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Reese is not a disaster. He's probably around the middle of the pack and I think he's getting better with experience. His draft hits and misses are about the same as other GMs. And let's not forget the three bullseyes on last year's free agent haul. Doesn't that count for anything? You're never going to see six perfect picks in the draft or 72 perfect plays in a game but sometimes it feels like nothing else will satisfy.

And if he hadn't taken the offer worth millions more, for one year less, which will give him a shot at one more big contract before his career is over, you'd be saying, "such stupidity".

Wish him the best but that's more than I would have been comfortable paying him. Never thought he'd get that much. My guess is that he wanted to stay and he and his agent spent the last 24 hours hoping the Giants would match. Otherwise, he would have signed as soon as the Colts made the offer.

Just heard on NFL Radio. Didn't get the terms. Add DT to draft day needs....or rather, move it up the list.

Hankins plays a position where his best work is not quantifiable through stats, like tying up two blockers, allowing someone else a clear path to the ball. And he knows the Spags system. Giants know what they have here and know what he's worth. I hope he's back.

I dunno.....sounds about right to me.

And in each year, they had to take the long road, starting with a Wild Card Game....and of those 8 wins, only one was at home (Falcons in 2012) and that's the only game they were favored to win. 5 out of 6 games in those two runs, they were road underdogs, including three games they were more than a TD dogs and, of course, the Super Bowl, where they were 13.5 dogs. I'll keep saying it - the greatest and most rare attribute a coach can have is winning games against teams with superior rosters. Doing it on the road, all the way through the playoffs? Twice? Pick up the phone, Tom. That'll be the HOF calling to get your jacket size.

As soon as the season ended, he wasn't theirs to trade. They tagged him to keep him from hitting the open market but you can't trade a tagged player before you sign him.

Exactly.

The single most desirable attribute a coach can have - and also the rarest - is the ability to make his team better than the sum of their parts......the ability to mask or least minimize and ultimately overcome talent deficiencies and be competitive against what should be superior teams. It involves not only X's & O's but making the players believe in themselves and their team and buying in 100%. It is a rare gift and Tom Coughlin had it. His final season, people look at all those games he lost at the gun. What escaped most is that the Giants were fielding a barely NFL quality team and just making them competitive was a hell of an accomplishment.

This is not a knock on McAdoo - I think he was solid for a rookie HC. But give TC this year's D and I believe we'd have had a better chance to go further. I absolutely believe he would have found a way to get more offense going and I never saw a coach get more out of a team when they were underdogs in a big spot than Coughlin. He's going to the HOF for a reason.

Jags are my second team as long as he's there.

Heard on Sirius NFL Network today that Fluker said the Giants told him he'll be working at Guard to start with......which is puzzling when they sign Jerry the next day. I think that says, one way or another, their starting RT or LT is not yet on the roster.

I think (not positive) the difference with Brady is he never took the big $20M contract to begin with. He took less when he signed his last contract and also structured it in a team friendly way (hell, his wife makes so much more than him, if they ever split, she'd owe him alimony!). I'm not even sure (again, not positive), under the current CBA, teams are allowed to cut a player's salary if he's under contract. You can restructure but you can't just tear up a contract and give a guy less.

That's the going rate for a QB these days, even if they don't have two Super Bowl rings and MVPs!. Check out what Cousins will get from Washington. I'd pose a different question: would you give our #1 for Joe Thomas? I realize it's strictly hypothetical, since the Browns say he's not available.....but then again, that could be smokescreen, too. Would you?

You don't think Solari is pulling his hair out when he sees technique like that? If they had someone better, Flowers wouldn't be in there but you coach who you have and hope they finally get it!

Absotively agree! He's a Seubert/Diehl reincarnation and I hope he's a career long Giant.

Agree, this is a crossroads year for Flowers and I'm not as pessimistic as most here seem to be. Sure I would have loved to get Joe Thomas and move Flowers to RT but I don't think we're looking at a lost season if he's our LT. If he and the OL as a whole show just a little improvement - a reasonable expectation - this team is a playoff team again and we'll see what happens from there.

Where Ellison will help isn't so much with chipping pass rushers, though he'll do that, too.....but in the running game. He'll do what they wanted Johnson to do last year - a move guy, who can get out front of a running play. Yes, V, we hear you and agree the OL still needs help and the truth is, the best we can hope for is marginal improvement from last year.....but this move will help with the running game more than you apparently think.

And did you see what Okung signed for? $53M for 4 years?! We couldn't, wouldn't and shouldn't have been in on that, JPP signing or no! That's a lot of coin for someone the Broncos could have kept but walked away from.

Lets see what the long term deal looks like and how JPP plays going forward before we make the summary judgement that tagging him was a bad move. There were a few games last year where he was unblockable. He's a force that makes Vernon more effective on the other side. You might think the price is too steep and that there wouldn't be much drop off without him but obviously, the Giants feel differently.

Yes, that was certainly a factor. His Showtime weekly show films in NYC on Tuesdays. Only potential snag there, that's a work day for the Giants, unlike most (all?) the other teams in the league, who work Monday, off Tuesday. Giants are off Monday, work Tuesday. Interesting to see how that works out.

And I'm with you. Nobody bitched about the OL this year more than me. But this is the right guy at the right price and I believe he'll have a dramatic effect. Looking at the price tags, I'm not sure we had enough cap space to sign a solid OT before this......and I would have hated to spend this same $6M on a guy who turned out to be not that much of an improvement. We're getting bang for our buck with this move.

Okung has been attractive simply because there aren't many OTs on the market. And each time a team has signed him for more than he's worth and he's been underwhelming. This would be exactly the kind of Geoff Schwartz move I want to avoid.

What free agent OLs are you referring to? From what I read, there are a few decent guys but they will be grossly overpaid. In our haste to fill a need, I don't want another Geoffrey Schwartz.