Nas Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Would you be upset? Reason I bring this up is that teams like the Giants, Chargers, Cowboys and obviously the Eagles and the rams are in need of a franchise QB... Some in more dire need than others of course... Yet I haven't seen a mock where any of these teams take the 3rd best QB in the draft... Yes Eli has been a workhorse but he... Rivers... Big Ben... Romo etc don't have many years left. I can see a scenario where the Giants take Lynch.... Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 No. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 No. End of discussion. You're not helping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Spending the #10 pick on the third best option at the position in what isn't a remarkably good class to begin with and not even for a position of need would be ridiculous. Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Dumb thread is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Not with all the of the other needs we have. If we go anything other than OL or D I'm gonna be heated. (Off the Treadwell Wagon since he destroyed his draft stock with poor workouts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I've heard reports, not sure how true that the Giants are interested in Connor Cook or Kevin Hogan. So this thinking isn't that crazy. I don't think Lynch is that good though and the Giants can't afford "redshirting" a guy for three years. I think Lynch ends up at 34 with Dallas. The next few QB classes aren't great and a lot of analysts pointed to that in why the Eagles and Rams traded up for Goff and Wentz. Still the Giants could wait until finding Eli's replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Mayock thinks he'll go to the Bills (#19) or Jets (#20). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I dont think Wentz/Goff/Whoever are even remotely close to being on the same skill level or being as NFL ready as Eli, "No means no", and pouty pants. Even if for some reason the Eagles did something stupid and drafted Jack/Ramsey/Tunsil and Wentz dropped to number 10 the Giants shouldnt even consider it, although it would be an interesting discussion in the draft room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yeah I'd be upset. The third best QB in a class barely worthy of two top ten picks. I'd rather sign Nassib to a 6 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Mayock thinks he'll go to the Bills (#19) or Jets (#20). I actually like Cook more than Lynch. Lynch comes from a Wing-T offense it's going to take a lot of adjustment to the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yeah I'd be upset. The third best QB in a class barely worthy of two top ten picks. I'd rather sign Nassib to a 6 year contract. For the record I'd be upset too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Cook MAY be a better QB than Lynch, IMO, but there are very real concerns about his lack of leadership ability. And to me, his team not voting him as captain, as a three year starter... that is an issue. It means he probably didn't earn their respect to warrant that designation. And in the NFL, at the QB position, you have to be the hardest worker on that team. I've read he's basically Bo Callahan from Draft Day, the QB draft darling that GM Sonny Weaver of the Browns, played by Kevin Costner, found out that none of his teammates went to his birthday party, because he was such a douche bag. Here is Cook blowing off Archie freaking Griffin - the guy just screams "Imma douche!" Also, that Cook never had a 60% pass completion percentage also bothers me. Career 57.5% passer, and it actually decreased each year as starter... going from 58.7% his first season as starter, to 58.1%, to last year at 56.1%. Contrast with Lynch who was jut the opposite, got better each year, fewer INTs, more TDs, and more volume of passes than Cook. Lynch was a 66.8% completion passer last year, and a 28-4 TD-INT ratio. That's pretty damn good. And sure you can give me level of comp but he had one of his best games against Ole Miss last season (did lay an egg against Auburn). Given all that, I think Lynch is clearly the #3 QB in this draft, although Cook has undeniable tools that QB coaches find highly attractive. All that said, there is no way the Giants should think about drafting a QB in this draft at all. They only have 6 picks, and they really need to hit on all of them to help this roster, because despite the great signings in free agency, the drafts being so historically bad over the past 6 years can leave this roster very thin if the injuries mount. Further, Eli is going to play 4 more years at least, I really believe that. His contract is for 4 more years, and I think he may even sign an extension. So I'm not considering a QB backup to groom until next year at the earliest, ideally in 2 years. I'm hoping Nassib will re-sign but doubtful. What I would love to do is trade back to someone to take Lynch and get extra picks, wouldn't mind that in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3VIN Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Would not mind that Penn St. QB in the Second. Had some great talent and may or may not have sufford from a new coach. Let him sit and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 He'll sit and learn to leave after 4 years and apply that knowledge somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 He'll sit and learn to leave after 4 years and apply that knowledge somewhere else. Yeah with rookie contracts now being basically capped at four years (fifth year option) teams cant really draft a higher round rookie and let him sit for a few years because he's gone the first chance he gets to start somewhere else. Gone are the days of drafting a lineman in the 10th round letting him sit for six years and having a blue collar starter when he comes off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 What are the chances of us trading up for Jalen Ramsey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 What are the chances of us trading up for Jalen Ramsey? About an 2017 1st, 3rd, and 2018 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 No. The Giants presumably have (barring anything unforeseen) 3-4 years to find Eli's successor before he retires. That will leave plenty of options to sort through, plus don't lose sight of Nassib; we're not sure what he'll become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 What are the chances of us trading up for Jalen Ramsey? Very, very low. The Giants think one of the three safeties they've drafted in the last two drafts will be starting opposite Collins, and we have too many needs to cash in a bunch of picks for one guy. Bennett's the frontrunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just saw a Dameshek mock draft where he has us picking Treadwell with the No.10. I for one will be PISSED if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 yeah, I'd be royally pissed. If he's available in the 3rd round...MAYBE. But he won't, so no. Outside of that, this thread is already too long and I hate adding to it given its stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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