The Final 53 man roster - according to Inside Football

[BleedinBlue]

This is an interesting take on the final roster. I disagree on a couple of things (cutting Petrus), etc., but found it a good read:

 

Projecting the Giants’ Final 53

 

Published 08/23/2012 | By Patricia Traina

 

Next week NFL teams will need to make their roster cuts, the first of which will take place on Monday by 4PM when teams drop from 90 to 75, and then the last cuts taking place next Friday, 8/31 by 9PM ET when teams must get down to the final 53.

 

As I do every year, I’ve outlined how I think the roster might play out any why. I’m sure there will be a few surprises – new injuries or injuries that are more severe than we realize – that will play into the coaches’ decision for the actual roster. But for now, here is my best guess.

 

QUARTERBACKS: (2)

In: Eli Manning, David Carr

Out: Ryan Perrilloux

This is probably the easiest position to predict, as barring injury, the signal callers remain unchanged from last year.

 

As for Perrilloux, he’s had an inconsistent camp. While he could end up on the practice squad again, I wouldn’t be shocked if the team adds another young prospect.

 

RUNNING BACKS (5)

In: Ahmad Bradshaw, David Wilson, DJ Ware, Da’Rel Scott, Henry Hynoski (FB)

Out: Andre Brown, Joe Martinek

Bradshaw’s wrist issue should be resolved by opening day. However, he does have that injury history with his feet, which pretty much mandates that four running backs be kept.

 

Why Scott over Brown? I think he has a little more upside at this stage of the game. And I’m thinking Martinek will end up on the practice squad where he can spend a year in the system, working to become bigger and stronger. This year is the last year for Ware and for Bear Pascoe, the latter of whom is the backup fullback. If Martinek does make it through to the practice squad and works on honing his skills, I could see him competing for a roster spot next year as both a running back and backup fullback.

 

TIGHT ENDS (3)

In: Martellus Bennett, Bear Pascoe, Adrien Robinson

Out: Larry Donnell, Ryan Purvis, Christian Hopkins, Travis Beckum (PUP)

This is another position that was easy to predict as long as the top three guys stay healthy.

 

I don’t think Beckum comes off PUP this year – even if he’s ready after six weeks, the team would likely have to cut another guy at this position, and unless someone is injured, I just don’t see that happening.

Also, I think they’ll carry a tight end on the practice squad – my guess right now would be Purvis, who’s flashed in camp.

 

RECEIVERS (6)

In: Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, Domenik Hixon, Rueben Randle, Jerrel Jernigan, David Douglas

Out: Julian Talley, Brandon Collins, Dan DePalma, Isaiah Stanback, Ramses Barden

I think this might be the end of the line for Barden, the athletically gifted, former third-round draft pick who just can’t seem to put it together on the field when it counts. Toss in the fact that Barden doesn’t play special teams while Douglas does, and I just don’t see how the coaches can keep Barden over Douglas.

 

Although Douglas’ progress was interrupted by an injury, he’s been working his way back, and I think the Giants may give him a chance, though I doubt he’d be active, unless there’s an injury. I have him over Stanback because Douglas can return punts

 

I think one, if not two receivers will find their way to the practice squad, and I’m thinking it will be Collins and DePalma.

 

OFFENSIVE LINE (9)

In: Sean Locklear, Will Beatty, Kevin Boothe, David Baas, Chris Snee, David Diehl, Jim Cordle, Brandon Mosley, James Brewer

Out: Stephen Goodin, Selvish Capers, Mitch Petrus, Joel Reinders, Matt McCants, Chris White

The Beatty injury may cause them carrying an extra tackle. Right now there is no estimated return date for Beatty, who not only missed the end of last year, he also missed the entire spring and most of the summer in what’ s been a long layoff.

 

While they’re still hoping that at some point the get Beatty back on the field, there has to be concern about him getting back into football shape, and with padded practices dropping to one per week once the regular season begins, that could take a little longer than the coaches might like. If Beatty’s back becomes a long-term issue, I wouldn’t be stunned if he ends up on IR and they bring in someone from the outside.

I have Cordle over Petrus because Cordle is not only a pure center, he can also play guard. Petrus, meanwhile hasn’t really seen much work this summer at center, taking almost all of his snaps at guard. Given that the team likes to have versatility, and given that the coaches would prefer to not have to shuffle too many guys around if there is an injury, I think Cordle, who can also long snap, slips on the 53-man roster this year, as he would go in for Baas if something were to happen at center.

 

I don’t think there will be room for both Mosley and McCants on the final roster. Mosley has seen some snaps at guard and I think if his ankle injury isn’t too serious to warrant being placed on IR (a posibility), he’ll get the nod over mcCants. If Mosley does en up on IR, then McCants will get the nod.

Lastly, I have Goodin projected for the practice squad.

 

DEFENSIVE LINE (8)

In: Justin Tuck, Jason Pierre-Paul, Osi Umenyiora, Adrian Tracy, Linval Joseph, Rocky Bernard, Marcus Thomas, Dwayne Hendricks

Out: Markus Kuhn, Matt Broha, Shaun Rogers (IR), Chris Canty (PUP), Craig Marshall, Adewale Ojomo, Marvin Austin (IR), Carlton Powell, Oren Wilson

Austin has missed quite a bit of time this summer, not a good thing for a young player who hasn’t played in a game that counts for anything in about three years . If he can’t get on the field in this last week of the preseason, I don’t see how they can carry him on the roster.

 

I think Hendricks sticks ahead of Kuhn. While Kuhn, the seventh-round draft pick, has flashed, I have to wonder how much the the reps he lost due to his work visa issue in the spring have set him back. If they can slip him through to the practice squad, he’ll probably develop into a nice player for them down the line.

I think Broha might have a place on the practice squad. And I am not as optimistic abut Rogers’ return as some, nor do I think Canty will be ready to start the year.

 

LINEBACKERS (7)

In: Mathias Kiwanuka, Chase Blackburn, Michael Boley, Mark Herzlich, Spencer Paysinger, Jacquian Williams, Keith Rivers

Out: Jake Muasau, Greg Jones

Boley’s injury is a problem for sure, though Rivers has looked good in his place. I think that the last spot will come down to Jones, a former sixth round draft pick who’s had a quiet preseason, and Paysinger, the undrafted free agent who has been more productive. I also think Muasau is headed for the practice squad if he clears waivers

 

DEFENSIVE BACKS (10)

In: Prince Amukamara, Corey Webster, Terrell Thomas, Antrel Rolle, Kenny Phillips, Will Hill, Laron Scott, Steve Brown, Jayron Hosley, Michael Coe

Out: Tyler Sash (suspended), Jojo Nicolas, Chris Horton, Dante Hughes, Brandon Bing, Bruce Johnson, Antwaun Molden, Justin Tryon

I’m thinking the Giants go into the season carrying Thomas, whose return date is still unclear. Also with Hosley’s turf toe a potential issue for the start of the year, I think they almost definitely have to carry an extra cornerback. I think that person will be Coe, who is also a special teams contributor.

I also think Scott, who contributes a kickoff returner, will stick because I don’t see David Wilson, assuming he wins the kickoff return job, keeping it once he starts to become more involved with the offense. Once Sash returns, I think Brown will be let go

 

SPECIALISTS (3)

In: Lawrence Tynes, Steve Weatherford, Zak DeOssie

Out: None

Nothing to analyze here given that the was no competition for these three in camp.

[Allstarjim]

It's a better effort than others I've seen. I'm going to do a final 53 man prediction, but I prefer to wait until after the week 3 preseason game. So much can change pending the outcome with injuries as such. Hopefully we'll be fine in that department.

 

I highly doubt Austin is going on IR. And I don't see Laron Scott making it, but again, I'd like to see him in game action. KR isn't going to be that big of a deal this year because with the kickoffs moved to the 35, there are so many more touchbacks. That's a job that will probably go to Wilson. And if they go to someone else, they can just give it to Douglas, who I agree with Pat that he will make this team.

 

I think she's spot on with the linebackers.

 

I definitely have Petrus over Cordle. But right now I have Andre Brown over Scott. I pretty much agree with everything else.

[BleedinBlue]

It's a better effort than others I've seen. I'm going to do a final 53 man prediction, but I prefer to wait until after the week 3 preseason game. So much can change pending the outcome with injuries as such. Hopefully we'll be fine in that department.

 

I highly doubt Austin is going on IR. And I don't see Laron Scott making it, but again, I'd like to see him in game action. KR isn't going to be that big of a deal this year because with the kickoffs moved to the 35, there are so many more touchbacks. That's a job that will probably go to Wilson. And if they go to someone else, they can just give it to Douglas, who I agree with Pat that he will make this team.

 

I think she's spot on with the linebackers.

 

I definitely have Petrus over Cordle. But right now I have Andre Brown over Scott. I pretty much agree with everything else.

 

I was reading a practice report the other day and it said Kuhn was really impressing. They said he went toe to toe with Mitch Petrus and picked Petrus right off the ground and threw him back several feet and then got a hand on the QB. That kind of surprised me because the one thing I remember about Petrus was him setting the NFL record for most bench press reps for any player.

 

I agree with David Douglas as well. He's been stellar day in and day out - in traffic and running routes - great hands. He could be the surprise of team by the time the dust settles. He's certainly proven he can play at the NFL level now that he's working with a QB that can accurately throw to a player who gets in the right position. He's got nice size, but it does seem a little on the weird side to see a white boy playing WR these days.

 

[Treehugger]

RECEIVERS (6)

In: Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, Domenik Hixon, Rueben Randle, Jerrel Jernigan, David Douglas

Out: Julian Talley, Brandon Collins, Dan DePalma, Isaiah Stanback, Ramses Barden

I think this might be the end of the line for Barden, the athletically gifted, former third-round draft pick who just can’t seem to put it together on the field when it counts. Toss in the fact that Barden doesn’t play special teams while Douglas does, and I just don’t see how the coaches can keep Barden over Douglas.

 

Although Douglas’ progress was interrupted by an injury, he’s been working his way back, and I think the Giants may give him a chance, though I doubt he’d be active, unless there’s an injury. I have him over Stanback because Douglas can return punts

 

I think one, if not two receivers will find their way to the practice squad, and I’m thinking it will be Collins and DePalma.

 

[Chuck Wagon]

I was reading a practice report the other day and it said Kuhn was really impressing. They said he went toe to toe with Mitch Petrus and picked Petrus right off the ground and threw him back several feet and then got a hand on the QB. That kind of surprised me because the one thing I remember about Petrus was him setting the NFL record for most bench press reps for any player.

 

I agree with David Douglas as well. He's been stellar day in and day out - in traffic and running routes - great hands. He could be the surprise of team by the time the dust settles. He's certainly proven he can play at the NFL level now that he's working with a QB that can accurately throw to a player who gets in the right position. He's got nice size, but it does seem a little on the weird side to see a white boy playing WR these days.

 

 

BB...what's the injury he has been working through?

 

C. Wagon

[osi724dasack]

I think re rock 3 RBs, Scott and Brown get cut.

 

I also think we will carry one extra Safety/CB

[Mr. P]

I think re rock 3 RBs, Scott and Brown get cut.

 

I also think we will carry one extra Safety/CB

 

with how bradshaw misses time every year there is no way we only carry 3 rb's.

[Allstarjim]

Douglas missed some practice time and the first preseason game due to a quad injury. It's not serious, in fact, I don't even think it's a current issue at all. He is fully participating in practice and he played in the 2nd game and had a very nice 23 yard catch. Here is a list of players that didn't practice on Wednesday (source, Jorge Castillo of the NJ Star-Ledger):

 

--Marvin Austin (back)

--Michael Boley (hamstring)

--Jayron Hosley (toe)

--Travis Beckum (PUP, knee)

--Adrian Tracy (hamstring)

--Brandon Bing (hamstring)

--Chris Canty (PUP, knee)

[JackStroud]

I hope he is wrong about Kuhn and Perriloux.

 

These are the kind of exciting new blood that we need to continue dominance. We have all seen things go south real fast before

after a SB victory, and so have the analysts (thus there cautious optomism about the Giants).

[Allstarjim]

I'm missing Brandon Mosley, who has an ankle issue and was in a walking boot.

[Allstarjim]

I hope he is wrong about Kuhn and Perriloux.

 

These are the kind of exciting new blood that we need to continue dominance. We have all seen things go south real fast before

after a SB victory, and so have the analysts (thus there cautious optomism about the Giants).

 

Pat Traina is a woman.

 

Jack, Perriloux has as much chance of making the 53 man roster as I do. Come to terms with it now. This is not an educated guess I'm making. He simply won't make it. To drive home the point, even if David Carr's right arm were to fall off, the Giants would simply make a trade similar to the one they made to bring in Sage Rosenfels a year or two ago, or they would get a free agent QB to be Eli's backup. Perriloux is not going to go into the season as Eli's backup. It's not going to happen, nor should it. And also, the Giants aren't going to carry 3 QB's. It's just not going to happen. So Perriloux will be cut. There isn't a competition for the #2 QB job. But Jackybo, don't worry, Perriloux will survive waivers and I'm quite confident the Giants will put him on their practice squad again, so don't worry so much.

[BlueInCanada]

I would like us to keep Kuhn, even if it's just a practice squad role. He's looked very impressive this pre-season and I doubt he would be able to stay on the FA market for long, I doubt the Giants would even be able to clear him for their practice squad some other team would end up grabbing him.

 

The only other position I see if the RB, I don't think Scott gets in over Brown who has played better this pre-season.

 

Everything else I agree with.

[*SDMF*]

I would only change Petrus for Booth. Im sick of this guys injury issues, its time to cut him loose. And from what ive heard I thought they were gonna try and get this guy khun to play.

[JackStroud]

Pat Traina is a woman.

 

Jack, Perriloux has as much chance of making the 53 man roster as I do. Come to terms with it now. This is not an educated guess I'm making. He simply won't make it. To drive home the point, even if David Carr's right arm were to fall off, the Giants would simply make a trade similar to the one they made to bring in Sage Rosenfels a year or two ago, or they would get a free agent QB to be Eli's backup. Perriloux is not going to go into the season as Eli's backup. It's not going to happen, nor should it. And also, the Giants aren't going to carry 3 QB's. It's just not going to happen. So Perriloux will be cut. There isn't a competition for the #2 QB job. But Jackybo, don't worry, Perriloux will survive waivers and I'm quite confident the Giants will put him on their practice squad again, so don't worry so much.

 

There is always the possibility Carr gets injured in one of these last two games, or has a permanent panic attack when sacked and has to be institutionalized LOL

[Storm]

I don't see how we don't carry at least 1 more cornerback than this guy has listed. I'm aware this was made before the Fragile Prince's latest injury, but still, I think we keep Antwaun Molden, too.... 7 CBs, because 2 of them won't be ready to go for game 1.

[Storm]

I hope he is wrong about Kuhn and Perriloux.

 

These are the kind of exciting new blood that we need to continue dominance. We have all seen things go south real fast before

after a SB victory, and so have the analysts (thus there cautious optomism about the Giants).

 

Because I'm sure those two will make or break our 2012 season. At least, that's what the analysts tell me.

 

[Storm]

I would like us to keep Kuhn, even if it's just a practice squad role. He's looked very impressive this pre-season and I doubt he would be able to stay on the FA market for long, I doubt the Giants would even be able to clear him for their practice squad some other team would end up grabbing him.

 

The only other position I see if the RB, I don't think Scott gets in over Brown who has played better this pre-season.

 

Everything else I agree with.

 

I think you may be right on Brown vs. Scott but I believe that Scott is the better athlete and running back, despite performance. Hasn't Brown been another one that has not only bounced off and on our own practice squad, but other teams' around the league, as well? I think it will be Bradshaw, Wilson, Ware, Scott. But I honestly hate DJ Ware so I would love to see BOTH Scott and Brown make the team. But Ware is the reliable 3rd down back so no way he's out, Coughlin loves the dependable, role-type guys.

[BleedinBlue]

I think you may be right on Brown vs. Scott but I believe that Scott is the better athlete and running back, despite performance. Hasn't Brown been another one that has not only bounced off and on our own practice squad, but other teams' around the league, as well? I think it will be Bradshaw, Wilson, Ware, Scott. But I honestly hate DJ Ware so I would love to see BOTH Scott and Brown make the team. But Ware is the reliable 3rd down back so no way he's out, Coughlin loves the dependable, role-type guys.

 

I think Scott might have earned himself a stay of execution after that fine play he made last night blocking the punt. I think the kid could be very good if he just got enough touches to become confident. Regardless....I've seen enough of Ware and would be happy with either Scott of Brown over him.

[JackStroud]

Pat Traina is a woman.

 

Jack, Perriloux has as much chance of making the 53 man roster as I do. Come to terms with it now. This is not an educated guess I'm making. He simply won't make it. To drive home the point, even if David Carr's right arm were to fall off, the Giants would simply make a trade similar to the one they made to bring in Sage Rosenfels a year or two ago, or they would get a free agent QB to be Eli's backup. Perriloux is not going to go into the season as Eli's backup. It's not going to happen, nor should it. And also, the Giants aren't going to carry 3 QB's. It's just not going to happen. So Perriloux will be cut. There isn't a competition for the #2 QB job. But Jackybo, don't worry, Perriloux will survive waivers and I'm quite confident the Giants will put him on their practice squad again, so don't worry so much.

 

I'd don't give a pigs rear what she/he is...........David Carr may also be a woman......(he/she needs a harmone/genetic) gave a performance for the ages last night.........he was so terrible, it was beyond comprehension

 

I am I the only one here that can see this guy has nerves of glass, folds like cheap suit when hit, and was skipping grounders to wide open receivers

 

People give Tim tebow a hard time for skipping grounders..............Tim Tebow looks like Johnny Unitas compared to the worst outright #1 draft pick in NFL history.

[Storm]

I think Scott might have earned himself a stay of execution after that fine play he made last night blocking the punt. I think the kid could be very good if he just got enough touches to become confident. Regardless....I've seen enough of Ware and would be happy with either Scott of Brown over him.

 

 

I kept hoping he'd become the Derrick Ward of the group, but it never came close to happening.

[JackStroud]

I like Scott too, we have never really gotten a chance to see how good he could be in a real game situation

[NeMesiS]

I would only change Petrus for Booth. Im sick of this guys injury issues, its time to cut him loose. And from what ive heard I thought they were gonna try and get this guy khun to play.

 

I don't think Petrus is going to make the team...

[JMFP]

This is an interesting take on the final roster. I disagree on a couple of things (cutting Petrus), etc., but found it a good read:

 

I agree with you.....I think given Beatty's status, it would be unwise to let Petrus go.

 

I liked what I see from Douglas at WR....the kid has some potential.

 

Marvin Austin might get one more year.....the "Sinorice Moss" rule.

[CrazedDogs]

I would only change Petrus for Booth. Im sick of this guys injury issues, its time to cut him loose. And from what ive heard I thought they were gonna try and get this guy khun to play.

 

You'd cut Boothe?

 

He was the only guy in the playoffs to handle Vince Wilfork. Dude can block.

[CrazedDogs]

I don't think Petrus is going to make the team...

 

I don't know, he's got some talent, but you're right that he hasn't played well this summer.