CrazedDogs

That will change. Chip Kelly is no moron, his name "Chip" not withstanding.

I think Bromley was inactive this week, may be a little dinged up. But I've seen him flash a few times now, I really like what I see. Early returns on this rookie class are very good. Reese was due to hit on some of these guys.

lol, I'm guessing he wouldn't have been the first Giant to nail a Mara daughter. thats some good analysis Herc, nice work. IMO, that pretty much settles the argument on Nicks' stats this season.

your lying eyes are less likely to lie....

yeah, I'm not saying he sucks. I'm actually surprised he doesn't get more reps, he looks like a beast this year. I thought the Colts would be splitting their WR reps three ways. But I'm a fan, so what do I know... if the Colts think Wayne/Hilton gives them a better chance to win, then until proven otherwise I'm going to assume they know what they're doing. But I'm not so sure that this degree of irrational confidence is all that common. Frequently you'll see comments to the effect of 'I want to be the best' and 'I'm working to be the best', but Nicks just did the full Sherman. And that does not sync up with the public image he cultivated in his time with the Giants, which is why I question if there's a little more about his personality to the decision to let him walk than it was injury history or work ethic, or any of the other largely theories that we fans have put out there. I don't say this to crap on the guy... nobody that knows football ever thought Cruz was a better receiver on the field than Nicks. But Cruz got the contract. My reaction at the time was a big WTF, but since then we've seen a season in which Nicks played with no fire, and now this TO-esque 'I'm the greatest' bullshit?.... I don't think he's playing himself out of the league, but I am starting to wonder if he is talking himself out of the league.

Its implied he's playing poorly, but I've seen some Indianapolis games this year, and IMO Nicks is playing well - looks a lot better to me than he did in 2013. But he's the 3rd best receiver on a team with good receivers. As for the 'best receiver' argument, I refer you to the original post in this thread.... Yes, someone has argued against it, and his name is Hakeem Nicks. Maybe I'm reading too much into his comments, but I wonder if maybe now we have a bit more insight on why the Giants were willing to let him walk...

No, because Randle is an emotionally fragile little bitch.

All I have to say about ODB is this: now I get it.

Nobody is moving any goal posts --- Nicks is arguing that he's the best receiver in the league.

I don't think he even knew teams had figured him out. I am convinced that defenses were baiting the receivers last season; it looked to me like they knew what the options were and lined up to force the route that they wanted the receiver to run. Is this really a Will Beatty is awesome thread? Cool. Now I've seen everything.

Beat me to it. I just want to say, for all the ugly throws we've seen Eli make over the years, 2011 was the finest performance by a QB I've ever seen. The defense always seems to get casual credit, I guess because JPP came on the scene, but they were actually average at best in 2011. And the offense had a rapidly fading offensive line, running backs who weren't what they once were; they weren't the '99 Rams by any means. That championship was the Eli/Cruz/Nicks show, and many of the throws that Eli made that season, deep down field, while under duress, were remarkable. Eli carried that team and should have won the league MVP, in my opinion.

Fred Robbins... man, what an underrated player he was. I did forget he was hurt, but you're right, he was a big factor in the late fade that season too.

I went back and looked, he's been to a couple more pro bowls than I thought. So, maybe....

doubt it, but he's real good when he's out there.

I think 2008 was going down the tubes regardless of Plaxico. Remember what the linebackers looked like by the end of that season? Antonio Pierce lost the last step he had to spare somewhere in the first half of the season, and the defense was getting chewed up by short, quick passes.

Its not my baby, but I don't think this is a Giants site by definition. IMO, the more teams represented here, the better.

I actually meant a hypothetical future-HOF offensive lineman that the Eagles don't actually have. But Bowman is a beast.... don't know if he's a HOF player, but he's a beast.

well, that depends on just how bad the calls are. I'd love to see review applied to flags. Seen the refs beat a team way too many times.

I'm sure it did, but the 49ers were missing All Pro caliber players too. Pretty sure Aldon Smith brings more to the table than any offensive lineman you could put on the field, outside of a future hall of famer.

Discuss away, should keep us busy for a while. The Giants have plenty of shortcomings these days. I'm under no delusion that the Giants are the class of the division. Happy to see some potential from the Giants, and some fresh weaknesses out of Philly while I'm at it, but convincing wins against weak opposition don't get me very excited. And then there's the agony of a surprising Cowboys team... ugh. Anybody but Dallas.

Not if we're having an intelligent discussion, we don't. In a 3 or 4 game sample size, things like referee errors can matter a lot. It will even out in the long run, which is exactly the reason I bring it up. (I actually thought the Eagles got the short end of the stick yesterday, but probably not enough to swing the game.)

Hope he doesn't. He's a gifted thrower of the football. When he isn'tt making idiotic decisions he's making some beautiful throws.

true... my impression was that I was watching two middling teams. It was kind of a good game, but it wasn't exactly playoff caliber football either.

thats one of the plays I'm thinking of, although I don't think that one was designed to go left. No shame in losing to a good team on the road, but reports before the game were that the 49ers defense was decimated by injury. But I don't really know much about the 49ers this year though, so I don't know, that may be just ESPN bullshit.

Yeah, the blocking was bad, but I'm referring to some runs that were designed to go to the perimeter... repeatedly, 49ers defenders were beating McCoy to the corner, and made McCoy look slow while doing so. I don't know if thats entirely a blocking thing, you can't count on blockers getting to the second level and walling out linebackers on those perimeter runs - if they do, great, but thats a speed play, there should be a few yards to be had even if the linebackers come free, just so long as the play side receiver(s) don't shit the bed. So I figured McCoy had turned an ankle or something, because I'd never seen that happen to that slippery SOB before. Not like that.