Herc Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 unless the giants are actually considering going with hynoski over conner? 1 year 1 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'd rather keep Connor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 They're the same player as far as I'm concerned...though it would be fun to see the Hynocerous TD celebration one more time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Overreaction, Batman. All that matters in a deal like this is the guaranteed cash. It's probably around 200K, maybe less. Hillis' contract calls for 100K guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 no the idea here is the opportunity cost. if he gets cut it won't be til summer. that's 5% of their free agency cap room that can't be used during the period where the most talent is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Does Conner have some sort of injury we all don't know about? I'm sure that camp cuts will happen and I'm all for competition at any position, but $1 million for camp fodder is a little steep it seems. It would be nice to have that $$ spent elsewhere...hell, even carried over to next year if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If Hynoski is 100%, it is going to be a great battle for the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 no the idea here is the opportunity cost. if he gets cut it won't be til summer. that's 5% of their free agency cap room that can't be used during the period where the most talent is available If I'm not mistaken you can go over the cap then have to be under or at by the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 once the league season starts in march you can't go over the salary cap at all. all signings have to be approved by the league office and when they look at each contract they make sure that you aren't going over the cap. if the contract would put the team over the cap it's rejected. the only exception is when a signing bonus is accelerated (via trades or cuts). the team then has 7 days to get under the cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If I'm not mistaken you can go over the cap then have to be under or at by the start of the season. Right, had to be under by march 11th, then have to be under by the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 so basically we've committed a guaranteed 250k of our cap to hynoski. his salary is 750k. if we end up cutting him before the season starts we get 750 of the 1 mil back for our cap. i'd rather have that money right now than in august Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 so basically we've committed a guaranteed 250k of our cap to hynoski. his salary is 750k. if we end up cutting him before the season starts we get 750 of the 1 mil back for our cap. i'd rather have that money right now than in august I can guarantee you we will not be missing out on a FA for what we paid Hynoski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Rolle's contract hasn't been touched. Manning's contract hasn't been touched. There are guys like Daniel Fells that can be cut to save a half million/player. No dead money. You don't even need to cut them, because they'll drop out of the top 51, and their salaries will drop out of the cap with them. Your 2nd string fullback might temporarily cost us $580,000 of additional cap money, which isn't insurmountable. That's without any of the cap accounting voodoo. If he makes the team, we drop Connor's $740,000. Not sure why you're hyper-ventillating about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Rolle's contract hasn't been touched. Manning's contract hasn't been touched. There are guys like Daniel Fells that can be cut to save a half million/player. No dead money. You don't even need to cut them, because they'll drop out of the top 51, and their salaries will drop out of the cap with them. Your 2nd string fullback might temporarily cost us $580,000 of additional cap money, which isn't insurmountable. That's without any of the cap accounting voodoo. If he makes the team, we drop Connor's $740,000. Not sure why you're hyper-ventillating about this. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 unless the giants are actually considering going with hynoski over conner? 1 year 1 mil wow i don't see where im hyperventilating or overreacting here. and again that money is "temporarily unavailable" when it's at its most valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 be more passive aggressive nas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah, I'm not sure the commotion. Does McAdoo think either Connor/Hynoski can be a John Kuhn clone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 this is a huge commotion. all of these short matter of fact posts would be in all caps if i didn't break the caps lock button making the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 be more passive aggressive nas None of the above brother... you're just a little more sensitive towards me that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 wow i don't see where im hyperventilating or overreacting here. and again that money is "temporarily unavailable" when it's at its most valuable. I got your back. Soooo basically the Giants refused to pay Tuck an extra $2 million but they spend $1 million on a Fullback that could have been acquired at literally any time of the year. Shit Nicks is only going to get paid $3.5 million and that was also impossible but paying a fullback 1/3 that salary is acceptable? How do none of you guys see the folly in this strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 WTF IS REESE DOING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I got your back. Soooo basically the Giants refused to pay Tuck an extra $2 million but they spend $1 million on a Fullback that could have been acquired at literally any time of the year. Shit Nicks is only going to get paid $3.5 million and that was also impossible but paying a fullback 1/3 that salary is acceptable? How do none of you guys see the folly in this strategy? Um, probably because Tuck isn't worth that much (especially since he had 7 sacks in the last 5 games) and Nicks had a horrible 2012 and 2013. I'd like to ask you a question. Are you stupid or does it just come naturally. Giants need to get younger and more athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 didn't spent 1 million. spent 250k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 well this escalated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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