CrazedDogs

good point, I didn't think it was that bad. But if we're using QBR, Total QBR has that factored in already... and rates him as above average despite his struggles in a rush situation. I think he'll improve in that area though.

On the bright side, he's suspended to start the season. 12 games of Hosely is better than 16 games of Hosely.

I disagree. I watch a lot of Bengals football, I never thought he was that bad against the blitz. And he's fairly mobile too, he can still improve in that area. Dalton is better than Kaepernick, hands down. And he may not be as good as the others on that list, but he's younger and still improving. If I were a GM, factoring in that contract and his age, I would take Dalton over every single one of the guys on that list except Aaron Rodgers. And maybe Flacco. Not saying the guy is a hall of famer... just that there aren't that many young, good-enough QBs. I didn't think anyone except McCarron thought he was going compete to be a starter. That guy screamed backup to me. Nice looking girlfriend though, I'll give him that.

If he's in the last year of his contract, he wouldn't cost much in terms of draft picks. Figure if Beason was a 6th, Spiller is probably a 4th.

That contract isn't better than average for a starting QB... I wager that if we look at all the contracts that starting QBs have signed over the last three or four years, Dalton makes the least. And those stats aren't merely for the 'past three years'.... they're for his first three years. Last season is a far better barometer of the player he's going to be than his rookie season.

kick the tires. Could be worth tossing a pick depending on his contract situation.

eh.... his production, at his relatively tender age... it ain't great, but it ain't average either. Sure... thats the going rate for a young starting caliber QB. If they don't resign Dalton to this extension, then they're getting a new QB from the draft or free agency - there are no free agents who are better for less money, and the draft is a total crap shoot.

Dalton isn't bad. He's not Luck.... but he could be Brees.

Very sad. I don't think I've ever seen a player who loved the game more than David Wilson.

poor kid.

oh, so Bleedin disappears, and suddenly you find the Giants board? Hmmmmm....

Its kind of weird, he runs a real slow looking 4.6-something in the video. So I'm watching the highlights and note the lack of explosiveness or suddenness.... but then I think back to how slow he looked running sub-4.7. I guess some people just look slow even when they're moving pretty fast. Dude is probably roster filler though. Terrible sign if we see him starting this season.

daaaamn!

Dude.

true, Hoss's balls deserved their own zip code. But I never saw anything from Hoss that indicated to me that he was a better player than Simms, who wasn't exactly testicularly challenged either.

I have no problem with the guy. He's just making a living. And if Simms is healthy through Super Bowl 25, the Giants don't need wide right to win that game - they win it going away.

agreed. He'll be a broke ass in under three years.

I really thought the Giants would keep him... ten games of Will Hill is better than 16 games of anybody else they'll be able to find between now and the season. But can't argue with the Giants on this... his "secondhand smoke" story is pathetic. Lost a lot of respect for Will Hill when I heard that.

The alternative being suicide?

dude, no.

Isn't that that kind of like saying "my car is really reliable, when it isn't broken down"?

::flashes back to Ike Hilliard::

Is Austin still with the Giants? Pascoe was/is a damn good football player. Very sub par athlete by NFL standards though.

I'm not buying that this is a much better QB class. Of this class, the only guy I've seen enough of to form an opinion is Bridgewater, and I think he's incredibly overrated. His pocket presence is poor, and I was struck at how badly he folded or panicked when pressured. So I'm just going off that, take it for what its worth - which is not much - but still, I'm not seeing how this is a better QB class than last year. Because if they're all on par with Bridgewater, then none of these guys are real NFL QB prospects.

LOL, if thats for real, how did that not make the board? He signed with the Jets. Should be a good fit - a head case loser signs with a team of head case losers.