BlueInCanada Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Reports are he's had x-rays and are awaiting results, will get more test done tomorrow. Jones says it feels "similar to the pain in 2021" So needless to say we should just sit him down for the year. Caleb Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 And the Tommy Devito era of greatness begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 At least maybe it opens the window for injury settlement/cap relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Poor guy. Necks are so scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 28 minutes ago, Herc said: Poor guy. Necks are so scary That's what did David Wilson in no? Neck injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 28 minutes ago, Herc said: Poor guy. Necks are so scary Yeah I feel like a pos now. I do feel for him. Me wife has struggled with a neck injury for years. Never really goes away. Of course I wish him a full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 He's basically been the sacrificial lamb while the Giants have gone through multiple rebuilds at this point. I've never been against Jones as a person, he's been a stand up guy, I just don't think he is or was the guy the Giants are going to be hosting a Lombardi with. If this neck injury is multiple weeks or even IR we may have seen the last of Dimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, Herc said: Poor guy. Necks are so scary My life is hell because of it. I don’t think he should continue to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Yeah, if it's the neck/spine he had before, we need to pull the plug for his own benefit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 For 47 million dollars you’d think he’d have a stronger neck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Herc said: For 47 million dollars you’d think he’d have a stronger neck Who do you think this guy is, Chase Blackburn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Anyone know the cap situation if we reach an injury settlement with Jones? I don't wish injury on anyone, especially our own, but if the Giants can get away from Williams, Barkley, and Jones in the next year or two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Welp, this was always the risk with Jones. We knew he was injury prone when we signed him (similarly with Barkley as well). One would think if we just signed a QB to a massive contract, that we'd try to put a capable OL around him, but again...guess we had to have Leonard Williams, Darren Waller, and Barkley instead...cause those guys are really driving success on this team LOL. Honestly injured or not, just roll with Tyrod Taylor the rest of the way. With the current OL we have, we're doing to get Jones killed and injured worse. The season is a botched and lost cause anyway. Why play Jones just to see him running for his life and getting pounded on 90% of drop backs? This can only hurt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, mastershake said: Welp, this was always the risk with Jones. We knew he was injury prone when we signed him (similarly with Barkley as well). One would think if we just signed a QB to a massive contract, that we'd try to put a capable OL around him, but again...guess we had to have Leonard Williams, Darren Waller, and Barkley instead...cause those guys are really driving success on this team LOL. Honestly injured or not, just roll with Tyrod Taylor the rest of the way. With the current OL we have, we're doing to get Jones killed and injured worse. The season is a botched and lost cause anyway. Why play Jones just to see him running for his life and getting pounded on 90% of drop backs? This can only hurt him. It's so ass backwards. You don't throw money at a QB who needs a running game. Then completely ignore the Oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 18 hours ago, Sephiroth said: Who do you think this guy is, Chase Blackburn? OMG a blast from the past... can he still walk now? I am really asking... not trying to be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Schoen didn't ignore the OL. Gettleman ignored the O-Line in 2021 and said we didn't need to. We haven't recovered yet from that. The O-Line is missing their best player and the kid they just drafted to play center who had been playing well. They are also missing a top ten running back. Their last two games played have been without those 3 guys. You'd have more of a point if your said they ignored wide receiver. Everyone was aware at the beginning of this year we still needed another year of free agency and another year of the draft . Nothing has changed. Remember, Schoen had no cap space last year when he took the job and had to get rid of Toney because the fucker wouldn't prepare to play for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 For the record, I like Schoen and Daboll and want both of them to see this through. If that means working though the Jones era, then I am here for it. That said, we are the worst of 32 rosters right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 9 hours ago, gmenroc said: For the record, I like Schoen and Daboll and want both of them to see this through. If that means working though the Jones era, then I am here for it. That said, we are the worst of 32 rosters right now. I just didn't expect such a 180 in terms of field product. Guess that's what happens when you are against contenders instead of scrubs like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, BlueInCanada said: I just didn't expect such a 180 in terms of field product. Guess that's what happens when you are against contenders instead of scrubs like last year. I certainly expected more this year too. We are the scrubs...that is a bitter pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 10 hours ago, boohyah said: Schoen didn't ignore the OL. Gettleman ignored the O-Line in 2021 and said we didn't need to. We haven't recovered yet from that. The O-Line is missing their best player and the kid they just drafted to play center who had been playing well. They are also missing a top ten running back. Their last two games played have been without those 3 guys. You'd have more of a point if your said they ignored wide receiver. Everyone was aware at the beginning of this year we still needed another year of free agency and another year of the draft . Nothing has changed. Remember, Schoen had no cap space last year when he took the job and had to get rid of Toney because the fucker wouldn't prepare to play for us I get it that Schoen has put assets into the OL last year, but it just hasn't worked out, and they were not good on paper coming into the season. The Giants OL is not an Andrew Thomas away from being good, or even average. They came into the season with 4 out of 5 starting spots being questionable, and wishful thinking. Bredeson and Glowinski are bums, Neal and JMS were unproven and we were relying on them to take a leap (as I always say, you can get away with one, maybe two "wishful thinking" guys on the OL IF the other guys on the OL are solid, which they weren't on this team). Sorry, but $11M for Barkely, $4M for Campbell, and $10M for Leonard Williams (appox cap savings before they altered his deal), could have been used on the OL. Minus shuffling the practice squad, Schoen didn't put anything into the OL this offseason....like at all. Also, why the fuck are Peart and Lemieux even on this roster? They're not even backup caliber lineman, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, mastershake said: I get it that Schoen has put assets into the OL last year, but it just hasn't worked out, and they were not good on paper coming into the season. The Giants OL is not an Andrew Thomas away from being good, or even average. They came into the season with 4 out of 5 starting spots being questionable, and wishful thinking. Bredeson and Glowinski are bums, Neal and JMS were unproven and we were relying on them to take a leap (as I always say, you can get away with one, maybe two "wishful thinking" guys on the OL IF the other guys on the OL are solid, which they weren't on this team). Sorry, but $11M for Barkely, $4M for Campbell, and $10M for Leonard Williams (appox cap savings before they altered his deal), could have been used on the OL. Minus shuffling the practice squad, Schoen didn't put anything into the OL this offseason....like at all. Also, why the fuck are Peart and Lemieux even on this roster? They're not even backup caliber lineman, lol. Lemieux is on the roster because the head coach keeps starting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 11 hours ago, boohyah said: Schoen didn't ignore the OL. Gettleman ignored the O-Line in 2021 and said we didn't need to. We haven't recovered yet from that. The O-Line is missing their best player and the kid they just drafted to play center who had been playing well. They are also missing a top ten running back. Their last two games played have been without those 3 guys. You'd have more of a point if your said they ignored wide receiver. Everyone was aware at the beginning of this year we still needed another year of free agency and another year of the draft . Nothing has changed. Remember, Schoen had no cap space last year when he took the job and had to get rid of Toney because the fucker wouldn't prepare to play for us Spot on. And let's not forget that fucking WR we got who didn't feel like playing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Nas said: Spot on. And let's not forget that fucking WR we got who didn't feel like playing... Says the guys who’s never played a down of organized football in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 19 hours ago, TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt said: OMG a blast from the past... can he still walk now? I am really asking... not trying to be funny. Remember he got a neck injury after his rookie season and the doctors told him he might not play again, so he added nine inches of muscle to his neck. I know he was the butt of a lot of jokes with JackStroud fellating him at every opportunity (joemorris had a DnD Online group called the "Cult of Blackburn" lol) but he really was a tough, selfless player. We could use some more Chase Blackburns on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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