Virginia Giant

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No, but I’ll throw in a boat ride and a Glock.

Yeah I think I’m with you.

Now the real question. Who’s coaching this team, Parcells or Coughlin. current coordinators, to make it fair. And Nas if you say Brian Daboll I’m going to cock slap you.

Here we go Collins Hampton OBJ Nicks Shockey and the one have is the conference championship where Collins threw for five scores.

Is he better than cook? Honestly?

Yeah I feel bad and I want him to stay. But we can’t be the only ones paying double the going rate for a rb.

I don't know how we could afford him, but if we could I'm all for it. When he came back last year he immediately was back in midseason form. He's a true number 1 wr. Maybe he is on the wrong side of his peak, but he isn't at the end of his career either. He's still an impact player, a star at the position.

Per much every move made the last two years has been to make Daniel jones a franchise qb. From the coach that was hired to the investments to the offensive line and wrs, it’s all been to give dj the best score. We’ll find out what he is this year.

Definitely the pessimists view, but it’s on the range of possibilities at this point.

Not a bad deal either, I expected him to completely reset the market.

I thought exactly the same except lose to Seahawks.

I think he can be a solid career backup with a couple years of development. Efficient and limits mistakes. Could start a couple games and prevent Jones missing times ending up a disaster for the season.

Nice. I mocked him to us in the 7th.

This is pretty much how I hoped the draft would play out: CB, IOL, WR, and these picks at this point look like absolute bangers, early production type players. This WR group is suddenly very fast and could have a lot of production.

1 for 1

I like the trade. Have to put some pass catchers on this team.

That was a great free agency period. The Plax deal specifically, I remember there being a real question if he would sign, multiple visits, looked like it wouldn't get done. But that was a long time ago.

As the NY Giants equipment manager, VG has been busy ordering red alternate jerseys and gray pants for the season. But he has had time to drop a few note to Seph, Herc, and Shakes on some directions they could go. First, recognizing there is a WR on a team that doesn't want to be there, that might be had at an attractive price, the Giants make a move. Giants Trade their rd 2 pick in 2023, plus, I dunno, a 5th rd pick this year and a conditional 4th round pick in 24 to the Cardinals for DeAndre Hopkins. Giants probably some guys. Going into the draft, with WR1 settled, the Giants can start looking to fill other needs. 25: Deondre Banks, CB, Maryland 89: Steve Avila, OG, TCU 100: Jayden Reed, WR, Michigan St 128: Israel Abanikanda, RB, Pitt 160: Braeden Daniels, OG, Utah 172: Jaxon Player, DT, Baylor 209: Shaka Heyward, LB, Duke 240: Josh Whyle, TE, Cincinnati 243: Tommy DeVito, QB, Illinois Michael Jefferson, WR LA After the draft, they gang realized VG just did a 10 minute draft simulator and realize, they fucked up listening to him.

Think I heard something similar yesterday. Giants are expecting him to be a top ten qb but won’t be posting him as one in a couple years. Front end risk, back end reward. Makes me a little happier

So it is what it is. If he earns it, it is a fair deal, if he doesn't, it is a bad deal. Looks like a bad deal based on the body of work so far, a lot is riding on the real Daniel Jones being the one in a couple games last year and not the one that failed to earn a 5th year option.

Thinking it, didn't want to say it. But franchise is a good option. Worst case scenario is he comes in plays really well and we can't sign him next year. But I think if we are in a position to WANT to resign him, we'll open the checkbook next year. Guy has to show more than he has for that kind of payday that will limit the team in so many ways. If he were Mahomes, where we knew he was going to carry the team and win a lot of games because of his greatness, you pay him that kind of money. Maybe he's going to be that guy, but he has to show he is first and in 4 years he has not shown even that many flashes of true greatness. Feats of athleticism, a few good throws, toughness, grit, a will to win - yes, but flat out greatness? Not much of that so far.

Best thing for Jones to do would be to sign a 3 year deal for $30mil per, let the team build a roster around him to set him up for success for those three years and build on his '22 performance, let Burrow and Herbert reset the market and sign a mega-deal in 3 years with theoretically a few years of growth and proven success and a roster that can compete around him. Asking for 45-48 million right now says 2 things. 1: Fuck the Giants for declining the 5th year option and now having faith in me, pay up fuckers. 2: He has as many questions about himself as anyone else and wants his money now. Neither are great looks imo. I understand starting way high is a negotiating tactic in an owners league rather than a players league like MLB. But I'd take Carr on a 3 year deal and save 10 million a year while building a roster around the QB of the future when we find him in the draft next year. Even consider trading back in the first round to get some capital to move up. Even with a playoff win this team is fully rebuilding and it needs to be done right. Paying DJ > 40 million hamstrings the team if he is anything less that really good going forward, as in, that performance in the Vikings game would have to be his floor, not his ceiling.

I just don't see how we can pay anything near this. Franchise him, let him prove his $50 million a year salary. If he does, we pay it, if not, we look for a QB in next year's draft. In the mean time we try to build draft capital and build a young core group that will mature in a couple years and compete for a SB with a QB on a rookie contract. I just can't see limiting teams ability to find other pieces by resetting the QB market with a guy that will go into next year with almost as much of a question mark as he did this year.

This is like that time I posted a poll asking SW who they thought the gay SW was. Poll was limited to 20 choices and most of the replies were people upset they weren't on the poll.