gmenroc Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Good for the Ravens doing what the NFL wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Anyone willing to offer an over/under on the week some other team picks him up? EDIT: Nevermind, just saw that NFL suspended him indefinitely after the Ravens cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 This was the right move for the Ravens to make. Does anyone know how this affects his $40 million contract extension? I mean, he can't still get paid, can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 even if he wasn't suspended he was done anyway. the only team that was going to touch a running back who doesn't have it anymore already has maurice jones drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 They didn't cut him because he hit his wife, they cut him because the video came out. Not exactly the honorable move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 They didn't cut him because he hit his wife, they cut him because the video came out. Not exactly the honorable move. I get the feeling if they had seen the video from the beginning, they would have done the same thing. At least, I hope they would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 They didn't cut him because he hit his wife, they cut him because the video came out. Not exactly the honorable move. Yeah, but if you're looking at which parties smell the worst, behind Ray Rice comes the NFL... The NFL denies seing this part of the video prior to today...which I don't believe for second...but whatever. Two people were in the elevator and entered it...together...both conscious. Two people exited the elevator, one unconscious being dragged by the other. The NFL, and everyone else for that matter, knew damn well what went down. Agree 100% that he got suspended/cut because the video came out. The Ravens come out smelling pretty good, even though the cynic in me thinks they probably knew more and knew earlier than they'll ever let on. What happens now if Ray Rice somehow can prove that the NFL/Ravens had the newly released video all along? Would he then have legal recourse against outfits like TMZ who just released this video to the world for slandering his name? Would he have have any legal, double-jeopardy type, recourse against the NFL/Ravens if he were to prove they had this video earlier given he was already punished for this (despite the widely accepted 'too light' punishment assessment)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 This was the right move for the Ravens to make. Does anyone know how this affects his $40 million contract extension? I mean, he can't still get paid, can he? Thought I read that they won't have to pay him anything. NFL contracts aren't guaranteed afterall. I also believe the Ravens may have recourse to recoup some of his signing bonus...but as I just mentioned in my previous post...if the Ravens/NFL can be proven to have had the full video earlier...than the Ravens may simply decide not to pursue the signing bonus recoup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 dead money: 2014: 14.25 mil 2015: 9.5 mil 2016: 4.75 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 meanwhile the construction of the ray lewis statue is right on schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 dead money: 2014: 14.25 mil 2015: 9.5 mil 2016: 4.75 mil Cut from the ESPN article: Ravens coach John Harbaugh was expected to talk Monday night after practice. Rice had three years remaining on his contract at $4 million this season, $3 million next season and $3 million in 2016. The Ravens will not owe Rice any money. Rice's salary-cap number lowers from $8.75 million this season to $4.75 million. Next season, Rice would still be on the Ravens' cap for $9.5 million of dead money. His signing bonus proration is 4.75 million per year??? How the hell much was his signing bonus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 it was a 5 year 35 mil deal with 15 mil guaranteed. so 3 million signing bonus each year and the extra 1.75 mil is an option bonus that came with each remaining year of the contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 the ravens basically just added 6 mil to their cap hit this year, 1.75 mil to their cap next year and saved 3 mil in 2016. not sure what their cap situation was going into this season though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yeah I'm with Pdoub on this, if there was no video then nothing would of happened from the NFL or the Ravens. Let's not think the Giants are some untouchable team, I'm willing to bet there's current players on the team with bad issues that havent been made public yet. It's a publicity move in the end, if Rice was still the back he was four years ago the Ravens would be talking about how "He's going through community out reach programs to become a better man" It's a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yeah I'm with Pdoub on this, if there was no video then nothing would of happened from the NFL or the Ravens. Let's not think the Giants are some untouchable team, I'm willing to bet there's current players on the team with bad issues that havent been made public yet. It's a publicity move in the end, if Rice was still the back he was four years ago the Ravens would be talking about how "He's going through community out reach programs to become a better man" It's a joke. I also agree “Ravens didn't penalize Ray Rice for violence against women,” tweeted Newsweek’s Alexander Nazaryan. “They penalized him for getting caught on camera.” The league holds that it did not see the video before penalizing Rice with a two-game suspension, but sports writer Jason LaConfora suggests they didn't need to: Rice gave them an accurate depiction of events and didn't "sugarcoat" it: “The NFL needs us to believe it did not see that video, because it needs a public relations answer to it,” wrote ThinkProgress’ Travis Waldron. "The idea that the league used this video in its determination of Rice’s suspension undermines the message that the league cares about and takes violence against women seriously,” he wrote, “a message Goodell has tried to send" since he admitted that an earlier two game suspension of Rice was too lenient. “Nothing happened today that the NFL and the Ravens didn’t already know,” reads a blog post at Hot Air. “The only thing that changed is that the public, which more or less tolerates domestic abuse by celebrities in the abstract, got a concrete example of how brutal it can be.” With all that said, he'll be back in the NFL faster than Vick or Burress. Players and teams alike will tell you Ray Rice is a changed man and a great guy. Ray Rice will have just one big game and the fans will forgive and forget as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Hmm. Wonder how long his wife will stick around now that Ray isn't picking up a paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 They didn't cut him because he hit his wife, they cut him because the video came out. Not exactly the honorable move. Yeah exactly, haha. This wasn't an honorable move. It was a face-saving move. I don't understand how, like Harbaugh says, that the video made it worse and changes perspectives. Dude, he was guilty, he admitted to punching her, she was clearly knocked unconscious, and he's an NFL football player. What the fuck did you expect to see? Other than a fucking knockout punch? The video confirms what any idiot already knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Ray Rice's career was done last year, though. There was no reason to have him on that team, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Hmm. Wonder how long his wife will stick around now that Ray isn't picking up a paycheck. While there are women who are in it just for the money, let's hold off on criticizing the victim of domestic abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 While there are women who are in it just for the money, let's hold off on criticizing the victim of domestic abuse. I feel bad for her... she got her ass beat down, and now she doesn't even have her meal ticket anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I feel bad for her... she got her ass beat down, and now she doesn't even have her meal ticket anymore. Leaving him, and suing for every last dime would be the best thing she can do for herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 that would be an interesting divorce case since she still married him after it happened but now wants to divorce him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yeah exactly, haha. This wasn't an honorable move. It was a face-saving move. I don't understand how, like Harbaugh says, that the video made it worse and changes perspectives. Dude, he was guilty, he admitted to punching her, she was clearly knocked unconscious, and he's an NFL football player. What the fuck did you expect to see? Other than a fucking knockout punch? The video confirms what any idiot already knew. Exactly. I think this was an intentional leak. The NFL didn't expect such a large backlash from his suspension and needed a way to shit can him. Voila, suddenly a video shows what the team and league already knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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