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Every team is more or less as good or as bad as their record indicates. The problem is you watch the Giants every week. And you miss a lot of other games where other teams suck major balls. How do you think the fans of every team aside from the Pats, Colts, Boys, and Packers feel? Probably worse than us... we are 7-4 and that's exactly what we are.

Randoff and Nesta are trading arguments. Both make compelling cases for the glass being half full vs the glass being half empty. I happened to believe the Giants just played terrible. To dig a little deeper, or D allowed 13 points (I'm assuming the vikes didn't score more than 41.. that's when I stopped watching). Our D played very well then. Eli gave them 28 points. I don't know if it's the cold weather but the receivers seemed to be wearing boxing gloves and Eli threw ducks all day. Put this game behind us. We're 7-3 (not great Nesta).. we're 7-3 (we don't suck Randoff). We are who we think we are.. a middle of the pack team who can get lucky and something great this year.. or can get unlucky and suck so bad.

I'm trying hard to put a positive spin on our crash-landing... :brooding:

Let's not hit the panic button guys. The Jets beat the steelers; does that mean the steelers suck? No I'm not excusing our performance today.. lack thereof really. This is so unlike the Giants we know. We sucked so bad I hope this game gets the suckyness out of the teams system. God watching this game was atrocious...

Let's hope we can go into half time with the same score. This has been an awful half of football.. and it's not over yet.

I'm pulling my hair out again

Thanks for reminding me why I was pulling my hair out around this time 5 years ago. :brooding:

No. He plays better when the ball is very catchable and we're playing shit teams. When people like TO are on the opposite sideline, Plax fades.

Because the fucking coaches feel the need to play the overpriced guys. That's why. Mix is as talented if not more talented than Plax. At least that's my opinion.

Insurance till one of them gets back. We're down to 2 RBs (Droughens and Bradshaw)

Do what you like. Personally I don't like Barber. Heck, I don't like football jersies alltogether.

Yes he can. Did you see how much props the defense was giving him? Aside from the win, Moss was a bright spot. Some of specifically asked for Moss to be given more touches... I'm beginning to think they're reading this forum.

It did look awful. The injury that happened to me a few years back was very similar in the way my leg was positioned but it was a knee that fell on it like a hammer. I guess with Kiwi it matters whether whatever landed on it was a soft tissue or not... something like the hard part of the shoulder pad and what not. It looked awful indeed.

Not sure if anyone said it but on Channel 7 last night they said Kiwi is out for the season. That's something I expected as soon as I heared of the nature of his injury.

Plax is inconsistant. I don't think it has anything to do with the alleged injury. Shut him down or not.. I don't care. I feel we can go with Mix, Toomer, and Moss and we'd still be just as effective. Plax is overhyped...

Does it really matter? Isn't ranking a matter of opinion anyway? Hopefully an educated one? The Jets played well against the Steelers but that doesn't mean the Steelers suck... or not better than us. Right now I think the Giants are 2nd in the NFC behind the cowboys. I know I should be giving more props to GB... but eh.. I'm a Giants fan. They take 3rd place for now.

That's exactly it. In an effort to milk the clock, it seems our team gets cold feet.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.

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If it's up to me, it would Mix, Toomer, and Moss on the field.. Mix = Plax for less money.

As much as I love the guy, yes he does look like he lost a step. But again that was the point of drafting Steve Smith.

I think there's a subtle message in the article that says: Give Moss more touches. He can't produce if he's on the sidelines.

I think you're putting too much emphasis on catches made in the end zone. He's a WR and he's 6 5".. that's what he's getting paid for.