BlueInCanada

There's a stigma on these boards that a first round pick needs to be a pro-bowler every single year they are in the league and in the HOF after they retire. Anyone after the first round it doesn't matter.

Kiwi would of made a better 3-4 LB or just being converted to a LB from day one. He was never a good DE, he lacked speed to get around the right side and lacked strength to bull rush the left side. Like you said he would of made a better LB, he was quick enough to get to the ball on run plays and he would have the advantage of not having to go toe-to-toe with a tackle if he has to rush the QB. He's never been that pro-bowl talent but he has been on the team and contributed for more than four seasons, which is much more than most first round picks can do for a team now a days.

What it says to me is; Hey were not the Redskins, we are going to be throwing the DC, special teams coach, a bunch of assistant coaches, the strength and condition staff out the door, along with a roster turnover and maybe even firing the head of scouting. The last thing any new HC or GM needs is to come into a team during chaos and no stability what so ever, that's not how this organization has or ever will be run, once again they arnt the Redskins who get to drown any coach they bring in, in nothing but constant coach and roster turnover. What the team does need is stability until the time comes when Coughlin is "retired" and JR tires to prove himself, no blame is passed but the Giant's can continue to build a team suitable for the next HC to come in, much like the team EA built for Coughlin and Eli to come in and lead.

This is great. I imagine Snyder is going ape shit over something so small though.

Well considering all of your "I hate football now a days" post I'm just surprised you're even watching this season at all. Plus. http://firstrowca.eu/ http://cricfree.sx/sky-sports-1-live-stream-01.php Free streaming, no need to pay.

TC and JR arnt going anywhere this off season, or they are atleast not going to get fired. TC may retire if he figures he doesnt want to go through another rebuilding process. Mara/Tisch are going to give JR a chance to bring in his own HC (if Coughlin retires) as well as a chance to shake up the roster/coaches/whatever to try and rebuild the team. Fewell is the only guy I can actually see being "fired" at the end of the season. And no, The Chin isnt the answer, much like Gruden he's enjoying his time in the broadcast both making millions spouting football knowledge, and I've never thought his teams were anything special and could never finish in the playoffs, outside of paying refs to beat the Seahawks. He was carried by Dick Lebaus defense during that SB win and outside of that his defenses were nothing special.

You've obviously never seen VG on valentines day. Sorry VG, that was very un-Canadian of me.

Not to mention if anything to "avoid being injured" he shouldn't even be playing at all, by the same logic he shouldn't be returning punts. Hixon, Cruz, Smith, Nicks all went down on IR, not by returning punts or kicks but just playing regular offensive snaps. If anything Beckham should stop being played on offense and just be allowed to return punts. When's the last time anyone has seen a returner go down on IR from a punt return when compared to WRs getting hurt on a regular play?

"Why is he doing this in practive he can hurt his toe" "Obviously old man Coughlin would be stupid enough to let him do this and risk injury" "Why the fuck isn't he wrapped in a plastic bubble, with five armed guards and his mom escorting him around the practice field" Or whatever else people might say.

You know what else I would take if we had a top 5 pick. A DE like JJ Watt. Is this anything this corn fed mountain of a man can't do? Imagine a player like him on the D-line......

I don't see why people believe that Coughlin thought everything was fine or he was forced to fire someone than hire whoever he wants. If anything it's JR/Coughlin's call on who gets the boot and who gets fired. Coughlin has never been the GM/HC/OC all rolled into one lik Bilichek or McCarthy, who have a lot of free reign on how the team is run and who gets drafted. I'm not trying to defend the guy, it's just one year he's the most controlling HC in the world, the next he has no control on the team and JR has to do his job, the next year he has control over who gets hired and fired, the next he's in control of every last part of the team, according to the fans.

You know I try to think of this as well, but I think it's just a combination of both Coughlin and a brand new first time OC. In fact this article has some interesting quotes. http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2014/11/tom_coughlin_or_ben_mcadoo_responsible_for_giants_goal-line_play-calling.html So I don't know it seems like Coughlin gives him all the room in the world, like the article said allowing McAdoo to call three fade calls, but he does still have input. I still think he gives McAdoo all the room in the world but I think the leash is getting shorter and shorter as McAdoo seems to go full fucking stupid on some series.

Yeah it's hard to say with top 10, even top 5 picks, it's almost more of a burden than anything else. I mean with the benching of RG the Third, people are saying that 2012 draft class the only first round pick worth a damn was Luck and that LB Carolina has. I just don't see the Giant's getting another first round WR, unless he's going to be the next Calvin Johnson, and even than if I had to chose between the next Ray Lewis or Calvin Johnson for the Giant's right now, I would probably go with the LB. But at the same time I'm from the school of thought that if you have a top 5 pick and there's no one there that every single expert is claiming he will be the next great thing, you trade back and get picks. Far to often these top five-ten picks end up being nothing but a waste of time for teams.

I think you can get a solid WR in the second round though, the Giant's have gotten value out of that round anyways with WRs, Smith, Randle. I think if a top 10 pick is what's in store for the Giant's they take a leader on the defense (if there is any worth that spot). Get a Patrick Willis or Ray Lewis, someone who is going to be on the defense for the next 10+ years who is going to lead the team. Start getting some more leadership and core players on the team, WRs seem to leave the Giant's faster then they can draft them.

I just can't see Mara pulling a Snyder and clearing house in one season. If anything Fewell gets the boot at the end of this season and maybe JR or Coughlin next season depending on results. JR and Coughlin will get another season at the helm and I'm sure they'll make the right pick. I think if Coughlin gets fired you will see JR get fired as well because it will be a while new regime change, I'm sure Coughlin will get a FO job though, heck maybe he even stays on as an assistant.

A new HC? And trading for Eli? And who did we lose in FA, Collins? I wouldn't call that a major overhaul.

Mara won't do it, the Giants have never really pulled the pin and blown up an entire team. And I'm glad they don't do it, last thing we need is to become the Redskins 2.0.

I'm still willing to give him a couple seasons much like Mara will, but I still don't understand has this guy never called or game planned for a full complete four quarters in his coaching career? Was he just some assistant who took notes in Green Bay but never really did anything? On top of that what the fuck did Mara/JR/Coughlin see in the guy during the interview? Was his game plan using a copy of the newest Madden to show how fancy and fast paced the offence can be? Is it the players? Is his scheme so off the wall fucking sophisticated that we needs to re-build the entire offense so that it works for him? Sure injuries play a part but we started the game firing on all cylinders then decided to revert to pop-warner trick plays and delayed hand offs.

Cant stay on top forever. You could become a Pats fan though. Sounds like you need a break.

Well when your defensive scheme relies on you having a HoF DE and such a wealth of talent along the D-line that no opposing QB has any time to set up and deliver, you arn't going to be able to use it on many team in the NFL. Glad he was here, glad he was able to help lead the team to a SB win, but it's not like Spags was any sort of Dick Lebeau.

Bad enough to have Colt McCoy be the Redskins future QB. I have a couple buddies who are redskins fans, they have told me ever since RG3 has been out of Shannys gimmick offense (and not on the injured list as well) he's basically regressed in every aspect a QB can. I'll tell you what though if RG3 is on another team next offseason he'll go down as the biggest draft bust in history. Trading away what? Three first round picks and a third? For a guy who was on your team for three years.

I think he's off the team just in FA alone.

Not saying Gilly was better. But he was the OC. Settle down Nancy.

Gilly was the OC. Just saying.

People can bash GIlly all they want but the guy knew how to run the offense when they were down in the fourth. I still say it's just the fact that McAdoodles still hasnt had any experience calling or even running offenses as a coach before this, he's never had to come up with a two minute drive to win the game yet. McAttack will be here for a few more seasons at the very least, I can see three or four more. Mara needs ticket money and turning the team over every other season doesn't help. That and he isnt Snyder who pushes the "FUCK it lets be irrelevant for another five seasons button" at every losing season. Just like I still believe JR/Coughlin are still on the team next season, the Giant's fire Fewell and hire someone internally for DC.