CrazedDogs

yeah, but a lot of the players on this list don't make sense. Sure, cut Eli's pay, but who in their right mind would say that he shouldn't be making more than Matthew Stafford?

meh, the Giants were selling out to stop Lacy. There were all kinds of passing opportunities yesterday. If Rodgers were out there, the Packers would have run for three times the yardage.

yes, YES, let the hate consume you. Don't know what you expected... 3rd string QBs are usually 3rd string for a reason. Tolzien did well, all things considered.

'Damn it, Donald!' - Peyton Manning

I disagree. It may happen across all ethnicities, but generally only within a culture of poverty.

yeah, when I was a kid I got a good grade one time, and a friend who was black said to me, 'man, why you have to be so white all the time.' I didn't know what to say, but I think I gave him such a 'WTF' look that he kind of walked it back. He said, 'oh, I guess that was kind of racist of me' - 'yeah man, it was.... but not towards me, towards yourself.' Blew my mind... we were in like 6th grade I guess, so young for him to feel that way. Unfortunately Defiler, I would like to say that the black middle/upper class don't embrace it, but the kids can get sucked in.... blew my mind when we came to find out that the rash of break ins in a neighborhood I used to live in was not from the welfare block a short walk away... it wasn't the poor kids, it was a bunch of upper class african american kids two blocks the other direction, who all lived in nicer houses than I did. Just kids, playing at being something they're not and should never want to be. I just hope they grew out of it.

wow, Whitlock took that somewhere I wasn't expecting. Harsh, but probably true.

I believe it, I was higher on Wilson. Thought he would be a special player, and he sure showed some of that last season. I would have been happy with Martin too, but I saw him as more of a solid grinder, a Ray Rice type player. But Wilson has... had... hall of fame potential.

I didn't... Wilson is faaaaar more talented than the Muscle Hamster.

he wasn't getting good reviews this season.

I wondered the same thing, but I think Frazier wanted to get a particular package on the field. Last three plays were all loaded with A gap pressure, it was a change up... and an effective one at that. I think he saw something... same thing I saw.... RGIII panics with pressure in his face. Good outside contain + A gap pressure = ineffective RGIII.

yeah, Brian Hartline said the same thing. Is it possible that this story is entirely media driven? ::gasp:: I am shocked! Maybe Martin has other issues....

Gorilla, this was a story days before that voice mail went to the media. The n-bomb is an afterthought.

8-0 championship!

I've heard some murmurs that Incognito was a real problem beyond just being a scrappy guy on the field. I'm amazed that the Dolphins didn't know more about it.

probably any lineman who wants to keep his job.

ha ha ha

And was promptly removed from the game. I really think he just rubs Coughlin the wrong way. Knowing next to nothing about his personality, only seeing his potential, I leave him in there and let him work it out. In the NFL you have to know when to hold 'em, and know when to fold 'em... and this kid has always had the best hand at the table, he doesn't know what it is to have to fold. Hence lots of effort-related fumbles, ala Ricky Watters. The Giants lost 6 straight games anyway... as little as Wilson was on the field during that period, the team would have been no worse off though that period with him getting a feature back's workload. And would have been better off going forward, with a more confident, experienced player at runningback. This of course being a hypothetical world in which 1) Wilson doesn't get injured, and 2) he isn't (apparently) an immature little prick whom the head coach cannot stand.

I would agree, but with the way they limit contact in practice these days... well, practice time, period... you need touches in a real game to get experience. Wilson has been carrying the ball since he was like 7, and until last season he was always by far the most explosive guy on the field.... those bad habits aren't going to go away overnight. With his neck issues, it may be a moot point.

yeah, I was dead wrong about Beason. Dude can flat out play.

not sure why you're talking about the Giants here, but 'our' O-line is different at 3 positions than it was in Super Bowl XLVI

against whom the Giants beat themselves. not that week 1 games are worth all that much, predicatively speaking, but you can't seriously tell me that the week 1 game showed that the Cowboys would win a majority of games against the Giants. That game was Christmas come early for the Cowboys.

Andre plays on the offensive line?

And may even win the division.

It was only 13? It seemed like a lot more than that to me... oh well. Sucks about JPP's back. I think when the team is mathematically eliminated they should just shut him down.