BlueInCanada Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 10 tackles, 16 assists, 1.5 sacks. Guess the Giant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Leonard Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Sephiroth said: Leonard Williams? Someone get this man a cookie. Guys one of the highest paid defenders in the NFL and bottom of the NFL in stats. Should of saved that money resigned Tomlinson and a capable Olineman backup atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 not sure what you're talking about, Williams is playing well. He'll get more production when we get quality play from the nose tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, CrazedDogs said: not sure what you're talking about, Williams is playing well. He'll get more production when we get quality play from the nose tackle. He's a non factor in many games. He's making as much money as the Bosas and Watts of the NFL with none of the production. Dude should be making half of what he is. And your right we should of kept Tomlinson who was apparently more of a factor to this defense than Williams was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Friendly reminder that BJ Hill has 3 sacks in 5 games, and our run defense has also been atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said: He's a non factor in many games. He's making as much money as the Bosas and Watts of the NFL with none of the production. Dude should be making half of what he is. And your right we should of kept Tomlinson who was apparently more of a factor to this defense than Williams was. yeah, I'm afraid that Tomlinson was the glue holding Graham's D together. I don't agree that Williams is a non-factor though. He's not beating double teams, but.... he is getting double teamed, which in itself is impactful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, CrazedDogs said: not sure what you're talking about, Williams is playing well. He'll get more production when we get quality play from the nose tackle. 2 hours ago, BlueInCanada said: He's a non factor in many games. He's making as much money as the Bosas and Watts of the NFL with none of the production. Dude should be making half of what he is. And your right we should of kept Tomlinson who was apparently more of a factor to this defense than Williams was. You both are right... he's a good player but not good enough to warrant the price tag... that's life in the NFL when you don't draft well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 My thing is we are paying this defense over 115 million this year. And we are ranked 25th in total defense and 28th in yards allowed. Williams is part of this defense and is doing nothing to help these numbers while eating up 26 million dollars. Fire DG, fire the coaches. Start this shit over because clearly it isn't working these last four years. 16 wins in four years boys. 16. 4 a year lol "Trust the process not the results" - the idiot we call a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, BlueInCanada said: My thing is we are paying this defense over 115 million this year. And we are ranked 25th in total defense and 28th in yards allowed. Williams is part of this defense and is doing nothing to help these numbers while eating up 26 million dollars. Fire DG, fire the coaches. Start this shit over because clearly it isn't working these last four years. 16 wins in four years boys. 16. 4 a year lol "Trust the process not the results" - the idiot we call a head coach. Again with starting over... it's not a pizza... We have plenty of good players out there... we're missing pieces which will need to then get it together... Starting over with who exactly? Another new guy who will be the subject of ire barely into his 2nd season... again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, BlueInCanada said: My thing is we are paying this defense over 115 million this year. And we are ranked 25th in total defense and 28th in yards allowed. Williams is part of this defense and is doing nothing to help these numbers while eating up 26 million dollars. Fire DG, fire the coaches. Start this shit over because clearly it isn't working these last four years. 16 wins in four years boys. 16. 4 a year lol "Trust the process not the results" - the idiot we call a head coach. That means there are 7 defenses worse than ours! 7! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Nas said: Again with starting over... it's not a pizza... We have plenty of good players out there... we're missing pieces which will need to then get it together... Starting over with who exactly? Another new guy who will be the subject of ire barely into his 2nd season... again... We do not have plenty of good players out there. If we did we wouldn't be the worst team in football the last 10 years. We act as if Judge has done something special here, or that DG is ok the right track. Shurmur and MacAttack both had better records than Judge by this point with lesser talent IMO. A new guy means a new GM. The problem with this team is they should of let DG go once Shurmur was gone. Now Judge is thrown into a cluster fuck he can't fix because he isn't a good enough head coach. You don't bring in a GM and force him to keep the HC that's what bad teams do. If the new GM wants a new HC then there should be no hesitation letting Judge go because I ask again what has Judge done exactly to show he's a good HC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 hours ago, BronxRik said: That means there are 7 defenses worse than ours! 7! Hard to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I would just like to point out that Markus Golden has 10 sacks in 10 games so far, and has a cap number less than $2M (plus only about $3M next year). Nearly twice the amount of sacks as Williams, and far more than 3rd rounders Lorenzo Carter and Ximines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 11 hours ago, mastershake said: I would just like to point out that Markus Golden has 10 sacks in 10 games so far, and has a cap number less than $2M (plus only about $3M next year). Nearly twice the amount of sacks as Williams, and far more than 3rd rounders Lorenzo Carter and Ximines. I remember being upset we didn’t resign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 14 hours ago, mastershake said: I would just like to point out that Markus Golden has 10 sacks in 10 games so far, and has a cap number less than $2M (plus only about $3M next year). Nearly twice the amount of sacks as Williams, and far more than 3rd rounders Lorenzo Carter and Ximines. Another reason why Judge needs to hit the road with Gettleman. They're both terrible evaluators of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 So Williams elbow injury is rumored to be a season ender. Let's see what 26 million got us this year; 5.5 sacks and 63 tackles. BJ hill has 5.5 sacks as 41 tackles and only costs the Bengals 2.1 million dollars this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 FYI....BJ Hill now has as many sacks as Leonard Williams, and for ~$25M less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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