Allstarjim Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Without Jacobs, this team ran the ball 27 times for 87 yards. That is INCLUDING an 11 yard end around by Hixon. This is what Jacobs means to our team. If anyone doubts Jacobs' value, you just need to look at today. Ward ran for 3.5 ypg on 20 totes, and Bradshaw managed only 9 yards on 4 carries. It's clear to me that Jacobs softens defenses significantly, and Ward and Bradshaw benefits. I am extremely glad that the Giants will do whatever it takes to keep B-Jac on the roster next year, including franchising him. We won today because the line gave Eli time to kill the Cards secondary, and Eli executed masterfully. We did not win by running the ball down their throats. Now, Arizona is 7th in the NFL in stopping the run, but Baltimore was #1 when we played them (3rd now), and look what we did to them! We don't give B-Jac enough props around here! :worshippy: We need you next week, B-Jac! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I agree. Today's game didn't look the same... things weren't flowing as smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 We're pretty well rounded. I mean, if it isn't painfully obvious that the Gmen are going to run the ball....alot....by now, then opposing D's deserve what they get. The Arizona D was prepped and ready to play, Jacobs or not. I'll give you that the run game didn't look the same, but I'm not entirely convinced it was because Jacobs was out as opposed to 'Zona being prepared (and executing well). However, it sure is nice to know that if the run game falters, the passing game can be almost as deadly. All I know is, it's damn good to be a Giants fan right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 We're pretty well rounded. I mean, if it isn't painfully obvious that the Gmen are going to run the ball....alot....by now, then opposing D's deserve what they get. The Arizona D was prepped and ready to play, Jacobs or not. I'll give you that the run game didn't look the same, but I'm not entirely convinced it was because Jacobs was out as opposed to 'Zona being prepared (and executing well). However, it sure is nice to know that if the run game falters, the passing game can be almost as deadly. All I know is, it's damn good to be a Giants fan right now. It sure is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 We're pretty well rounded. I mean, if it isn't painfully obvious that the Gmen are going to run the ball....alot....by now, then opposing D's deserve what they get. The Arizona D was prepped and ready to play, Jacobs or not. I'll give you that the run game didn't look the same, but I'm not entirely convinced it was because Jacobs was out as opposed to 'Zona being prepared (and executing well). However, it sure is nice to know that if the run game falters, the passing game can be almost as deadly. All I know is, it's damn good to be a Giants fan right now. I don't know Rik. Everybody has known we are a run-oriented team anyways, and we've been running for 200 yards on just about everyone, including that Baltimore run defense that was described only in superlatives (until we got done with them). It's not like teams just started game planning to stop the run against us today. We ran for just about a full 100 yards less than our average today. I think it's because Jacobs really does take a psychological and physiological toll on the defense. They get pumped to stop him, can't stop him, and they lose their edge, so to speak. After 2 or 3 quarters of him pounding them into physical and mental submission, Ward and Bradshaw just clean up on those 11 beaten down defenders. I know it's only one game, but I really think that this game is evidence that he really does make that much of a difference. Regardless, it's great that Eli has so much confidence and control of the offense that he can do what he did today. On to Washington! I know Laron Landry is hoping that Jacobs gets another week of rest, :lol:! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I don't know if you are right or wrong; I do know that with those rushing yards we still scored over 30 points and got the win. Getting more rushing yards might have kept the Cards offense off of the field, but the bottom line is we beat them at their own game. Besides, with Jacobs looking probable up until game time, we don't know how prepared Gilbride was for him being out. I'd like to think he was prepared, but I've seen to much to put my complete faith in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ggirl Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think the Cards special teams let them down. IMO. Otherwise, I like the way they mixed it up without Jacobs in. Boss and Hedgecock...Toomer and Smith...all catching some beautiful passing by Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaNJ Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 They did not comit to the running game, and I think Eli was excited to get to air it out a bit. That game plan will not work against the deadskins next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Is this simple: You leave 7 in the box, we run all over you. You bring 8 in the box, we still run all over you and can pass it pretty well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think the Cards special teams let them down. IMO. I think our special teams were pretty poor as well. We didn't exactly stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think our special teams were pretty poor as well. We didn't exactly stop them. Terrell Thomas has been excellent on special teams, not just yesterday but since he made the team, Bradshaw also. But if a team can get those 2 stopped then we are in trouble. By the way, how much does it suck to be that kid who got 3 special teams penalties for the cards yesterday, ouch!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 The only scary thing about that game for me was that from the opening kick off to the last onsides kick attempt.....I didn't feel for one second the Giants were in any danger of losing. Not even remotely. C.Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think our special teams were pretty poor as well. We didn't exactly stop them. Well... we didn't miss a FG or extra point, and Hixon had what.... 180 return yards? We weren't that bad. In fact, I'd say we were downright good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesta Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Well... we didn't miss a FG or extra point, and Hixon had what.... 180 return yards? We weren't that bad. In fact, I'd say we were downright good. Our coverage on kickoffs really sucked. They had well over 200 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 On to Washington! I know Laron Landry is hoping that Jacobs gets another week of rest, :lol:! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Is it just me or did Jacobs look just a frickin' big without his pads? Reminds me of a 'Baby Bull' Tyson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppodlesny Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Without Jacobs, this team ran the ball 27 times for 87 yards. That is INCLUDING an 11 yard end around by Hixon. This is what Jacobs means to our team. If anyone doubts Jacobs' value, you just need to look at today. Ward ran for 3.5 ypg on 20 totes, and Bradshaw managed only 9 yards on 4 carries. It's clear to me that Jacobs softens defenses significantly, and Ward and Bradshaw benefits. I am extremely glad that the Giants will do whatever it takes to keep B-Jac on the roster next year, including franchising him. We won today because the line gave Eli time to kill the Cards secondary, and Eli executed masterfully. We did not win by running the ball down their throats. Now, Arizona is 7th in the NFL in stopping the run, but Baltimore was #1 when we played them (3rd now), and look what we did to them! We don't give B-Jac enough props around here! :worshippy: We need you next week, B-Jac! actually what happened is the Cards were putting 9 in the box...yes 9, and were saying if the Giants were gonna win, Eli had to do it. I was listening to Carl banks this morning and that is what he observed. The Cards did not want to get beat by the run game. Carl also went onto to say this is how good the Giants are....he believes they went 9 in with tight coverage because Plax went out and they didn't feel our receiving game would be a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppodlesny Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Is it just me or did Jacobs look just a frickin' big without his pads? Reminds me of a 'Baby Bull' Tyson. Jacobs' head looks like a freaking bowling bowl....that cranium is huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gspotter Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Is it just a hamstring for b Jake or is it an mcl strain? I read hammy, heard MCL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Is it just me or did Jacobs look just a frickin' big without his pads? Reminds me of a 'Baby Bull' Tyson. He looked huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Our coverage on kickoffs really sucked. They had well over 200 yards. That's really what I'm talking about. Hixon was amazing, but we didn't do very well in the coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 actually what happened is the Cards were putting 9 in the box...yes 9, and were saying if the Giants were gonna win, Eli had to do it. I was listening to Carl banks this morning and that is what he observed. The Cards did not want to get beat by the run game. Carl also went onto to say this is how good the Giants are....he believes they went 9 in with tight coverage because Plax went out and they didn't feel our receiving game would be a threat. All throughout the game the FS would start out in standard coverage....and as the snap count continued you could see him walking up to the line on suspected run plays. Half the time he was out of position to really help with covering the tight end or the fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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