick but the guys a total joke and the game has passed him by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 If you believe we're just Nate Solder, DeAndre Baker, and Sam Beal away from being a good team, then you probably believe Trump is a good businessman who pays taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I clearly didn't say that. But think what you like. This team was thin anyway so losing starters hurts us worse. Not supporting gettleman on this ,see my comments on his late round drafts. But firing him after 3 games won't make a difference. He also needs to be judged on, well Judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I’m still angry this morning ( which is unusual ) . It was such an embarrassing performance and we also quit ( despite what Leonard Williams said ) This team has no Offense and showed no imagination or fight or desire. That is what annoys me and I want to blame someone for this. Mara , Gettleman , Judge ..... take your pick. We are the second worse team in the NFL again ( just above the fucking Jets ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, boohyah said: I clearly didn't say that. But think what you like. This team was thin anyway so losing starters hurts us worse. Not supporting gettleman on this ,see my comments on his late round drafts. But firing him after 3 games won't make a difference. He also needs to be judged on, well Judge. That's my thing we lost most of the secondaries starters before the year even began. Even Peppers has been off the field more than on it so far. This team is a bunch of no talents because any talent we have is off the field on IR, going to prison or stayed out because of the rona. It's an awful roster with no depth that Gettleman built and he'll get his due at seasons end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I'm still good to keep Judge. I like his energy and everything he says I seem to agree with. I think he needs to develop too as a first time head coach, but we are devoid of talent and 1, you can't do much with that and 2, that falls on Gettleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, UK-Giantsfan said: I’m still angry this morning ( which is unusual ) . It was such an embarrassing performance and we also quit ( despite what Leonard Williams said ) This team has no Offense and showed no imagination or fight or desire. That is what annoys me and I want to blame someone for this. Mara , Gettleman , Judge ..... take your pick. We are the second worse team in the NFL again ( just above the fucking Jets ) Not to split hairs, but we're 4th worst. Gotta work a bit to drop down ro 2nd worst...but with the Rams next week...might be there soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Fun fact from twitter, Gettleman has made 26 picks as GM of the Giants. 7 if those picks started this year. 5 are no longer on the roster. We wonder why we are so bad lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 6 hours ago, gmenroc said: I'm still good to keep Judge. I like his energy and everything he says I seem to agree with. I think he needs to develop too as a first time head coach, but we are devoid of talent and 1, you can't do much with that and 2, that falls on Gettleman I feel like Judge was more of a Mara hire less of a Getty hire. Mara wouldn't stop raving about his interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 As I've probably said before in bits and pieces... DG has made a handful of head scratching moves... - Trading arguably our best WR ever to the Browns leaving DJ without a solid weapon. - Trading for the Jets' leftover for a hefty price and a hefty salary... - Drafting Saquon (don't take me wrong.. I LOVE Saquon both as a player and a person)... but we don't have the OL to make him successful.... The hope his this young team gets better from an experience point... but now I'm wondering what would we do if we get the 1st overall pick? Not too early to ponder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I think you have to look at the overall net result of what Dave Gettleman has done. He's made some good moves but he's also had a number of baffling, dumb moves as well, and I think the overall net result is we're just as shitty as we were as a team in 2017. Hence, he has to go. He's had three years and he hasn't moved the needle at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Beckham was also traded before the Giants drafted Jones, so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 6 hours ago, mastershake said: I think you have to look at the overall net result of what Dave Gettleman has done. He's made some good moves but he's also had a number of baffling, dumb moves as well, and I think the overall net result is we're just as shitty as we were as a team in 2017. Hence, he has to go. He's had three years and he hasn't moved the needle at all. At least we're 3-1 in moral victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 hours ago, mastershake said: I think you have to look at the overall net result of what Dave Gettleman has done. He's made some good moves but he's also had a number of baffling, dumb moves as well, and I think the overall net result is we're just as shitty as we were as a team in 2017. Hence, he has to go. He's had three years and he hasn't moved the needle at all. Dumb moves don't go hand in hand with championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, Nas said: Dumb moves don't go hand in hand with championships. That's my point. He netted out at no improvement since 2017, putting us exactly where we were then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 5:21 PM, Nas said: Dumb moves don't go hand in hand with championships. Nobody is perfect. Accorsi/Reese are getting credit for two Giants championships and we all agree they made some dumb moves while they were General Managers. Making dumb decisions is part of life, how you handle it what makes the difference. Gettleman has dropped players he drafted and signed who have not held up their end of the deal instead of letting the contract play out hoping for a return at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Tempest said: Nobody is perfect. Accorsi/Reese are getting credit for two Giants championships and we all agree they made some dumb moves while they were General Managers. Making dumb decisions is part of life, how you handle it what makes the difference. Gettleman has dropped players he drafted and signed who have not held up their end of the deal instead of letting the contract play out hoping for a return at some point. I get that... some of those dumb moves are just inexcusable... at least for now. On the flip side I heard the Giants D is the 6th best in the NFL so maybe we're on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Nas said: I get that... some of those dumb moves are just inexcusable... at least for now. On the flip side I heard the Giants D is the 6th best in the NFL so maybe we're on to something. Yeah I think Patrick Graham is the guy we have been looking for. If this continues for the season, I'm left believing he is the best Giants defensive coordinator since John Fox. That is just based on this year, I don't know where his ceiling is because he is just getting maximum production from everyone on the field so far. He tells the players to let him think and all they have to do is run the play and let the results fall on him. Judge talks about how Graham's defense improved from their first meeting to the last one last year and how much the defense improved to the point that the Dolphins won the second game. That is really something we have been missing, results early on and improvement and accountability for the guys on the field. Spagnuolo was a fantastic DC for the NY Giants, but I think Graham is at another level. Just getting started if we can keep him long enough to bring the talent we have on the field to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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