BlueInCanada Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just a thread with recent news of who Judge is bringing in for interviews and who he's retaining from the previous group. From all reports he's keeping two coaches so far, WR coach Tyke Tolbert and ST coordinator Thomas McGaughey. He's interviewing Dolphins DC Patrick Graham to fill Bettchers spot, Graham was in NE with Judge and with the Giants in 2016 and 2017 as the D Line coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 It's becoming official Patrick Graham is the next Giants DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001096222/article/giants-hiring-dolphins-dc-patrick-graham-as-their-dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 Also to note since leaving the Giants only two seasons ago there is only one player remaining from that Dline unit Graham coached, being Tomlinson. Kinda shows how bad the roster is only one player has been here longer than two seasons on the Dline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Miami’s Defense was horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 hours ago, BlueInCanada said: Also to note since leaving the Giants only two seasons ago there is only one player remaining from that Dline unit Graham coached, being Tomlinson. Kinda shows how bad the roster is only one player has been here longer than two seasons on the Dline. Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, JayD said: Miami’s Defense was horrible. It was, I guess it should be noted that Miami was trading away anyone who could play, but they were still bad by all measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Yeah but Miami was doing a firesale. I for one am not sure about Graham's credentials or his body of work - but oh well - if Judge Dredd trusts him, then well, lets just see. Im far more interested in the OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Iceman_NYG said: Yeah but Miami was doing a firesale. I for one am not sure about Graham's credentials or his body of work - but oh well - if Judge Dredd trusts him, then well, lets just see. Im far more interested in the OC. Really? I was far more interested in the new DC. This offense was at least able to score points. The D needs to be straightened out far more than the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 hours ago, JayD said: Miami’s Defense was horrible. not relative to their talent their weren't. that roster was bare, a few of their starters on defense were cast offs from our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, CrazedDogs said: not relative to their talent their weren't. that roster was bare, a few of their starters on defense were cast offs from our roster. Yeah, guess ya really can’t judge, pun intended, from his one year stint there. Just wish there was something in this shake up where we can say that this is definitely a good thing. So many unknowns. This is another big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I didn't know much on Judge when hired, but interviews and reports have me really liking the hire. I want to hear the DC speak a bit before I form any kind of opinion. Not a well known name...like Judge a week ago. But Miami played well down the stretch, not tanking like ownership wanted. I put that on the coaches motivating the players and appealing to their prude as men. If the DC was part of that, then I don't hate this hire at all. But let the guy be introduced, give a bit of his outlook, and we'll go from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Tempest said: Not really How so? Entire unit turnovers in under two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 hours ago, CrazedDogs said: not relative to their talent their weren't. that roster was bare, a few of their starters on defense were cast offs from our roster. That's my only take the Dolphins were trading away starters this year so build for the coming seasons. They played well the last few weeks if the season not to much before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Iceman_NYG said: Yeah but Miami was doing a firesale. I for one am not sure about Graham's credentials or his body of work - but oh well - if Judge Dredd trusts him, then well, lets just see. Im far more interested in the OC. I was hoping for a proven old school DC like Phillips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Prince_Nas said: I was hoping for a proven old school DC like Phillips... There's some reports that he's turned down a few offers because he's "waiting for the right fit" aka waiting for a playoff team to call. He's already 73 and his next coaching stent is probably his last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1216809676328919041 As expected he's bringing in former coaches he worked in NE with. Try this again: More #Giants assistants coming together: QB coach is expected to be Jerry Schuplinski, sources said. Was assistant QB coach for the #Dolphins, who will let him reunite with Joe Judge. Schuplinski was with the #Patriots 2013-18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Reports are Ol Miss coach Freddie Roach has been hired as DL coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 For all his talk about friendship not being a good reason to hire a guy, I'm mildly concerned that Judge seems to be digging deep into his ol boys network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, CrazedDogs said: For all his talk about friendship not being a good reason to hire a guy, I'm mildly concerned that Judge seems to be digging deep into his ol boys network. I like this DL coach signing more then Graham or the QB coach. But yeah says he is looking at experience in his staff, proceeds to just hire his old work buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Graham is also assistant HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Youth movement for the coaching staff so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Are any of these coaches black men? And I mean like black men from Texas and lib city and coconut grove Miami and Augusta and Decatur Georgia and New Orleans Louisiana and Compton California. real black guy from black football neighborhoods. if so, I love the hire. if not, just another whitewashed staff that won’t get shit done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 21 hours ago, BlueInCanada said: How so? Entire unit turnovers in under two years? There was the changing over of the defense from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and that has a greater impact on the front seven of a defense. The next factor cost of a few key players and their perceived value: Jason Pierre-Paul, Olivier Vernon accounted for over $30 million in cap space per year and were traded to clear cap and acquire draft capital. Damon Harrison also fits in that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Tempest said: There was the changing over of the defense from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and that has a greater impact on the front seven of a defense. The next factor cost of a few key players and their perceived value: Jason Pierre-Paul, Olivier Vernon accounted for over $30 million in cap space per year and were traded to clear cap and acquire draft capital. Damon Harrison also fits in that category. Teams have changed from a 3-4 to a 4-3 and kept a majority of their personnel. If anything the LBs are the biggest spot of change in the move. The fact still remains the team could not maintain a level of talent in a two year period which reflects the roster in its current and previous years. If there was any player worth developing and building off of he would of been kept regardless of a change of scheme and how bad this roster has been, which Getty is trying to fix. This shows in the current state of the team being held together with one year FA pickups (Remmers, Golden, etc) and over paid vets. Which is why I said how bad this roster has been over the last few years that there has been no player worth developing over that time at any vital positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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