Lubeck Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8364800...ockey-to-Saints Sources: Giants to trade Shockey to Saints by Jay Glazer The Giants have agreed to trade their disgruntled tight end to the New Orleans Saints for a second-round pick and a fifth-round pick, FOXSports.com has learned. The deal is pending league approval, according to a league source. Shockey must also pass a physical. The compensation is the same the Saints offered New York back in April prior and during to the draft ... and it was turned down. The move comes one day after Jason Taylor was traded from Miami to New York's NFC East rivals in Washington. According to a report on SI.com, the Giants had held discussions about a three-team trade in which they would have ended up with Taylor, the Saints would have landed Shockey and the Dolphins would have received a pair of draft picks. The emergence of rookie Kevin Boss during the Giants' improbable Super Bowl run — a stretch Shockey missed due to a broken leg — made Shockey expendable. Boss started six games after Shockey's injury (two regular season and all four during the Giants' postseason run), making nine catches for 140 yards and a TD. Shockey's attitude made the move somewhat necessary as the Giants sought to avoid distractions from their bid to repeat as Super Bowl champions. During the team's recent minicamp, Shockey reportedly engaged in a shouting match with GM Jerry Reese, just the latest controversy involving the outspoken former first-round pick out of the University of Miami. Shockey's absence in Phoenix during the Super Bowl was conspicuous to say the least. According to some reports, one of the many sources of Shockey's displeasure with the team was that he was not allowed to stand on the team's sidelines during the game. In the past, Shockey also had less-than-complimentary things to say about his quarterback, Eli Manning. In fact, many have theorized that Manning's transformation from a middle-of-the-pack quarterback to a Super Bowl MVP was facilitated by Shockey's absence. I hope this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Oh fuck no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 The emergence of rookie Kevin Boss during the Giants' improbable Super Bowl run OMG!!!!!!!!!! He had 13 catches all year..... 4 coming the playoffs, along with 4 drops. Jesus Christ!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Don't let the door hit you on your ass, Shockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 While Shockey was an undeniable talent, with how things were at minicamp and how things have played out in the media I for one was fully expecting a Chad Johnsonesqe situation at training camp and am relieved that there is no chance of that. Especially since Shockey would drag Plax into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 OMG!!!!!!!!!! He had 13 catches all year..... 4 coming the playoffs, along with 4 drops. Jesus Christ!!!! Yeah but those four catches facilitated Eli's "transformation"! What a fucking pile of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I honestly have mixed feelings about this, I've always been a Shockey fan but it may have just been time for him to go, with the shouting match shit and all the other stuff. He just wasn't fitting on the team. Goodluck Shock, Boss you better step the fuck up. But a 2nd and 5th? C'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 i bet reese talked to shockey within the last few days and figured there's no way in hell he was gonna be a good boy for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 He was neither the Second Coming; nor is this an insurmountable loss. Should he be traded at this point no; will we regret it....I doubt it. Though I would have liked for him to come back at least one more year...shut up and silence his critics with his play. It looks like he will be doing that for the Aints. Some marriages end on simple things like miscommunication....and this seems to be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleEye Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Boss is not gonna produce like Shockey. Mark my words this is gonna hurt our ofensive scheme. No defensive coordinator will look at Boss as much as he would Shockey. Bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 He was neither the Second Coming; nor is this an insurmountable loss. Should he be traded at this point no; will we regret it....I doubt it. Though I would have liked for him to come back at least one more year...shut up and silence his critics with his play. It looks like he will be doing that for the Aints. Some marriages end on simple things like miscommunication....and this seems to be one of them. Exactly...it seems he wore out his welcome in New York. Sad to see him gone, but this means we get to see more of Smith, Moss and Manningham. Shockey didn't want to block, that's what a tight end does..so he can go fuck himself for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlb37 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 2nd and a 5th doesn't really seem like enough in the way of compensation but I guess the Taylor trade set the market value. Reese must have really wanted him gone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I hope Plaxico enjoys the constant double coverage he's going to recieve. I think the good draft pick Reese had last year has gone to his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleEye Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Exactly...it seems he wore out his welcome in New York. Sad to see him gone, but this means we get to see more of Smith, Moss and Manningham. Shockey didn't want to block, that's what a tight end does..so he can go fuck himself for that. Moss will not be a Giant after training camp. Shockey was a good blocker for us, so I dont know wtf your talkin about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Boss is not gonna produce like Shockey. Mark my words this is gonna hurt our ofensive scheme. No defensive coordinator will look at Boss as much as he would Shockey. Bad move. <_> More balls go to Smith, Moss and Manningham now. I'm not in the least bit worried about this situation. I'm pretty sure the Giants won the Superbowl without Shockey, they can play without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Moss will not be a Giant after training camp. Shockey was a good blocker for us, so I dont know wtf your talkin about. I can pretty much guarantee Moss will be a Giant after training camp. Give up on a 2nd round pick this early? Shockey was a good blocker for the Giants yes, he just bitched about doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Exactly...it seems he wore out his welcome in New York. Sad to see him gone, but this means we get to see more of Smith, Moss and Manningham. Shockey didn't want to block, that's what a tight end does..so he can go fuck himself for that. Shockey is without a doubt one of the best blocking TE in the league. He major concern was how he was being used in the passing game. Now he's going to a coach that understands TE can do more than 3 yard curls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleEye Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I can pretty much guarantee Moss will be a Giant after training camp. Give up on a 2nd round pick this early? Shockey was a good blocker for the Giants yes, he just bitched about doing it. 2 years is not early after he never played a full year. He's out. Put moneyon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Shockey was a good blocker for us, so I dont know wtf your talkin about. He was a good blocker, but he didn't like doing it and bitched about it to the coaching staff. That is what he is talking about. As for the concerns about Shockey being out of the lineup affecting the offensive production, defensive coordinators will focus more on Burress and company. But they weren't after Shockey was injured? Now I am not trying to say the offense was better without him, even though a strong case could be made that that is true, all I am saying is that his lost production and presence on the field did not make the offense worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Shockey is without a doubt one of the best blocking TE in the league. He major concern was how he was being used in the passing game. Now he's going to a coach that understands TE can do more than 3 yard curls. Oh Jesus fucking Christ with the "3 yard curl routes" SHUT THE FUCK UP with that shit. Tight Ends have two jobs and one of them was to block, Shockey didn't want to do that. Tough shit Jeremy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Well Boss better step the fuck up then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 2 years is not early after he never played a full year. He's out. Put moneyon it. I would have agreed with that before Shockey was traded, but I think they carry one less TE then they would have (Matthews and Boss) and carry one extra WR, Moss. The offense will spend a lot of training camp working in more 3 WR sets to get a receiving threat on the field to replace Shockey. At least that is what I would be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Oh Jesus fucking Christ with the "3 yard curl routes" SHUT THE FUCK UP with that shit. Tight Ends have two jobs and one of them was to block, Shockey didn't want to do that. Tough shit Jeremy. hes going to get hurt by week 7 anyway. this is not the same shockey. considering hes lost a step and is getting up there in age we basically got a 2nd round pick for a glorified blocking TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Please find the quote where Shockey bitched about blocking. The quote, not the rumour. Shockey was one of the better blocking TEs in the league and our offensive production, and Eli's confidence which was proven to be pivotable in our success, are not better served by his absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 2 years is not early after he never played a full year. He's out. Put moneyon it. Yeah, I keep forgetting half of the posters here wanted to release Eli Manning after the playoffs in 2005 because he fell off in the 2nd half of that season. If the Giants didn't give up on Corey Webster, they aren't going to give up on Moss just this second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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