CrazedDogs

….I’m pretty light on prospect knowledge this year though. Of the handful of guys I’ve watched, my pick for surprise top prospect bust is….. Caleb Williams. I think he’s going to be more Jameis Winston than Patrick Mahomes.

I look at it like this…. McCarthy is a better prospect than Jones, who we also took at 6. So, ok, I guess? trade up for him? Thursday is going to turn into a bender.

Holdout, lol. We went 6-11 with him, we can go 6-11 without him.

it's just voluntary workouts, is this really a 'hold out'?

It’s the highlight throws that get some folks fired up for Maye. His best throws are the best in this class…. supposedly. He had some ridiculous misfires in real games too, so I’m uneasy about the guy. Of course, I thought Josh Allen was Jamarcus Russell with better conditioning, so what do I know.

but what if you have hips that just won't quit?

LOL! did you catch Tomlinson claiming that their OC threw a playoff game so he could go interview for a head coach job? As time goes by, I understand more and more that Eli made the right call for himself.

I have next to no idea what it actually is. I don't get it. I have no clue how this is supposed to work.

But that's exactly what I'm referring to. Isn't that a penalty now, if you tackle as illustrated above, and use your weight on the ball carrier's legs?

heh, yeah, make that 21 years, inclusive of 2004. Can't believe its been that long.

I count five times in the last 20 years.

any interest we once had in fostering went out the window after talking to some folks who already did it. What a nightmare, for the kids, and for people who try to help too. The one that put me over the top on it was when there was a violent kid placed in their home, hurting their other children, and the system was like 'ha! tough shit, now you're stuck with the little psycho! we hope, but don't really care, that your biological kids survive the experience!'

That depends on the QB, but QBs go high because they’re so rare.

Same for Odunze. There are some stories about him doing shit like counting rotations on the ball before he catches it that bring to mind one of our old favorites, Hakeem Nicks. Then the guy put up some pro day numbers that bring to mind Julio Jones. And I'm not so sure I don't like Nabors better than either of them.

Me too. I think in most drafts it’s a sure fire bet that either would be off the board by 6.

I'm glad he's back, I think he'll be an interesting fit in Bowen's defense. I'm not sure what to expect.

for sure. that's why I don't care much about sack totals. If we're going to evaluate based on stats, then show me pressure rates, win rates, sacks+pressures+TFL/snap, things like that. Scheme matters a ton too, maybe a guy just wasn't being asked to do what he does best. Not sure either is a good argument for Burns though. Or maybe it is, I can't tell you the first thing about the Panthers defense in recent seasons.

no, there's an equal, if not slightly greater chance that more opportunities might lower the prwr, or any other rate-based stat. That's why there's typically a minimum snap count (or whatever the denominator is) to be considered a leader in any rate-based stat.

chances don't matter for rate-based stats, like PRWR.

I should have remembered that, I was thinking the '83 draft was five QBs ---- Elway, Marino, Kelly, Blackledge, and (LOL @ Jets) O'Brien. Who did I forget? ----- aha, Eason.

I going with hell no.

Seems like the QBs always get inflated during draft month. Six QBs in the mix for the 1st round? Has that ever actually happened before?

Michigan obviously runs a pro-style offense. It's more of a 'pro-style' offense than some pro teams run, lol..... including Daboll's or Shurmur's Giants. McCarthy played under center, he has experience turning his back to the D and running legit play action. I don't know how their passing concepts stack up compared to a true NFL offense, but I can recognize that they weren't running half-field reads or one read and pull it down play design, like we've been suffering through with Jones.

Well, I don't know, he's a great athlete, but hitting a ball is a very different skill from banging skulls with Aaron Donald. Does Jason Kelce have skills like that? Maybe, that might be what makes him a hall of fame level football player. Going way back, a good example is Alex Karras. He was supposedly a hell of a baseball player, but had poor vision, couldn't hit breaking pitches. But a football lineman only needs to see color.

heh, well, I would too, but the thing is, pretty much all the guys in Basketball, Baseball, Tennis, or Soccer, are either more athletically gifted than the NFL guys, or they had the resources to spend countless hours developing a particular skill, or both. The NFL is the only path to being a pro athlete for a lot of guys, whether that's due to limitations in their hand-eye coordination talent, or just whether they had the opportunity to have, for ex., golf lessons as a kid. But anyone who is sufficiently large, strong, or fast, can get a cup of coffee in the NFL.