CrazedDogs Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Thought this was an interesting read: https://247sports.com/nfl/new-york-giants/LongFormArticle/New-York-Giants-game-tape-film-room-120995376/#120995376_10 The TLDR version: new offense = much more multiple, and plays to strengths of players. Also brought me back to my 2017 wonderment at McAdoo's seeming refusal to use backs and TEs as pass protectors, and that after losing essentially an entire roster's worth of WRs that he stuck with 3 WR sets. From mid to late season on, the Giants were stronger and deeper at TE, any armchair QB could see that they should have been in a 2 TE base offense. And Ellison is a damn decent player, its crazy how much we had some journeyman WRs on the field instead of that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Yeah we were at 93 or 96% out of 11 personnel under him. Im all for using that a lot but that was insane, especially with a bad offensive line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Imagine Ben Mcadoo being a good coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 One other thing pointed out in this article is that not only were they in 11 far too much given the talent, but the formations tended to be repetitive. Just same old base formation, play after play. As I look back, I can't help but wonder how McAdoo's O was successful at all. At first, he seemed to be a marked improvement on Gilbride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I think if Geno would have gotten a few more reps with the 1s all of this shit would have worked itself out and we'd all be basking in the glow of another unprecedented back door Wild Card run to the Gmen's 5th Super Bowl W. C. Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Looking back I would say that McAdoo brought some new ideas and plays to the Coughlin offense, they were improvements overall. Problems with McAdoo began soon after he was elevated to head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Looking back I would say that McAdoo brought some new ideas and plays to the Coughlin offense, they were improvements overall. Problems with McAdoo began soon after he was elevated to head coach. Any time you bring someone new, thats bound to happen most of the time.... dude didnt have much after the initial pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 One other thing pointed out in this article is that not only were they in 11 far too much given the talent, but the formations tended to be repetitive. Just same old base formation, play after play. As I look back, I can't help but wonder how McAdoo's O was successful at all. At first, he seemed to be a marked improvement on Gilbride. When you look at Coughlins last season and McAddos first the offense was heads and shoulders better under Coughlin, the problem was the defense was swiss cheese that year and lost games in the final minute, with the addition of poor clock management out of Coughlin. MacAttack had a new defense full of free agent additions like Jenkins, Vernon and Snacks who made the defense more than capable of closing out a game in the final minutes which was seen when they went from bottom of the NFL in defense to top 10. MacAttack was never a good HC or even a good OC, he made the playoffs out of sheer luck and the fact the NFC East was a trash pile that year. I was his biggest hater the moment he stepped on this team and I still hate the fucking guy with a passion, honestly hope he never coaches again in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Any time you bring someone new, thats bound to happen most of the time.... dude didnt have much after the initial pop. Unfortunately and now we are here with a new GM and a team heading in a new direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaNJ Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 The tell tale is he does not have a job this year... not even as a position coach or as a college coach... just unemployed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Unfortunately and now we are here with a new GM and a team heading in a new direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 The tell tale is he does not have a job this year... not even as a position coach or as a college coach... just unemployed I believe he's still making $$$ from the Giants since he had one year left on his contract, he has no reason to work this year, or he simply cant cause the Giants still have the rights to him. At the same time, I think you're right even if he could coach or wanted to he would be looking at a positional coach at most on some team. Maybe he can go stock Rodgers minifridge in Green Bay again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I think if he takes an nfl job the giants owe him his 2018 contract salary minus whatever he makes in the new job. Anyway Id probably take a year off and get paid to do nothing too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Credit McAdoo foe gwtting ball out quicker and increasing Eli completion percentage..and focusing on it. Especially given the shit line. Crucify him for not having the ability to adjust to anyrhing at all when receivers fwll to injury and his refusal to adjust personnel. I didn't have a problem giving McAdoo a shot...but I didn't have a problem with them pullingthe plug whenthey did either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Credit McAdoo foe gwtting ball out quicker and increasing Eli completion percentage..and focusing on it. Especially given the shit line. Crucify him for not having the ability to adjust to anyrhing at all when receivers fwll to injury and his refusal to adjust personnel. I didn't have a problem giving McAdoo a shot...but I didn't have a problem with them pullingthe plug whenthey did either Shurmur is talking a big game about Eli topping 70% completion this year. He seems to think its a real possibility. As free as everybody was running against the Jets, wouldn't surprise me a bit. But wouldn't that be damning of McAdoo's offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 You mean we finally have an offense where every other play won't be a two yard in/out route and/or shotgun draw to the RB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Shurmur is talking a big game about Eli topping 70% completion this year. He seems to think its a real possibility. As free as everybody was running against the Jets, wouldn't surprise me a bit. But wouldn't that be damning of McAdoo's offense. I think one of the big reason why Shurmur was hired, he was probably one of the few candidates fine with the idea of getting the most out of Eli the next couple of seasons before looking to the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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