Bigblue25 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 We just had an underrated, this is NFL.com take NEW YORK GIANTS 136 Published: May 1, 2013 at 03:00 a.m. Updated: July 2, 2013 at 05:01 p.m. New York Giants: All-time underrated, overrated players JJ Territo NFL.com It's summer time at the NFL. During the next few weeks, we here at NFL.com will unveil our Most Underrated and Overrated Players of All Time for all 32 teams and allow users to determine their choices as well. Underrated Eli Manning -- QB, 2004-present Hands down, Manning is the greatest New York Giants quarterback ever. Fans don't give Eli enough credit for what he's accomplished in his nine seasons. He's already brought home two Super Bowl championships, one against a team pursuing the first 19-0 season in NFL history. Manning already has thrown for more touchdowns and fewer interceptions than Phil Simms. This season, Manning will most likely surpass Simms as the Giants' all-time leader in passing yards, and solidify his spot as the greatest quarterback in franchise history. For some reason, the perception that Eli Manning is not an elite quarterback still exists, and that makes him underrated. Chase Blackburn -- LB, 2005-2012 Blackburn went from his couch to the starting lineup in Super Bowl XLVI. While the Giants' Super Bowl victory will forever be credited to another spectacular Eli Manning throw, true Giants fans will never forget Blackburn's spectacular fourth quarter play. With the Giants down 17-15 and the Patriots driving, Blackburn changed the game when he out-jumped Rob Gronkowski to make an interception. Just 10 weeks before his game-changing pick, Blackburn wasn't even on an NFL roster. His name was quickly forgotten after the Super Bowl, and he recently signed with the Carolina Panthers. Much like David Tyree before him, Chase Blackburn's name should forever be in the hearts of Giants fans for his Super Bowl heroics. Dave Meggett -- RB, 1989-1994 While most Giants fans remember Meggett, he is still one of the most underrated players of all time. Meggett invigorated the Giants offense with his contributions in the return game and in the backfield. With the Giants' current absence of a return game, every fan would love to have a guy like Meggett on the squad. In 1990, he sparked the Giants to a Super Bowl championship with his league-leading 467 punt return yards. In that Super Bowl victory, Meggett also contributed on offense, coming up big on third downs throughout the game. Before Darren Sproles was a household name, Meggett was the prototypical "scat-back" threat and was consistently a game-changer. Ottis "O.J." Anderson -- RB, 1986-1992 Anderson revived his career in New York when he led the Giants to a victory over the Buffalo Bills in Super Bowl XXV. Originally drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals in 1979, Anderson was solid for seven seasons in St. Louis before being plagued with injuries. As he was approaching 30, Anderson's career appeared to be over and the Cardinals were looking to trade him. The Giants decided to take a chance on him, and in 1990 he ran wild at the age of 34. Anderson put up 1,023 yards and led the Giants to their second Super Bowl in five years. His performance in Super Bowl XXV was unforgettable as he rumbled for 102 yards and a touchdown, and was named the game's most valuable player. Joe Morrison -- RB, 1959-1972 After their loss to the Chicago Bears in the 1963 NFL Championship Game, the Giants offense struggled for years. They didn't have another winning season until 1970, but during that stretch Morrison was their entire offense. Morrison could do it all, as he lined up at halfback and flanker. In 1969, he had more than 1,000 yards from scrimmage and led the team in rushing. As he never made a Pro Bowl, Morrison was just an unsung hero on a mediocre team. After spending his entire 14-year career with the New York Giants, Morrison retired and was enshrined in the Giants' Ring of Honor. Since he will never wind up in Canton, Morrison will forever be underrated. Overrated Jeremy Shockey -- TE, 2002-07 Shockey made waves with his aggressive play and off-field persona, but proved to be replaceable during the Giants' run to victory in Super Bowl XLII. Despite making four Pro Bowls while with the Giants, Shockey was easily replaced by Kevin Boss, after Shockey suffered a broken fibula and missed the end of the season in 2007. Shockey never played an entire season for the Giants and never had more than 1,000 yards. After becoming a distraction in the locker room, the Giants traded Shockey to the New Orleans Saints for a second- and fifth-round pick. He played three incomplete seasons in New Orleans before being cut in 2011. Shockey defines the term overrated, as he will be remembered for his bravado and not his play. Justin Tuck -- DE, 2005-2012 As a captain, Tuck is supposed to be a leader on the Giants. The best leaders usually lead by example. Tuck hasn't exactly set the best example over the past two seasons, totaling just nine sacks in that time span. That doesn't cut it on a defense predicated on rushing the passer. The Giants had the NFL's second-worst defense in 2012, allowing 383.4 yards per game. They clearly need more leadership from their captain. If he's going to lead the Giants to another Super Bowl, Tuck needs to get off the Subway diet and start crushing opposing quarterbacks. Brandon Jacobs -- RB, 2005-2011 Jacobs runs his mouth better than he runs the football. Widely regarded as a short-yardage back strictly because of his size, Jacobs frequently got stuffed on short-yardage situations. Ahmad Bradshaw consistently overshadowed him on the field, as Jacobs produced only two 1,000-yard seasons in his eight-year career. After being released by the Giants following the 2011 season, Jacobs took his talents to San Francisco. As a 49er, he touched the ball five times before getting suspended for conduct detrimental to the team, proving that he was more of a distraction than anything else. Jason Sehorn -- DB, 1994-2002 For a while, Sehorn was the No. 1 cornerback on the Giants and a fan favorite. He flourished in the New York spotlight and eventually married Angie Harmon, yet Sehorn had a less-than-glorious career. Due to injuries, Sehorn was only able to play two complete seasons in his 10-year career. In his best season, 1997, Sehorn's six interceptions tied for the fifth most in the NFL. Sadly, Sehorn's most memorable moment came when he decided to pull up his pants instead of making a touchdown saving tackle. Ron Dayne -- RB, 2000-04 As a Heisman Trophy winner and a first-round pick in 2000, Dayne proved to be nothing more than a below-average running back. As a rookie, Dayne became part of "Thunder and Lightning" alongside Tiki Barber as the Giants made a Super Bowl run. Unfortunately, Dayne's run ended there as he slowly declined over the next three seasons. He never once had a 1,000-yard season and averaged a measly 3.8 yards per carry over his career. The fact that Dayne was considered part of something special during his rookie year makes him overrated. [/Quote] http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000212159/article/new-york-giants-alltime-underrated-overrated-players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I always loved when the Giants played the Skins because it meant either Megget or Brian Mitchell, or both would throw a td pass, lol. How in the world is Dayne over rated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 jacobs was automatic from short yardage his first few seasons before he declined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I always loved when the Giants played the Skins because it meant either Megget or Brian Mitchell, or both would throw a td pass, lol. How in the world is Dayne over rated? Perhaps they meant overrated coming out of college? I don't know. I think there's a difference between overrated and a bust. Dayne had great success in college and earned himself that first round grade. So you can't really say he was overrated on draft day. But, given his career in the NFL, you can most certainly call him a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 jacobs was automatic from short yardage his first few seasons before he declined yeah... but the offensive line was good those years too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 very true. he was pretty nice for us for a couple of years but a guy his size breaking down and declining so fast was inevitable. i think we got good value from that 4th round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I don't know about you guys, but I remember Jason Sehorn for his return of an onside kick for a touchdown against Tom Coughlin's Jags and his bobbling interception for a touchdown against the Eagles. I had forgotten all about the pants incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 very true. he was pretty nice for us for a couple of years but a guy his size breaking down and declining so fast was inevitable. i think we got good value from that 4th round pick The first couple years, he ran on intimidation and size. Eventually the league caught up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted July 4, 2013 Author Share Posted July 4, 2013 jacobs was automatic from short yardage his first few seasons before he declined Yeah, before he started tiptoeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I don't really agree with most of the overrated picks. Sehorn, Tuck, and Jacobs gave us some good/great years. While their full careers might have been better (and with Tuck, it still might be), their declines are due to injury, not some absence of talent. And Dayne!? How does being considered a bust qualify as being overrated? Completely agree about Shockey, though. The bullshit to joy ratio was way out of whack with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I don't know about you guys, but I remember Jason Sehorn for his return of an onside kick for a touchdown against Tom Coughlin's Jags and his bobbling interception for a touchdown against the Eagles. I had forgotten all about the pants incident. that interception is still probably the best play i've ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I don't really agree with most of the overrated picks. Sehorn, Tuck, and Jacobs gave us some good/great years. While their full careers might have been better (and with Tuck, it still might be), their declines are due to injury, not some absence of talent. And Dayne!? How does being considered a bust qualify as being overrated? Completely agree about Shockey, though. The bullshit to joy ratio was way out of whack with him. Sehorn's decline was purely due to the stupid decision to use him as a punt returner in a preseason game, too. You don't put your best CB back there to return punts, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 that interception is still probably the best play i've ever seen I love that play, you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I love that play, you're right. Idk man... maybe defensively it's up there but the best play I've ever seen was Manning to Tyree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Manning to Tyree was pure luck all across the board, though....that play took no "skill"....and Manning in all honesty and now that some time has passed, probably should have been declared down, too. The Manning to Manningham throw was way better. Shit, I think Manning's perfect toss to Plaxico to win 42 was a better play, too. In terms of skill and concentration, Sehorn's is up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Shockey is the only overrated I agree. Rest had other reasons for poor play. Dwayne was bust from year 1. If anything, the Wills, Hilliard were more overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 that interception is still probably the best play i've ever seen I love that play, you're right. "He did what?!?!?!" -Al Michaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Manning to Tyree was pure luck all across the board, though....that play took no "skill"....and Manning in all honesty and now that some time has passed, probably should have been declared down, too. The Manning to Manningham throw was way better. Shit, I think Manning's perfect toss to Plaxico to win 42 was a better play, too. In terms of skill and concentration, Sehorn's is up there. What? You mean he didn't scramble to get out of their grip? You mean our O-Line didn't hold these guys back enough.. you mean Eli didn't look down field.. set and fired? You mean Tyree didn't outjump their defender and still held on? Luck my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 What? You mean he didn't scramble to get out of their grip? You mean our O-Line didn't hold these guys back enough.. you mean Eli didn't look down field.. set and fired? You mean Tyree didn't outjump their defender and still held on? Luck my ass. Yeah, the holding part was questionable, too. I'm saying if it hadn't been a Super Bowl, that play is whistled dead or even flagged 9 times out of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashTalker92 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Dayne is consider overrated because he came out of college with a hesimen trophy. My Overrated player would be: Josephy aka willy beans from "the U" and Luke Petty-fales-start-guuu. Under-rated players: Fred Robbins, Seaburt,O'hara and Keith Hamilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Yeah, the holding part was questionable, too. I'm saying if it hadn't been a Super Bowl, that play is whistled dead or even flagged 9 times out of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Yeah, the holding part was questionable, too. I'm saying if it hadn't been a Super Bowl, that play is whistled dead or even flagged 9 times out of 10. I've seen in-the-grasp called on similar plays... but technically, whistling the play dead would have been the wrong call - merely having somebody by the jersey does not constitute in-the-grasp. besides, I hate it when they call ticky-tack in the grasp on the QB. about holding.... well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I've seen in-the-grasp called on similar plays... but technically, whistling the play dead would have been the wrong call - merely having somebody by the jersey does not constitute in-the-grasp. besides, I hate it when they call ticky-tack in the grasp on the QB. about holding.... well... That's a good, diplomatic answer I agree, it probably would have been the wrong call because Eli did escape but he was stopped for a full second or two before he made it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Dayne is consider overrated because he came out of college with a hesimen trophy. My Overrated player would be: Josephy aka willy beans from "the U" and Luke Petty-fales-start-guuu. Under-rated players: Fred Robbins, Seaburt,O'hara and Keith Hamilton Good picks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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