mastershake Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Like I said in the RIP thread: Watching ‘Giants Among Men’ so many times as a kid, I always remember Reeves as the Denver Head Coach we beat in 1986 than a former giants coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 What we would do for a Dan Reeves today. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 RIP Dan Reeves ( will always remember him mostly as the Denver HC on the wrong end of 39-20 in Super Bowl XX1 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Can't believe he was only 77. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Yeah obviously most well known for being a damn good coach for the Broncos, I remember being pretty excited when he came to the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 RIP coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Is he in the hall? Could make a good case, if Levy is in then Reeves definitely belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 He was in ATL longer than I remembered, most of seven seasons. Finished coaching before he was even sixty years old. Impressive career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Not in the hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 19 hours ago, Virginia Giant said: Yeah obviously most well known for being a damn good coach for the Broncos, I remember being pretty excited when he came to the Giants. Marty Mornhinweg would be in the Hall if he had Elway at the helm, but yeah, I too had pretty high hopes when the Giants got him. R.I.P. coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, BronxRik said: Marty Mornhinweg would be in the Hall if he had Elway at the helm, but yeah, I too had pretty high hopes when the Giants got him. R.I.P. coach He didn’t exactly suck in Atlanta either though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 George Young never gave him the tools and used him to get rid of Simms for his project Dave Brown. Reeves was always a class act. I would have told Reeves to do his own cut work for a Duke QB that never was in Dave Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 13 hours ago, TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt said: George Young never gave him the tools and used him to get rid of Simms for his project Dave Brown. Reeves was always a class act. I would have told Reeves to do his own cut work for a Duke QB that never was in Dave Brown. The Giants went into that first Reeves year of 1993 trying for one more run with Simms, LT and crew, and it actually was a decent 11 win team that made the playoffs and won the wildcard round (though Ricky Watters would hang 5 TDs on us the following week and the niners blew us out 44-3). Problem for Reeves is the Giants then: - Almost completely overturned the roster after 1993. - A few bad drafts in the mid 90s, particularly 91-96, especially on the offensive side (RB Bunch, TE Derek Brown, WR Thomas Lewis, RB Tyrone Wheatley), not to mention Cedric Jones. Granted they landed Strahan and Armstead at the time, but they didn't become impact players until later. Plus Keith Hamilton, Sehorn were good, but too many misses on the offensive side. - Tried to stick with Dave Brown way too long (by 1996. we should have known he was not the guy, but we even went into 1997 with him as the starter). - For all the good George Young did in 1980 - 1990, he never seemed to adapt to the 90's football world, especially the new free agency rules. The Giants seemed behind the curve on free agency in the mid 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Reeves and young were at odds. Reeves didn't want brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, boohyah said: Reeves and young were at odds. Reeves didn't want brown. Yeah sounds right because Brown was selected in the 1992 draft before Reeves was even here. Plus I suppose Reeves liked Maddox enough to bring him in, but he didn't pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 5 hours ago, mastershake said: Yeah sounds right because Brown was selected in the 1992 draft before Reeves was even here. Plus I suppose Reeves liked Maddox enough to bring him in, but he didn't pan out. Reeves had Maddox in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 17 hours ago, mastershake said: The Giants went into that first Reeves year of 1993 trying for one more run with Simms, LT and crew, and it actually was a decent 11 win team that made the playoffs and won the wildcard round (though Ricky Watters would hang 5 TDs on us the following week and the niners blew us out 44-3). Problem for Reeves is the Giants then: - Almost completely overturned the roster after 1993. - A few bad drafts in the mid 90s, particularly 91-96, especially on the offensive side (RB Bunch, TE Derek Brown, WR Thomas Lewis, RB Tyrone Wheatley), not to mention Cedric Jones. Granted they landed Strahan and Armstead at the time, but they didn't become impact players until later. Plus Keith Hamilton, Sehorn were good, but too many misses on the offensive side. - Tried to stick with Dave Brown way too long (by 1996. we should have known he was not the guy, but we even went into 1997 with him as the starter). - For all the good George Young did in 1980 - 1990, he never seemed to adapt to the 90's football world, especially the new free agency rules. The Giants seemed behind the curve on free agency in the mid 90's. For sure... I meant to cut Young not Reeves. Young was so unprepared for the new free agency. I was so sick of Dave Brown and everyone could tell that he was Young's little spoiled brat. We stick too long with losing project man. We took Brown first pick in the supplemental draft. Thanks GOD that does not exist anymore Brown was the worst QB pick for the Giant ever IMHO He was way worse than Graham or Kannel were with their less than stellar passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 10 hours ago, boohyah said: Reeves had Maddox in Denver. Right, that's what I'm saying. Bringing him to the Giants must have been a Reeves call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 5 hours ago, mastershake said: Right, that's what I'm saying. Bringing him to the Giants must have been a Reeves call. For sure and he totally sucked here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/5/2022 at 12:37 AM, TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt said: For sure... I meant to cut Young not Reeves. Young was so unprepared for the new free agency. I was so sick of Dave Brown and everyone could tell that he was Young's little spoiled brat. We stick too long with losing project man. We took Brown first pick in the supplemental draft. Thanks GOD that does not exist anymore Brown was the worst QB pick for the Giant ever IMHO He was way worse than Graham or Kannel were with their less than stellar passing. The supplemental draft is still around actually. DG drafted Sam Beal in the 3rd round of the supplemental in 2018 for instance...which of course was the start of Sam Beal's journey to never play NFL football, Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, mastershake said: The supplemental draft is still around actually. DG drafted Sam Beal in the 3rd round of the supplemental in 2018 for instance...which of course was the start of Sam Beal's journey to never play NFL football, Lol. Oh Jesus, I thought that was done soon after Brown. It is a quiet way for Giants to pick losers IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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