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Blake Martinez to the Giants

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3 years. 30 million.

We have to be going offensive tackle now in the first. I still want to see safety and center addressed in fa.

 

Fine with this. Martinez is solid and suits what we are looking to do.

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Not Littleton but Martinez is a great consolation. Dude is in on every play.  Nice contract too 

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Well he's a starter, not great, but a starter.

I guess after they ate up all that crap space with Williams, Littleton or any impact LB was out of the mix.

Guy is a tackling machine though, won't get much out of him coverage wise.

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Also Graham coached the guy in Green Bay so there's a connection there as well.

At least we got a true MLB now.

For a reasonable price too.

If Connelly comes back and they draft Simmons suddenly the LB core is looking pretty solid.

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Guys like Martinez are tone setters. We don't have that. As for coverage, let's worry about our corners covering first before we start picking out flaws on guys whose primary job isn't that. Bradberry is a good start. 

 

Word now is Toilolo the tight end out of sf. Blocking tight end. Looks like the idea is run the ball more.

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1 minute ago, boohyah said:

Guys like Martinez are tone setters. We don't have that. As for coverage, let's worry about our corners covering first before we start picking out flaws on guys whose primary job isn't that. Bradberry is a good start. 

 

Word now is Toilolo the tight end out of sf. Blocking tight end. Looks like the idea is run the ball more.

Oh I'm not saying it's a bad thing, we don't have starting LBs after Ogletree was cut.

He just wasn't used as a three down LB in GB he was off the field on passing downs.

Let's hope Graham can use him where his strengths are is what I'm getting at.

 

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50 minutes ago, mastershake said:

Alex Ogeltree 2.0, but he's white.

Yeah I’m not impressed with any of these signings. 

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I think he’s Hispanic 

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Littleton got a 3 year 36 million dollar deal.

I'm wondering why Getty didn't throw that extra few million at Littleton.

 

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1 minute ago, Pdouble said:

 

 

They both suck then
 

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In 2018, Blake Matinez surrendered a 73.8% completion percentage on the 61 targets in his coverage (45 completions). The opposition gained 410 yards on those 45 completions and scored 5 touchdowns. Martinez allowed a 118.9 passer rating when targeted in 2018.

2019 was an even worse performance by Martinez in pass coverage. His completion percentage allowed rose to 83.8%, allowing opponents to complete 62 passes on 74 targets for 570 yards and 2 touchdowns. This is definitely a major red flag for the New York Giants after signing Blake Martinez during the 2020 free agency period.

 

 

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Littleton

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Sam Monson and Steve Palazzolo, Pro Football Focus- (FA No. 16) "Littleton has quietly become one of the best coverage linebackers in the league, capable of running the seam with tight ends and closing quickly on running backs underneath. He has 18 pass breakups and six interceptions over the last two seasons, and he's posted a 90.6 coverage grade that ranks third-best in the league.

 

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Dont get me wrong, Martinez fills a need at LB, since we simply don't have any on the team.

I'm just wondering why we didn't throw more at Littleton.

Maybe he didnt want to play for the GIants, maybe Graham thinks Martinez will fit the scheme better.

I just feel Littleton is the better LB and athlete this team needs right now.

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Pretty good write up by a Green Bay sports writer

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Blake Martinez (98.4)

A myriad of factors influences the overall performance of a defense. In two seasons under Mike Pettine, the Packers have ranked 18th in yards twice and 22nd followed by 23rd against the run. Players have come and gone, but Blake Martinez (selection No. 131 behind Goodson and Morrison in that fourth round of 2016) has played more snaps (2,189 of a possible 2,223) than anyone else. Now the Packers seem poised to let Martinez walk as an unrestricted free agent, and therefore force themselves to get better through the draft or, possibly, free agency. Martinez will sign for a hefty salary somewhere else. Some teams value and respect his durable, productive performance as a 3 ½-year starter with 595 tackles, including 223 this season. He’s an achiever. He has wrung every ounce out of his ability. With his thick, indestructible build, Martinez was always there in the middle of every defensive set. He wore the electronic helmet. He communicated the call from Pettine. Martinez wasn’t always accountable for his many mistakes. He blew his share of run fits and coverages. Many of his tackles were downfield. He wasn’t nimble or speedy enough to run through successfully, his speed to the sideline was marginal and he rarely exhibited the violent hand usage or strength to shed an interior lineman and stop a ballcarrier dead in his tracks. He made just 3 ½ tackles for a loss in 2019, third on the team behind Za’Darius Smith and Kenny Clark. He also missed 19 tackles, on a par with his last two seasons. Still, Martinez got a ton of backs down before they could get to the safety level. He didn’t have much knockback compared to many other ILBs but he usually got them down. That’s important. In man coverage, he had limitations when matched against speed and quickness. In zone coverage, he could flip his hips and carry deeper routes sufficiently so as not to be a total liability. Never a playmaker, he was responsible for just seven turnover plays. His total of seven pressures as a rusher this season was down from 15 ½ a year ago. He’s a box player with short arms (31 5/8), someone who got worse the further away he was from the box. The Packers don’t think Martinez made an impact and think they can do better. Time will tell if they’re right. Grade: C-plus

 

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On the other hand, when these moves fail to turn the team around, and we post a sub 500 season, Getty will have had more than enough time to try to right the ship, and should be fired accordingly.

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Blake Martinez replaces Ogletree. (Same caliber of MLB)

Bradberry replaces Jenkins (possibly a small upgrade, but trivial at best).

Fackrell replaces Golden (likely a downgrade).

And we bring back Leonard Williams.

So in sum, we essentially are fielding the same defense as last year, personnel wise.

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The Green Bay reddit is ecstatic he's gone. 

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How would Martinez, who just signed a large free agent contract be the same caliber of a guy who got cut and frankly deserved it. Ogletree was bad in coverage but wasn't very good at any aspect at linebacker for us.

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13 hours ago, mastershake said:

Alex Ogeltree 2.0, but he's white.

This will make MakeMeSomeFoodHo sad.

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Martinez is better than the stats are going to tell you.  

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28 minutes ago, Tempest said:

Martinez is better than the stats are going to tell you.  

um, he's the exact opposite kind of player. His raw stat lines jump out. He's had 200+ tackle seasons.

The problem is, those 200+ tackles are mostly 5+ yards downfield. 

 

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21 hours ago, mastershake said:

Alex Ogeltree 2.0, but he's white.

We cut Ogletree but replaced him with Ogletree, while still paying the salary for the old Ogletree. 

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