JMFP Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 It was something you said. Whatever it was, I changed my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 People used to talk sensibly about the draft in here, where was I back then and where are all these people now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 People used to talk sensibly about the draft in here, where was I back then and where are all these people now? I know diddly squat about college players.. and the way to get my attention is to provide an analysis about from freak of nature draftee and supply at least one youtube clip of the dude. So.. who's our next Ray Lewis or LT for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andrew_perloff/01/05/2011-nfl-mock-draft/ This article doesn't have any linebackers in the top 20...meaning the Giants could pick the best available. Travis Lewis is off the board....he's returning to Oklahoma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashTalker92 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Holy crap. The quality of thread is outstanding. Whatever happen to these guys?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rphguy Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 If we go LB in round 1, who do you want? one that can also be our new head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 This thread is depressing. As I have stated many times the Giants will never draft a 1st round LB. The amount of passed on good LBs by the Giants is terrible. But hey I guess Kiwanuka should count as a drafted LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Giants go OL, OL, RB in the 1st 3 rounds. We'll address the LB situation in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andrew_perloff/01/05/2011-nfl-mock-draft/ This article doesn't have any linebackers in the top 20...meaning the Giants could pick the best available. Travis Lewis is off the board....he's returning to Oklahoma. wow they have us picking another DT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 wow they have us picking another DT? not a chance. We will take the best fit/available OL there. Right it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 not a chance. We will take the best fit/available OL there. Right it down. But why? Our entire starting 5 OL are under contract for next season, we have recent signings and picks as well that are part of the future in Beatty, Andrews, and Petrus... I could see a DT even before an OL. I wouldn't mind another mid-round pick at OT, but I don't think there's urgency to address it in the first round. We are possibly losing Cofield and Tollefson to free agency, too. I think most likely, they are going RB, TE, or LB. I'm hoping we get the best LB on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 LB's and Tight Ends- that's how New England did it this year. May be worth a thought, Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 best player available would be just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 LB's and Tight Ends- that's how New England did it this year. May be worth a thought, Jerry. I want Kyle Rudolph, Resign Boss pair them in a two TE set. It will work if Gilbride lets it . I do not think there's a LB worth a first rounder at least not one that fits in 4-3. Ayers, Miller and Houston are all 3-4 guys, Miller could play strongside in 4-3 possibly but he doesn't have a 1st round grade and he would be a work in progress. The free agency class is pretty solid, we could get David Harris who's been playing in the Jets 3-4 but I think he more naturally fits into the 4-3. Chad Greenway would be great but no way is Minnesota letting him go. I would even settle for D'Qwell Jackson, I liked him coming out Maryland and he would fit the Tampa 2, he would also compliment Boley well. Also why is everybody going OL,OL,OL? we only gave up 16 sacks last year, 2nd least in the NFL. We have all 5 starters under contract and great depth, I wouldn't mind a RT in the later rounds. Someone like Nate Potter would be great, but I don't see OL in the 1st round. OL to me is the least of our worries. EDIT: Sorry I got ahead of myself, there will be no FA signings next year and no NFL. Also the world is gonna end by time we do get NFL back at least there's college and it seems alot of players are returning to school, maybe because of this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Why do people reference a 2 TE Set every time a TE is mentioned in the draft like it's a viable gameplan? If our current TE is good enough we don't need to spend a high draft pick on another one. If he's not, turf him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Why do people reference a 2 TE Set every time a TE is mentioned in the draft like it's a viable gameplan? If our current TE is good enough we don't need to spend a high draft pick on another one. If he's not, turf him. What's wrong with a two TE set? I mean, it's not like you would run it all the time, but it gives the defense a different look and if you have 2 good combo TE's it's a very versatile formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 What's wrong with a two TE set? I mean, it's not like you would run it all the time, but it gives the defense a different look and if you have 2 good combo TE's it's a very versatile formation. The thing is though, if Gilly is still our guy going ito next season he never uses TEs. I highly doubt going into a game a team is thinking "Oh Gilly is going to dial up a heavy passing game centered around his TEs" heck when you think about it we have an offensive lineman playing TE more then Bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 The thing is though, if Gilly is still our guy going ito next season he never uses TEs. I highly doubt going into a game a team is thinking "Oh Gilly is going to dial up a heavy passing game centered around his TEs" heck when you think about it we have an offensive lineman playing TE more then Bear. Lol, that's true, but to be fair to Bear that's more because he became the team's fullback, and did an outstanding job at that. Long live the Pascoe swing pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 What's wrong with a two TE set? I mean, it's not like you would run it all the time, but it gives the defense a different look and if you have 2 good combo TE's it's a very versatile formation. How is 2 TE & 1 WR more versitile than 1 TE & 2 WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 How is 2 TE & 1 WR more versitile than 1 TE & 2 WR? I didn't say it was more versatile, I said it was versatile. But typically you would have to account for the extra TE moreso as a receiver than you would a FB in a 1 TE & 2 WR set, unless of course, your fullback is Bear Pascoe. Also, you still have 2 WRs in a 2 TE set, just wanted to make that clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Why do people reference a 2 TE Set every time a TE is mentioned in the draft like it's a viable gameplan? If our current TE is good enough we don't need to spend a high draft pick on another one. If he's not, turf him. First off, Boss is just good enough. The Patriots run two TE sets and its the reason their offense is so good. They drafted two guys last year and they have been dominate has rookies. Baltimore drafted two TE's last year and they have Heap, who's one of the elite TE's in the NFL. Pitta and Dickson will be their future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 First off, Boss is just good enough. The Patriots run two TE sets and its the reason their offense is so good. They drafted two guys last year and they have been dominate has rookies. Baltimore drafted two TE's last year and they have Heap, who's one of the elite TE's in the NFL. Pitta and Dickson will be their future They run a lot of 2 TE sets in the red zone because they have no running game to punch the ball in with but they don't see a huge amount of use outside that. I think Gronkowski has a TD every 4 receptions or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 we have a running game to punch the ball in???? 30% of the time if were lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 we have a running game to punch the ball in???? 30% of the time if were lucky Better than Belichek's Boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steitzenhaus Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I read that Ayers could possibly play any of the linebacker spots in a 4-3. I dont watch much college ball and I only start looking at prospects starting around this time of year. Any insight would be appreciated. If that scouting report is accurate he sounds like he could be a good option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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