McNabb say East runs through Philly

[Virginia Giant]

Eagles' fate dependent on McNabb's health, production

 

By Sal Paolantonio

 

 

ESPN.com

 

Updated: July 23, 2008

 

 

 

LEHIGH, Pa. -- On another stifling summer morning on the south mountain of Lehigh University, here's what Year 10 of the Andy Reid-Donovan McNabb era in Philadelphia looked like:

 

 

Donovan McNabb expects the Eagles to quickly establish themselves as contenders in the NFC.

Reid, standing alone at the 50-yard line, stone silent, watched the quarterback he drafted in 1999 throw to another fresh-faced crop of wide receivers. And McNabb dropped back five steps and fired a laser -- definitely no sign of any lingering tendinitis in his throwing shoulder -- across the middle to rookie second-round pick DeSean Jackson.

 

 

Diminutive Jackson was unprepared for McNabb's velocity, and the ball caromed off the rookie's shoulder pads. McNabb looked away, less than pleased. Reid never moved a muscle.

 

 

 

Ten years Reid and McNabb have been together. It is the longest current tenure of a coach and quarterback without winning a Super Bowl -- 112 starts without a title. Indeed, only Marv Levy and Jim Kelly (151 starts) in Buffalo, and Tom Coughlin and Mark Brunell (117) in Jacksonville started more games together without claiming the Lombardi trophy.

 

 

 

Still, on Tuesday morning, McNabb was conceding nothing -- not a hint of remorse or perspective about the frustration that has transpired, not a scintilla of fear about what is expected in 2008. Whether he is at a crossroads or, more likely, the end of the road in Philadelphia, McNabb believes the Eagles are the team to beat in the NFC this year.

 

 

 

 

"A lot of people have picked us to win the NFC, and rightfully so," said McNabb, suggesting all business in a plain white T-shirt and ball cap. "It's not that hard to see the type of team we have. You don't win NFC championships or the NFC on paper. You put it out on the field. Our team hasn't changed that much where we can't win the NFC again."

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people have picked us to win the NFC, and rightfully so.

--Donovan McNabb

 

With a straightforward matter-of-factness, McNabb insisted that the start of this season will be different from 2007, when he was coming back from knee surgery. There will be no excuses, he said, and the results will be different. In fact, he almost sounded as though he was calling out his teammates -- and putting division rivals on notice that the NFC East title will go through Philadelphia again.

 

 

 

"We beat the Cowboys last year, and we should have beaten them in the first game," said McNabb, apparently not afraid to provide a little bulletin board material for the folks training in Oxnard, Calif. "The Redskins, we should have beaten them the first time. The Giants, we should have beaten them both times. It's not just teams in our division; it's the NFC, period. I feel like we can compete with all of them. If you ask those teams, they'll tell you the same, that we have the type of team you have to look out for.

 

 

 

"Again, the ball starts with me. Then you go throughout the whole offense, everybody knows who No. 36 [running back Brian Westbrook] is. Just like on defense, everybody knows who 20 [safety Brian Dawkins] is. We have the players. We just have to put it together."

 

 

 

Putting it together starts with keeping everybody in one piece. And that starts with No. 5.

 

 

 

McNabb, who is 31 and has missed 15 starts in the past three seasons because of various injuries (a sports hernia, a torn knee ligament and an ankle sprain), sat out about a half-dozen minicamp sessions in May and June because of stiffness and tendinitis in his throwing (right) shoulder. Eagles trainer Rick Burkholder put McNabb on an intense regimen of stretching and rest, and Reid put him on a pitch count, which will continue throughout this summer.

 

 

 

 

Moreover, Reid has inaugurated an "Over 30 Club." Any player over the age of 30 gets a morning off after two straight days of training camp, which -- despite the league's 80-man roster limit -- is a week longer in Lehigh this year.

 

 

The Eagles have gone to a youth movement in many areas, particularly the front seven on defense. But this team's core is aging quickly, and the window of its opportunity to win a championship is nearly closed. In addition to McNabb on offense, both his tackles are most likely in their last seasons in Philadelphia: Jon Runyan (34) and Tra Thomas (33). On defense, former All-Pro safety Brian Dawkins, who suffered through various ailments last year in camp and missed six games last season, will be 35 in October.

 

 

 

Given all that, McNabb must start the year healthy -- and productive. It's not enough anymore for him just to be on the field. In the 33 regular-season starts he has made since his appearance in Super Bowl XXXIX, McNabb is just one game above .500 (17-16).

 

 

 

The Eagles (8-8) finished last in the NFC East in 2007 despite having allowed the fewest points in the division. So, you have to point the finger at the team's offense. It finished sixth in the league in total yards. But that's deceptive because Philadelphia finished 17th in total points. Why? The Eagles' red zone production was 24th in the league.

 

 

 

McNabb finished strong, winning the final three games with five touchdown passes, just one interception and a 65 percent completion rate.

 

 

 

But, still wearing a knee brace and trying to find his footing and rhythm, McNabb stumbled through September and October last year, and that can't happen this fall. And he knows it.

 

 

 

"I didn't prepare for the type of start we had last year," McNabb said. "I thought we would come out of the gate a little bit better than we did. You focus on yourself and not necessarily everybody. For myself, I expected to come out a lot better than I did. That was the frustrating part about it, because you just don't have all of your faculties -- if it was the mobility or if it was just the sudden movement to be able to react a little bit quicker. Fortunately, I've had a great offseason and look forward to having a way better start than last year. As a team, I just kind of thought that we were trying to find our niche in this offense together. I thought we began to get that towards the middle of the year on, and it got better and better. Now, we need to start that way."

 

 

 

In the red zone, it will help to have tight end L.J. Smith, who is coming off sports hernia surgery, healthy for a full 16-game schedule. Running back Lorenzo Booker, acquired from the Dolphins in the spring, is expected to provide another option out of the backfield.

 

 

 

But keeping the No. 1 option happy will be tricky. Westbrook, who led the league in yards from scrimmage last season, wants a new deal. The Eagles want to reward him. But negotiations have been slow, and frustrating, and -- given the Eagles' history of nasty contract disputes with Terrell Owens, Jeremiah Trotter, Duce Staley and others -- could easily poison the Reid-McNabb 10th anniversary celebration.

 

 

 

McNabb sidestepped discussing Westbrook's dispute with the Eagles' front office.

 

 

 

"That's not my business," he said. "Besides … who knows if it will be me next year?"

 

 

 

 

Sal Paolantonio covers the NFL for ESPN.

 

 

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[BIGBLUE01]

Fuck yourself McNutts, ya cocky bastard.

[TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt]

So with Osi busting your ass every time you took a snap to the tune of six sacks just for him....you were supposed to win that game. The second I might give to him if you had a healthy Westbrook...but that first one well McNabb needs to take the corn cob out of his ass and put it in his mouth and shut the fuck up.

[randoff]

Eagles have nothing but Westbrook. Their O line is weak....no recieving threat and McNabb is fragile. And Westbrook (although he is DAMN good) wants to be paid Ladanian money. I call BS! It goes like this: Ladanian BEST all around back, then MAYBE Westbrook is #2, a DISTANT #2.

[Nas]

It's good he has confidence and seems motiviated but it's bad karma to just say should've should've should've... how many sacks did Osi have that day? I mean, I like McNabb and all but not having a sense of humility is disturbing.

 

I hope no Giant make any prediction.. god I hate those. Just keep your mouth shut and let your play do the talking.. then AFTER you win, say "We Stomped you out"

[TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt]

I think Osi had six by himself....and another 2 or 3 by other Giants.

[Virginia Giant]

I think Osi had six by himself....and another 2 or 3 by other Giants.

Total of 12 sacks by Giants that game, 6 by Osi/

[BIGBLUE01]

Total of 12 sacks by Giants that game, 6 by Osi/

 

As a matter of fact, someone from the Giants DLine is sacking McNabb as we speak.

[TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt]

Total of 12 sacks by Giants that game, 6 by Osi/

 

Thanks VG....they were one short of the record right. Both for the team and for an individual?

[Virginia Giant]

Thanks VG....they were one short of the record right. Both for the team and for an individual?

I believe you're right....Definately individual, Derrick Thomas had 7 I know. I remember looking it up on the computer right after the game for the team record, not really sure.

[Lughead]

was that a Mcbadd interview cause all I heard was

[TheShocker]

they at leas said they set a giants team record, as did osi. iwasat the game

[NeMesiS]

I have to be honest...The eagles are a damn good team. If it wasn't for all the injuries they had last year. They probably would have made it to the playoffs. The NFC East is with out a doubt the hardest division in football.

[Nas]

I have to be honest...The eagles are a damn good team. If it wasn't for all the injuries they had last year. They probably would have made it to the playoffs. The NFC East is with out a doubt the hardest division in football.

 

You could say that about 80% of the teams in the in NFL. Even though he comes off confident, he actually sounds like a whiner. What the fuck were all those "should'ves" those were way too many.

[TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt]

they at leas said they set a giants team record, as did osi. iwasat the game

 

One for the ages.

[TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt]

You could say that about 80% of the teams in the in NFL. Even though he comes off confident, he actually sounds like a whiner. What the fuck were all those "should'ves" those were way too many.

 

Yeah if the dog didn't have to shit....he would've caught the rabbit.

[Nas]

Yeah if the dog didn't have to shit....he would've caught the rabbit.

 

This reminds of Bill Parcells when he was coaching the Jets. The media was saying well they only lost most of their games by less than 3 points (they really sucked that season)... Parcells basically said that's how games in the NFL are decided... hardly any blow outs anyway. So he wasn't buying into that aww shucks we came so close bullshit.

[Virginia Giant]

I have to be honest...The eagles are a damn good team. If it wasn't for all the injuries they had last year. They probably would have made it to the playoffs. The NFC East is with out a doubt the hardest division in football.

Thats fine, but don't look back and say you should have beat teams you didn't beat, especially when 2 of the games were against the eventual champs and in 1 of them you hit the ground more times that receivers.

[Nas]

Thats fine, but don't look back and say you should have beat teams you didn't beat, especially when 2 of the games were against the eventual champs and in 1 of them you hit the ground more times that receivers.

 

Well, that just makes our DL salivate to pummel him....

[Sephiroth]

Yeah, man! The EAGLES are the team to beat! After all, they have Westbrook and uh... uhm... Mc Nabb for at least part of the year, and uh... wait... um... I'm sure a lotta other really awesome players.

 

Eagles in the Super Bowl!

[boohyah]

And McNabb dropped back five steps and fired a laser -- definitely no sign of any lingering tendinitis in his throwing shoulder -- across the middle to rookie second-round pick DeSean Jackson.

 

 

Diminutive Jackson was unprepared for McNabb's velocity, and the ball caromed off the rookie's shoulder pads. McNabb looked away, less than pleased. Reid never moved a muscle.

 

What's wrong with this sentence?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Against the Giants, McNabb won't even get the pass off to the receiver.

 

[Lubeck]

You gotta be fucking kidding me. He contradicts himself so many times. Some examples:

 

"A lot of people have picked us to win the NFC, and rightfully so," said McNabb, suggesting all business in a plain white T-shirt and ball cap. "It's not that hard to see the type of team we have. You don't win NFC championships or the NFC on paper.

 

Who has you picked to win the NFC? Because whoever it is obviously didn't get their check from Jerry Jones...

 

And aren't those people you claim are picking you to win picking you ON PAPER?

 

There will be no excuses, he said, and the results will be different.

 

Good message there. Let the results of the game speak for themselves.

"We beat the Cowboys last year, and we should have beaten them in the first game," said McNabb, apparently not afraid to provide a little bulletin board material for the folks training in Oxnard, Calif. "The Redskins, we should have beaten them the first time. The Giants, we should have beaten them both times.

 

Wait you just said McNabb that there will be no excuses....how do you follow that up with "We should have beat them"?

"I didn't prepare for the type of start we had last year," McNabb said.

 

More excuses.

 

 

[Lughead]

And McNabb dropped back five steps and fired a laser -- definitely no sign of any lingering tendinitis in his throwing shoulder -- across the middle to rookie second-round pick DeSean Jackson.

 

 

Diminutive Jackson was unprepared for McNabb's velocity, and the ball caromed off the rookie's shoulder pads. McNabb looked away, less than pleased. Reid never moved a muscle.

 

What's wrong with this sentence?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Against the Giants, McNabb won't even get the pass off to the receiver.

 

 

McNabb dropped back five steps and fired a laser .......... No Austin Power quotes around "LASER"

 

McNabb's velocity ................. these two words don't belong in the same sentence unless it's explaining the speed ofof his projectile vomite

 

Reid never moved a muscle. ...........they left out "has" ....never moved a muscle

[CrazedDogs]

I have to be honest...The eagles are a damn good team. If it wasn't for all the injuries they had last year. They probably would have made it to the playoffs. The NFC East is with out a doubt the hardest division in football.

 

...4 top ten defenses last year. God I love the NFC East.

[Lubeck]

...4 top ten defenses last year. God I love the NFC East.

 

3 out of the 4 make the playoffs as well. And even the lowly Eagles finished 8-8.