Gman329 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Does this mean Diehl goes to RT? I think that depends on whether they still see Beatty as the answer at LT. My guess is, the answer to both questions is "yes" and Booth and Petrus battle for the LG spot in camp. http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/football/Source_Giants_dont_have_plans_to_keep_Kareem_McKenzie.html Source: Giants don't have plans to keep Kareem McKenzie Wednesday, March 7, 2012 Last updated: Thursday March 8, 2012, 12:25 AM BY TARA SULLIVAN AND JEFF ROBERTS STAFF WRITERS The Record Print | E-mail The reshaping of the Giants’ roster has begun. The team recently told right tackle Kareem McKenzie — who has manned the position for the Giants since 2005, starting 105 games in that span — to “go shopping” for another team, according to a source in the organization. It will not bring him back for another season. The discussion was not a surprise as McKenzie is an unrestricted free agent and will turn 33 in May. However he started all 16 regular season games in each of the past two years. The third-round pick in the 2001 draft began his career with the Jets. The emergence of guard Mitch Petrus and last year’s fourth-round pick, tackle James Brewer, makes McKenzie expendable. He will become the latest change in the Giants’ revamping of their offensive line. They released veterans Rich Seubert and Shaun O’Hara before last season. The impending loss of McKenzie leaves David Diehl and Chris Snee as the only members of the offensive line from the 2007 Super Bowl team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Just confirmation of the inevitable. KMac was a good player for us for some time and I'm glad we had him. His play did slip in the last year or so, which I think is as much the issue as his cap number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 McKenzie did look like he was wore out near the end of the season. His feet also looked like they got stumpy. What would Carl Nicks cost us money wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 We all knew this was coming... Kareem, thank you for all you've done for this team. I wish you the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 So I found this Site... Carl Nicks Kareem McKenzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Gotta believe Carl Nicks is going to get paid big time this offseason by somebody. Given what we have to deal with in upcoming years with Nicks, Cruz, JPP, Tuck, Osi....I have to believe that Carl Nicks isn't even on our radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Gotta believe Carl Nicks is going to get paid big time this offseason by somebody. Given what we have to deal with in upcoming years with Nicks, Cruz, JPP, Tuck, Osi....I have to believe that Carl Nicks isn't even on our radar. If one of the top guards in the league is available and you are looking to revamp your OL you have to look at that option and what it may take to get him. I am not syaing pull the trigger at all cost but look into the matter to see if it could get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 If one of the top guards in the league is available and you are looking to revamp your OL you have to look at that option and what it may take to get him. I am not syaing pull the trigger at all cost but look into the matter to see if it could get done. Eh, with Snee, Petrus, Boothe, Diehl, and I'm sure Baas all able to play Guard if called upon, I think we're good. Baas/Boothe at Center. Diehl, Beatty at Tackle is significantly more sketchy. So if there's revamping/improvement/strengthening to be done, I'd have to believe it'd be on the outside of the line as opposed to the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 If one of the top guards in the league is available and you are looking to revamp your OL you have to look at that option and what it may take to get him. I am not syaing pull the trigger at all cost but look into the matter to see if it could get done. That's just not the way the Giants (Reese) operate, especially with limited cap space. The Giants are a quintessential "next man up" team. They don't invest draft choices and years of coaching in a kid not to give him his chance when the time comes. Witness Kevin Booth. Reese called re-signing him before last season a priority and sure enough, when needed, he did a great job. They see Petrus as being on the same track - for good reason, based on what we saw when he was pressed into service earlier than they really wanted to use him. Haven't seen as much of the Tackle, Brewer yet but I'm sure they see him the same way. The Giants always believe the answers are in their own room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I am not saying We need a guard. But if he can also play Tackle take a look at him maybe as a replacement for Mck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 we can't afford someone who will be one of the highest paid guards in the league. I see it right now (pre-draft and free agency with what our current roster looks like) as beatty at left tackle, boothe/petrus (probably boothe) at LG, Baas, Snee, with Deihl at RT hopefully with brewer actually showing somewhat of a fight for that spot. Plus we have the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I agree Pdub, 100%. I don't even see the sense in going after Nicks, when Boothe and Snee are a formidable Guard tandem. I was VERY impressed with Boothe at Guard... I think at times he was dominant. He handled Wilfork on his own sometimes and really stonewalled him. Boothe is going to start to be recognized for how he has grown and I think he's going to be a stalwart at LG for us, I really do. I just don't want to see him at Center again, lol. I think Carl Nicks is strictly a Guard anyway, and I do think that if there is a strong RT candidate in the draft, we could go that way in the first 3 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Any chance Kmac plays in limited role.. i.e. back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I highly doubt KMac will return. He's going to look for a starting position somewhere and it won't be with the Giants. I think the Giants don't want a 33 y/o backup anyway. His best chance to stay in the league is to start somewhere. It's the time now to groom Brewer or the next draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Any chance Kmac plays in limited role.. i.e. back up? If he can't find a starting role elsewhere, I would certainly welcome him back in a backup role at backup money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 What happened to Whimper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 What happened to Whimper? been in jacksonville for the past 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 What happened to Whimper? Not with us anymore....not dead...just not with the Giants. Forget where he signed exactly, but I want to say Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I also like Boothe. And Guy Whimper was the starting LT for the jaguars last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 been in jacksonville for the past 2 years. I'll take your word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I also like Boothe. And Guy Whimper was the starting LT for the jaguars last year. pretty sure he was RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 pretty sure he was RT. Oh true yea probly. I just remember seeing him on Jacksonville during the 2 games they were on tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Wow that's funny. I had Whimper on my mental list of guys out on IR last year. There were just so damn many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I heard someone say on an NFL podcast the RT is pretty much the only position guys with those skill sets play. You can see a Left Tackle move to Guard, a Guard move to Center, etc. but once a Right Tackle is done he's pretty much done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I heard someone say on an NFL podcast the RT is pretty much the only position guys with those skill sets play. You can see a Left Tackle move to Guard, a Guard move to Center, etc. but once a Right Tackle is done he's pretty much done. I wouldn't call McKenzie done, but he's definitely done at what he was getting paid. He could hold the fort for someone (not us) for a year or two at a much lower cap hit than what he had last year, but that's about it in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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