jranieli Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Damn ...that stuff is flame retardant... and it begins...the hatred builds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 #giantsfansunite burn Eli jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 You know what sucks, your backyard layout. Dumbfuck has a blaze in his pit 3 -4 feet away from a trampoline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 You know what sucks, your backyard layout. Dumbfuck has a blaze in his pit 3 -4 feet away from a trampoline. LMFAO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*SDMF* Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 What really fuckin sucks is the giants, a team that rarely if ever makes a free agency splash, spent a ton of dough in free agency and it looks like they got worse on every position on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Lol okay, eli manning might suck but he doesn't suck that bad. Guy got 2 rings with the giants...and he goes and burns the jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Lol okay, eli manning might suck but he doesn't suck that bad. Guy got 2 rings with the giants...and he goes and burns the jersey In a way I don't blame him.. Eli can be infuriating sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 eli drives me nuts but come on how do you burn the jersey of someone who won superbowls for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Lol okay, eli manning might suck but he doesn't suck that bad. Guy got 2 rings with the giants...and he goes and burns the jersey No doubt burning the jersey is too extreme given Eli's accomplishments...but yeah, he's not making anyone around him any better. Eli has the ability to hold his own...but he does NOT have the ability to raise everyone else's play around him. That's the line, to me, that separates the really, really good from the hall of fame/elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 eli drives me nuts but come on how do you burn the jersey of someone who won superbowls for you He'd likely argue that the defense/Tyree/Manningham/etc. won the superbowls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 No doubt burning the jersey is too extreme given Eli's accomplishments...but yeah, he's not making anyone around him any better. Eli has the ability to hold his own...but he does NOT have the ability to raise everyone else's play around him. That's the line, to me, that separates the really, really good from the hall of fame/elite. I agree with everything here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 He'd likely argue that the defense/Tyree/Manningham/etc. won the superbowls... heh probably. funny thing is that i'd argue that eli was more impressive on that play than tyree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 No doubt burning the jersey is too extreme given Eli's accomplishments...but yeah, he's not making anyone around him any better. Eli has the ability to hold his own...but he does NOT have the ability to raise everyone else's play around him. That's the line, to me, that separates the really, really good from the hall of fame/elite. A certain weight falls onto the rest of the team as well. Peyton Manning can make any WR/TE and offense look like it's something special but take a look at the SB last year. The Seahawks exploited the weak Oline by bringing the house at Peyton on every play. It's the same thing the Patriots did back with he played for the Colts. I think Eli is in a similar situation now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 heh probably. funny thing is that i'd argue that eli was more impressive on that play than tyree On that play, yes, I'd agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 A certain weight falls onto the rest of the team as well. Peyton Manning can make any WR/TE and offense look like it's something special but take a look at the SB last year. The Seahawks exploited the weak Oline by bringing the house at Peyton on every play. It's the same thing the Patriots did back with he played for the Colts. I think Eli is in a similar situation now. Just because a QB can make other players better, doesn't absolve the other player from doing their part. A TE or WR still has to get to the right spot, know their reads, etc. But, a QB can throw to a back shoulder or throw to a space where the receiver can use their body to separate the defender from the ball. There's something to be said about 'throwing a WR open' is what I'm saying. Or, the QB can alter the route/play to gain an advantage for the receiver. Same, a WR can make a QB look awfully good by getting open/making difficult catches. And my point, is Eli isn't accurate enough to throw a receiver open, the offense is too new for players to be altering routes/plays. Further, the receivers were not able to get very open...thereby routine catches became contested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 eli drives me nuts but come on how do you burn the jersey of someone who won superbowls for you Fucking IMGRATES! All of 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl 1010 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 No doubt burning the jersey is too extreme given Eli's accomplishments...but yeah, he's not making anyone around him any better. Eli has the ability to hold his own...but he does NOT have the ability to raise everyone else's play around him. That's the line, to me, that separates the really, really good from the hall of fame/elite. This is so true, and so well said, but I also think that they aren't letting Eli be Eli in this system. He has played one way for 10 years, and now they are asking him to change. I don't think he has elevated anyone's game this season so far, but we have all SEEN him do exactly that, durig playoff runs, when it counts the most. Just wish he would do it consistently, instead of in spurts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yeah eli has for most of his career made those around him look good. People are getting awfully short memories right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 More dumbfuck for you. Just sell the fuckibg jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yeah eli has for most of his career made those around him look good. People are getting awfully short memories right now. Well, therein lies the debate. Over the last 10+ years, where does the greater impact fall. Is it... Eli making everyone around him appear to perform at higher levels or Everyone around Eli making Eli appear to perform at a higher level. I'm certain it's some combination of the two given it IS a team sport after all. And certainly, the answer to the question will be shrouded with opinion on clutch/routine moments, playoffs/regular season, injuries, etc. The reason the 'short memories' are raising their voices now...is that Eli is not currently helping his teammates nor are his teammates helping him. So it's not so much a short memory as it is an exploration as to why the team isn't performing up to the standard that fans can reasonably expect out of a QB who supposedly raises the level of play of those around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 i'm not surprised. a lot of giant fans have short memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Well, therein lies the debate. Over the last 10+ years, where does the greater impact fall. Is it... Eli making everyone around him appear to perform at higher levels or Everyone around Eli making Eli appear to perform at a higher level. I'm certain it's some combination of the two given it IS a team sport after all. And certainly, the answer to the question will be shrouded with opinion on clutch/routine moments, playoffs/regular season, injuries, etc. The reason the 'short memories' are raising their voices now...is that Eli is not currently helping his teammates nor are his teammates helping him. So it's not so much a short memory as it is an exploration as to why the team isn't performing up to the standard that fans can reasonably expect out of a QB who supposedly raises the level of play of those around him. i think that's fair for a lot of people, but i don't think it applies to the guy in the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 i think that's fair for a lot of people, but i don't think it applies to the guy in the video The guy in the video burning the jersey? The video says less about Eli than it does about the fucktard attention whore in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 right, that's who we're talking about. the people with short memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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