CrazedDogs Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Well now I see why you were amused. You had my point backwards, I wasn't saying it was intel gathering, it's more like intel pushing. Making the opposition think what you want them to think. What you were saying about establishing the run going forward is, from a play design/play calling standpoint, the same principle at work. Now, as for my addled brain, I'm not there yet, but give me a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Ideally, Id like to see three shots passed the goal line instead of zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 One other thing that worried me; I didn't think it was actually possible but the O's screen game seems to have gotten worse. WTF was going on out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 One other thing that worried me; I didn't think it was actually possible but the O's screen game seems to have gotten worse. WTF was going on out there? Well, according to NSA, everything that we do wrong, is merely a smokescreen so teams will think we are inept at those things. So, when they least expecti it (not in our time, perhaps) there will be a successful screen play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I'm tired of hearing about how great Jacksonville's D line is, as if it's some excuse for our O line. Our O line flat out stunk regardless, and if they don't get their act together, they're going to have issues with many defenses this year, such as the Cowboys, Eagles, Texans to name a few. Also, how about you game plan around that weakness? Instead of insisting on a disproportionate amount of power runs toward the middle, spread them out more. attack the flanks, especially with Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Well, according to NSA, everything that we do wrong, is merely a smokescreen so teams will think we are inept at those things. So, when they least expecti it (not in our time, perhaps) there will be a successful screen play. Lol! If only. Or maybe 2017 was a smokescreen for 2018?..... hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I'm tired of hearing about how great Jacksonville's D line is, as if it's some excuse for our O line. Our O line flat out stunk regardless, and if they don't get their act together, they're going to have issues with many defenses this year, such as the Cowboys, Eagles, Texans to name a few. Also, how about you game plan around that weakness? Instead of insisting on a disproportionate amount of power runs toward the middle, spread them out more. attack the flanks, especially with Barkley. What kills me is that I don't think I have seen Flowers have a worse game. And to read after the game his comments about not knowing what kind of player Campbell is, has left me thinking that he may be beyond hope. Wheeler wasn't good either though. I keyed in on him this preseason and saw a few plays from him that were comical. That cupboard is bare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Lol! If only. Or maybe 2017 was a smokescreen for 2018?..... hmmm... If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right. - Vince Lombardi ( or George Costanza) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 What kills me is that I don't think I have seen Flowers have a worse game. And to read after the game his comments about not knowing what kind of player Campbell is, has left me thinking that he may be beyond hope. Wheeler wasn't good either though. I keyed in on him this preseason and saw a few plays from him that were comical. That cupboard is bare. Yes those comments by Flowers are disconcerting. Unfortunately Wheeler is likely just as bad. I dont know what the answer is. Do we constantly slide help over to the right side in pass plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I'm tired of hearing about how great Jacksonville's D line is, as if it's some excuse for our O line. Our O line flat out stunk regardless, and if they don't get their act together, they're going to have issues with many defenses this year, such as the Cowboys, Eagles, Texans to name a few. Also, how about you game plan around that weakness? Instead of insisting on a disproportionate amount of power runs toward the middle, spread them out more. attack the flanks, especially with Barkley. Isn't that basically what they did all game? Most runs and passes were to the outside. I mean you can't always just keep running outside you have to eventually go up the middle. But in terms of the Oline I think Shurmur did everything he could to keep the the offense on the outside mostly, especially running the bootleg which is where I think Eli is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Here's a nice breakdown of Barkley's first game. And hey, what do you know.... there ARE some nice plays by Flowers in here. https://247sports.com/nfl/new-york-giants/LongFormArticle/Saquon-Barkley-New-York-Giants-Week-1-highlights-game-tape--121803159/#121803159_12 5.28 yards per carry.... AFTER contact. Jesus.... What really stands out to me are some of the plays by Jacksonville's defense. But for some ridiculous plays by some really talented players, I think Barkley would have had 200+ yards on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Yes, the downplaying of the jags around here is a real head scratcher. Tune in Sunday at 430 and watch them smash New England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 We will all continue to root for Flowers of course, but even if hes OKAY 90% of the time, outside that he cant have these 5-6 plays per game where hes a complete disaster and primary driver of ruining or shortening the offensive series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Yes, the downplaying of the jags around here is a real head scratcher. Tune in Sunday at 430 and watch them smash New EnglandJags vs Rams in Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Im not buying the Jags hype just yet. Their offense was completely inept against our very average defense. In general they gave us multiple opportunities to win the game. And lets be real...we are likely an 8-8, 7-9 Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I think we are past the hype stage when youre a bad call away from the super bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Yes, the downplaying of the jags around here is a real head scratcher. Tune in Sunday at 430 and watch them smash New England It's not so much downplaying as much as let's not get too crazy here... We have some serious talent on offense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Yes, the downplaying of the jags around here is a real head scratcher. Tune in Sunday at 430 and watch them smash New England Oh I will, as a football fan I'm more excited to watch that game than I am to watch my Giants play down to a Cowboys team in flux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I think we are past the hype stage when youre a bad call away from the super bowl what call was that again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 It's not so much downplaying as much as let's not get too crazy here... We have some serious talent on offense.... So do the Falcons and they looks like they are going 2-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I think we are past the hype stage when youre They WERE a bad call away from the super bowl Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 what call was that again? #MylesJackWasntDown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Fixed It was 2 games ago. Theyre returning almost the exact same team plus norwell, safarian-Jenkins and draft picks and their biggest free agent departure was out all season. Plus everyone was picking Houston to win their division this season. If anything theyre underhyped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Sefarian jenkins is a huge pickup for that team. Bortles def needs that short field option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Yeah hes going to be lethal in the red zone with all those roll outs and bootlegs they run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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