BleedinBlue Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Khaseem is having a little bit of a problem making his projected annual "pro-bowl" status and rookie of the year award. In two games, he has a whopping 1 tackle. On top of that, the Bears are giving him less and less playing time as he is having trouble being in the place he's supposed to be at when on the field. I don't think Greene was the answer to our linebacker problems. I believe Bosworth (who we cut) had more potential than Greene and I wish we still had him and grooming him for the future. Anyway....just had to throw that out here because of all the chatter about how missing out on Greene was the worst move we ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Paysinger has been great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Paysinger has been great I wouldn't label anyone our team "Great" so far this year... let alone a LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I wouldn't label anyone our team "Great" so far this year... let alone a LB. It's more on the DE's. Paysinger has actually been a bright spot that no one notices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 A link to support the OPs argument would be helpful. Right now Greene's biggest crime is backing up one of the best OLBs in football. Until then he is a regular on special teams and judging from what I've seen has done a great job for devin Hester So far this year the bears are getting a lot more from their 4th round than the giants....no need to knock a great college player like Greene because Reese fucked up again at linebacker ......giants leading the league in most points allowed.....sure we have everything figured out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Paysinger has been great Payless has been a non factor and was awful on special teams against the broncos......it was clear why the draft passed him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I bet the Bears wish they had two superbowl trophies in 5 years. This argument is getting fucking old, fucking quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 So you mean a rookie 4th round linebacker is a bust after 2 games? I don't think it's fair to evaluate a player until at least midway through his second season on performance, especially players picked after the 1st round. But what do I know? Clearly, signing an oft-injured linebacker who gave us one half of football and collection of undrafted linebackers is the answer. I sure hope that the guy we picked up from Seattle is a diamond in the rough. At some point, I'd like Reese to just go to the damn diamond store and get a shiny 5-carat... just one guy like that would be nice, then go back to prospecting all over the place for your hidden gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 A link to support the OPs argument would be helpful.Right now Greene's biggest crime is backing up one of the best OLBs in football.Until then he is a regular on special teams and judging from what I've seen has done a great job for devin HesterSo far this year the bears are getting a lot more from their 4th round than the giants....no need to knock a great college player like Greene because Reese fucked up again at linebacker ......giants leading the league in most points allowed.....sure we have everything figured out Paysinger was in on 96% of the defensive snaps, don't think he was in on special teams much. Weatherford was horrible against the Broncos and that was the main problem. Hollidays return was not Paysinger's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Only way the words Great and Linebacker should be used in a sentence when talking about the Giants is: Remember when we had Great Linebackers. I have one thing good to say about Paysinger, he is better than Herzlich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Paysinger was in on 96% of the defensive snaps, don't think he was in on special teams much. Weatherford was horrible against the Broncos and that was the main problem. Hollidays return was not Paysinger's fault He was on the special teams and should have been the guy that tackled Trindon Holliday on his punt return. Watch the tape, he had a clear lane - totally unblocked - and got juked out of his cleats. http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Broncos-punt-return-hurts-Giants-in-loss/cbbcf7f0-3033-42dc-b15f-d4feb7e634cd He was on 96% of the defensive snaps, and when the Broncos stopped shooting themselves in the foot, they rolled on him and the defensive ends. Besides being unable to shed a block or make a tackle, Payless has been spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Paysinger was in on 96% of the defensive snaps, don't think he was in on special teams much. Weatherford was horrible against the Broncos and that was the main problem. Hollidays return was not Paysinger's fault Yes, you're 100% right. You can only kick so many 35 yard line-drives directly to one of the better kick returners in the league until it comes back to bite you in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Paysinger has not been good. He may have a decent stat sheet, but he doesn't read well, whiffs on tackles, and when he does make the tackle it's 5 yards down the field. We have no NFL caliber linebackers on the team right now. None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 He was on the special teams and should have been the guy that tackled Trindon Holliday on his punt ret urn. Watch the tape, he had a clear lane - totally unblocked - and got juked out of his cleats. http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Broncos-punt-return-hurts-Giants-in-loss/cbbcf7f0-3033-42dc-b15f-d4feb7e634cd He was on 96% of the defensive snaps, and when the Broncos stopped shooting themselves in the foot, they rolled on him and the defensive ends. Besides being unable to shed a block or make a tackle, Payless has been spectacular. That was Paysinger your right. I thought it was Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 It's more on the DE's. Paysinger has actually been a bright spot that no one notices. When I see him make a tackle at the LOS, I'd agree... after a 5 or 10 yard gain... pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I bet the Bears wish they had two superbowl trophies in 5 years. This argument is getting fucking old, fucking quick. Ok by that logic the Cowboys fans should just stfu too... after all they had 3 SBs in the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Ok by that logic the Cowboys fans should just stfu too... after all they had 3 SBs in the 90s. And I bet every Bears fan would trade away their "legacy" of great linebackers to just have one of those SB wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Payless is better than Herzlich .... its akin to being better off with a cold as opposed to the flu.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 And I bet every Bears fan would trade away their "legacy" of great linebackers to just have one of those SB wins. In 2013... we have a very weak LB corp... that's the issue of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 In 2013... we have a very weak LB corp... that's the issue of the day. Really? Cause I happen to think we have much bigger problem with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I could live with weak linebackers...its the lack of an OL...it reminds me of the Pisarcik Era...one of the architects of The Fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 This thread will get more ridiculous every week with the rate things are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 22, 2013 Our problems go way, way beyond linebackers. In fact, they might be one of the few bright spots on this horrid team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Our problems go way, way beyond linebackers. In fact, they might be one of the few bright spots on this horrid team. Linebackers looked awesome today.....Carolina couldn't move the ball at all. Connor over Blackburn was a stroke of genius. Nassib looked sharp too...that kid was a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Good to see the Pack lose. Hopefully The Native American Epithets lose as well. NFC East ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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