osi724dasack Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 say we get Dansby, Gonzalez say we get Plax back we would have 4 all pro players added to our roster 2 on d and 2 on O Dansby and Osi Plax and Gonzo plus 4 first day picks (2offense, 2defense) that would be sex rite there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 not to mention great depth at TE, LB, WR, AND DE (IF KIWI STAYS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Why would Kiwi be leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 say we get Dansby, Gonzalez say we get Plax back we would have 4 all pro players added to our roster 2 on d and 2 on O Dansby and Osi Plax and Gonzo plus 4 first day picks (2offense, 2defense) that would be sex rite there Plax isn't an all pro Osi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Plax isn't an all pro Osi. I think he means that ALL of him, legs, arms....everything, is in the pro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 We don't need Gonzales. Waste of cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 We don't need Gonzales. Waste of cap space. Thats what I say about Osi's brain when he wears a hat. Im just kidding....geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 We don't need Gonzales. Waste of cap space. Yep. He's a good player, but Boss has done well and Gonzalez won't upgrade us enough to make up for the cap hit we would take by acquiring him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Yep. He's a good player, but Boss has done well and Gonzalez won't upgrade us enough to make up for the cap hit we would take by acquiring him. Would he come by trade? If so, we'd only have to absorb his salary; the bonuses already paid by the Chiefs that are usually pro-rated over the life of the contract are accelerated to the Chief's '09 cap when the player is traded away (the team trading the player away takes the cap hit). If Gonzo's contract was heavy on the signing bonus he might not be that expensive at all. Once again, this is another player could be useful depending entirely on what he costs. How expensive could he be, the guy is pushing 35. I'd try to get him on the cheap, low ball him with the opportunity to win a championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Would he come by trade? If so, we'd only have to absorb his salary; the bonuses already paid by the Chiefs that are usually pro-rated over the life of the contract are accelerated to the Chief's '09 cap when the player is traded away (the team trading the player away takes the cap hit). If Gonzo's contract was heavy on the signing bonus he might not be that expensive at all. Once again, this is another player could be useful depending entirely on what he costs. How expensive could he be, the guy is pushing 35. I'd try to get him on the cheap, low ball him with the opportunity to win a championship. We'd still be acquiring his salary that would affect our cap, right? And based on that criterion he is the highest paid TE in the NFL, at over $4 million per season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppodlesny Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 say we get Dansby, Gonzalez say we get Plax back we would have 4 all pro players added to our roster 2 on d and 2 on O Dansby and Osi Plax and Gonzo plus 4 first day picks (2offense, 2defense) that would be sex rite there no that would put us about 30 million over the salary cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 There's only one player I want the Giants to sign.... Albert Hanyesworth. Good luck double teaming Tuck, Robbins, Osi and Albert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Can someone please explain to me why Kiwi wouldn't be back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 There's only one player I want the Giants to sign.... Albert Hanyesworth. Good luck double teaming Tuck, Robbins, Osi and Albert. If this was the uncapped year and the Giants weren't tight wads then . Albert is going to get paid big in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Can someone please explain to me why Kiwi wouldn't be back? Dunno. He's not a free agent until 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 There's only one player I want the Giants to sign.... Albert Hanyesworth. Good luck double teaming Tuck, Robbins, Osi and Albert. Thats a hell of a DT, but its not one of our pressing needs. Cofield does fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Thats what I say about Osi's brain when he wears a hat. . zing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 zing! lol, he's an easy target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYG Hampton 27 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Can someone please explain to me why Kiwi wouldn't be back? I think he meant back at DE, instead of at LB. Or he's retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 no that would put us about 30 million over the salary cap No, it definitely wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppodlesny Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 No, it definitely wouldn't. Yes, it definitely would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Yes, it definitely would Plax and Osi are currently under contract and last time I checked we have 11 million or so in cap room. Signing one old TE and one stud linebacker definitely fits within 11 million cap space(which is before contracts are restructured anyway). Point is, we'd be nowhere near being over 30 million over the cap. You've never seen the Cowboys and Redskins be 5 miillion under and then sign 7 star quality players in one offseason? They manage to do it every year and avoid salary cap hell. It's all about structuring the bonuses and letting players go when they are no longer earning their potential salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Plax and Osi are currently under contract and last time I checked we have 11 million or so in cap room. Signing one old TE and one stud linebacker definitely fits within 11 million cap space(which is before contracts are restructured anyway). Point is, we'd be nowhere near being over 30 million over the cap. You've never seen the Cowboys and Redskins be 5 miillion under and then sign 7 star quality players in one offseason? They manage to do it every year and avoid salary cap hell. It's all about structuring the bonuses and letting players go when they are no longer earning their potential salary. You are not signing Gonzalez you are getting his contract he already has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 You are not signing Gonzalez you are getting his contract he already has. I meant signing as in him moving from there to here...but I would have to assume that if Gonzalez' contract is heavy towards the cap this season, they'd restructure his contract as soon as he walked through the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 We also have to sign our draft picks and any other free agents we might be looking into and re-sign Eli. I don't think the way to structure a team under the cap is to invest in the priciest TE. I think we should focus on our areas of need, which are WR and linebacker, and go for depth from there, because we have a lot of players whose contracts are up after next season. Players slated to be free agents after 2009 season: Kevin Boothe Chase Blackburn Danny Clark Jeremy Clark Reuben Droughns Jeff Feagles Derek Hagan (he is under contract for 2009) Travonti Johnson Sam Madison Eli Manning Michael Matthews Edmond Miles Martrez Milner Sinorice Moss :clap: Fred Robbins Steve Smith Guy Whimper Gerris Wilkinson I know several of those players are just spare parts that might not even make the team this coming season, but we do need to worry about re-signing Eli, replacing Fred Robbins, decide what to do with Steve Smith, worry about guard, tackle and linebacker depth, and see what Feagles wants to do. So from a draft perspective I think I am going to try and find me a replacement for Robbins, a WR, a mid-round LBer and corner, a tackle, and a guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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