CrazedDogs

just to play devils advocate, the pass rush was getting home against Minnesota, but Freeman was getting the ball out of there in time, just not on target. it may be a different story if/when JPP gets back in game shape. Which should be.... NOW.

yeah, but the TD return was bullshit. He only got there thanks to two blocks in the back and the most ticky tacky 'horsecollar' tackle penalty anyone will ever see.

haha, I love watching him run, but he put it on the ground a lot. Just looked it up... way more fumbles than I would have guessed. Even had a 10 fumble season.

Yes, we're all terrified of Matt Barkley.

he was out of football before I was old enough to see him play in real time, but I grew up watching his highlight reels. Story I remember hearing about Campbell is that his conditioning was notoriously poor... the guy couldn't run a mile without a breather. And look at how he carries the ball... Coughlin wouldn't let that guy on the field.

They could have had me at QB last night, I wouldn't have done any worse than Freeman. $10 million, thats fucking absurd.

LOL!

word on the street is that Frazier wanted nothing to do with putting Freeman in that game, let alone leaving him in there. That decision came from upstairs.

thats how Randle should be used... hell with that option route stuff, just give him a simple route and let him go beat somebody.

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It was a good article. I want it forwarded to the Giants front office.

allstarjim, I have a bigger problem with FSF not permitting 'promotion' of another website... its not promotion, its citation, which is a lynchpin of serious journalism. I think that is something they will want to reconsider.

10-0, baby!!!!

When it comes to Cox, all we're gonna get is just the tip.

all true, I'm just saying I don't think allstarjim meant any harm.

Yeah, but I can understand why.... anonymous person on a message board may not want to be quoted publicly.

Who, Hakeem Hicks?

i.e., "The Michael Irvin". No worries. Nicks is great at that move too.

Season?!?... I think that poor kid is in denial ... that is what ended Cooper Manning's football career.

Yeah, I didn't think that was such a big deal. He gave himself up, thats the rule. Fuck Mayock, he doesn't know as much as he thinks. Now, there was the Plaxico Burress play from way back when... where he was running, fell down untouched, got up, then spiked the ball... that was a fumble. Randle was on the ground.

are we sure the Bears didn't challenge that play? They never showed Trestman throwing the flag, but that doesn't mean he didn't throw it. I wondered the same thing though.

Thats a good breakdown of the play, thanks prez. More I think about it, the more I think the Giants just need to take their offense back to scratch. That was one of their bread and butter route combinations, and Jennings was all over it.

On the first pick I didn't know what happened. On the second they were playing cover 3, Randle was NOT supposed to go deep, he was supposed to drive on Jennings then come back to the QB. If he runs the right route, Jennings is not standing there. (edit: then again, Jennings may have stood his ground if he knew what was coming. But that doesn't make Randle's route any more wrong.) I mean, there's a reason why Randle was getting his ass ripped up on the sidelines after that play. Don't tell me that the coaches don't even know which route he was supposed to run.

Eli stays healthy, he's not that old yet, and he's proven that he can play at an elite level. I'm not sure that hitting reset on the QB position is the way to go. The INT off the fingers of Myers last night was a few inches off. Okay, that happens. Just usually not to Eli at that time of the game. The other picks seemed to me to more a function of scheme, i.e., not being on the same page as the the receiver. I think we've got a few things here working against Eli's stat line (and he was never a stats guy to begin with). 1) It looks to me like the book is out on Gilbride's playbook. I suspect that defenses are baiting receivers into seeing things differently from the quarterback; defenses may be manufacturing miscommunications through scheme. Consider that on the pick 6 last night, even I - a casual fan - knew that Randle should have broken his route off against that defense. Instead he took the deep option, as if the Bears were playing single high coverage. Things like that seem to happen a lot this season - did Randle just completely blow it, or did the defense know his route combo as well as he did? 2) Practice time (or the lack thereof). The Giants offensive scheme is predicated on the receivers making the same read as the QB. I think with less repetitions to get synced up with your teammates you have to go with a simplified scheme, especially early in the season. It seems to me the Giants are still running the same playbook as ever. I haven't missed a snap in years... I'm starting to recognize all these plays.

Its hard to believe he's the same player that carried the team in 2011.