Iceman_NYG Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Beason needs to be locked in medium term asap Will Hill is a diamond we found in the coal mine. With the other safety coming back from injury next year....these 2 along with Rolle could be an awesome threesome Everytime Eli throws to Randle for some reason it gets INTed Beatty needs to be strapped to a chair and beaten across the face with a lead pipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 By other safety I mean Stevie Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Did someone say threesome? Anyway, right on all accounts. Really love the way Beason plays out there. I was a bit spectacle about signing him actually, and now I'm glad we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I only got to see both of Washington's scoring drives and all three of the Giants' three-and-outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 That INT was a panic throw by Eli, high and behind Randle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashTalker92 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 That INT was a panic throw by Eli, high and behind Randle. Yup it was no fault of randle. Freaking Eli need to get his timing right. Maybe an upgrade on the O line will build his confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Overall Reuben Randle has played well this season and made a lot of nice catches. He's been a positive this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 not sure if rolle will be on the team next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Rolle, if left to play safety and safety alone, is a huge benefit to this team. He should be here next year, though they may have him restructure/extend to lighten his cap hit. When Rolle is asked to fill in as a 3rd CB is when he struggles a bit. Randel has played very well this season and is certainly a nice safety valve in the upcoming Nicks contract negotiations. I'm kinda thinking that if Nicks isn't locked down before the draft, he's gone. At least that's how I'd handle it. I'd go OL, WR in the first two rounds. If Nicks truly wants to stay, he'll get the contract knocked out by the draft. If he is wavering and wants to test free agency, then by all means...there's the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 not sure if rolle will be on the team next year at the right price, I'd love to have him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Overall Reuben Randle has played well this season and made a lot of nice catches. He's been a positive this year. He looks like a better version of Manningham. He makes a very good 3rd WR but in no way can be he a #1 imho. Rolle, if left to play safety and safety alone, is a huge benefit to this team. He should be here next year, though they may have him restructure/extend to lighten his cap hit. When Rolle is asked to fill in as a 3rd CB is when he struggles a bit. Randel has played very well this season and is certainly a nice safety valve in the upcoming Nicks contract negotiations. I'm kinda thinking that if Nicks isn't locked down before the draft, he's gone. At least that's how I'd handle it. I'd go OL, WR in the first two rounds. If Nicks truly wants to stay, he'll get the contract knocked out by the draft. If he is wavering and wants to test free agency, then by all means...there's the door. Rolle's cap hit is huge... and if we have Will Hill & Stevie Brown I can see where the Giants can part ways with him... unless he agrees to a pay cut. He got schooled by that rookie from Dallas on the final drive which ultimately killed our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 at the right price, I'd love to have him back. same here. hopefully we'll be able to work something out with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hosley played a good game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 He looks like a better version of Manningham. He makes a very good 3rd WR but in no way can be he a #1 imho. Rolle's cap hit is huge... and if we have Will Hill & Stevie Brown I can see where the Giants can part ways with him... unless he agrees to a pay cut. He got schooled by that rookie from Dallas on the final drive which ultimately killed our season. I think Randel would be the #2 with Cruz being the #1...if Cruz is getting doubled now, that tells me he's a #1 WR. I'd be fine going with Randel and Cruz next year, despite the upside to having Nicks. Having all 3 is a luxury that I'm not so sure we can afford. Rolle's cap hit is huge and similar to the WR group, having the 3 we have is a luxury. The difference there is, that we only have 1 of 3 making top safety money whereas with the WRs, we'd have 2 of 3 (assuming Nicks is resigned). Given the cap hit, I think it'd be wise to look to restructuring/extending. I'd say the same for Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 He looks like a better version of Manningham. He makes a very good 3rd WR but in no way can be he a #1 imho. Rolle's cap hit is huge... and if we have Will Hill & Stevie Brown I can see where the Giants can part ways with him... unless he agrees to a pay cut. He got schooled by that rookie from Dallas on the final drive which ultimately killed our season. Agree that Rolle's cap hit will factor into the equation.....but it's unfair to judge him as a corner, which he's been pressed into playing due to injuries. When he can just play safety, he's still a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 He looks like a better version of Manningham. He makes a very good 3rd WR but in no way can be he a #1 imho. Rolle's cap hit is huge... and if we have Will Hill & Stevie Brown I can see where the Giants can part ways with him... unless he agrees to a pay cut. He got schooled by that rookie from Dallas on the final drive which ultimately killed our season. Which rookie from Dallas you talking about? Bryant? And Randle will at least be a solid # 2 receiver, if not with us, then somewhere else. The kid is going to get paid one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Agree that Rolle's cap hit will factor into the equation.....but it's unfair to judge him as a corner, which he's been pressed into playing due to injuries. When he can just play safety, he's still a very good player. The way I see it, if you're making that much money you should be able to do both jobs.. I don't see the positions as entirely different... although CB is the harder part.. .so why are we paying him that much again? I want a team made up of blue-collar guys who come up big when the tough gets going.. not talk show hosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Which rookie from Dallas you talking about? Bryant? And Randle will at least be a solid # 2 receiver, if not with us, then somewhere else. The kid is going to get paid one day. I don't know his name.. but Rolle was schooled on probably the 3rd to last play of that game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The way I see it, if you're making that much money you should be able to do both jobs.. I don't see the positions as entirely different... although CB is the harder part.. .so why are we paying him that much again? I want a team made up of blue-collar guys who come up big when the tough gets going.. not talk show hosts. man Nas, you have high expectations. As a cover corner, he's approaching average... which for a good safety, is pretty damn good. There are only a handful of players in the league as versatile as Rolle. Although I do agree that Rolle probably isn't quite worth his cap number. But he's worth a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 man Nas, you have high expectations. As a cover corner, he's approaching average... which for a good safety, is pretty damn good. There are only a handful of players in the league as versatile as Rolle. Although I do agree that Rolle probably isn't quite worth his cap number. But he's worth a lot. I do accounting all day... I argue for raises for those who work hard and god knows I can't stand those who earn way more than they're worth.. Rolle, imo, is a Nissan getting paid for BMW performance... same with Baas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I do accounting all day... I argue for raises for those who work hard and god knows I can't stand those who earn way more than they're worth.. Rolle, imo, is a Nissan getting paid for BMW performance... same with Baas. I'd say he's a BMW getting paid for Porsche performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I'd say he's a BMW getting paid for Porsche performance. I think you and others may have an inflated opinion of him... has he made the pro bowl recently and I didn't know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think you and others may have an inflated opinion of him... has he made the pro bowl recently and I didn't know? The last time anyone should use the pro-bowl as a caliber of performance was the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think you and others may have an inflated opinion of him... has he made the pro bowl recently and I didn't know? Not so sure the pro bowl is a valid indicator of success anymore... Bottom line, Rolle is valuable in his versatility in the same way that Diehl was on the offensive line for many years. They both have their natural positions at which they are most successful, but filled in at an above average level at other positions when called upon. For that alone, both were rewarded financially with longer term deals. While Diehl's ability has dropped off, Rolle still has another year, maybe 3, left in him in my opinion, but you can see that his flexibility to play CB is waning and his contract should decrease because of it. But having said that, he's not nearly as bad as some think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 rolle can play, he just can' t have a 9.25 mil cap number next year one way or the other. him and stevie playing together all year might've gotten us a few more key possessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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