boohyah Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 With 3 weeks to go, the Redskins Pro Bowl voting push has worked. If it ended today, 16 would be voted in. Here's the article. What's alarming, if you could call it that, is Snee is 3rd and Robbins is 5th!!!!! November 18, 2008 It's a landslide! Redskins dominating Pro Bowl vote There’s some ballot-stuffing going on down in D.C. With three weeks to go in the NFL’s Pro Bowl fan voting on NFL.com (which runs through Dec. 9), an incredible 16 members of the Washington Redskins lead in the voting at their respective positions. That’s just stunning considering the Redskins trail the Giants by three games in the NFC East and considering there are only 19 positional categories on the ballot. The Redskins also have four of the Top 10 overall vote-getters — RB Clinton Portis (second), TE Chris Cooley (fifth), WR Santana Moss (sixth) and QB Jason Campbell (ninth). The only Giants player in the Top 10 is quarterback Eli Manning, who ranks fourth with 395,526 votes. And he’s still only second among NFC quarterbacks. New Orleans’ Drew Brees (the overall vote leader) is first. Of course, fan voting - which has been open since Oct. 13 — only counts for only one-third of the Pro Bowl selection process. Votes from coaches and players make up the other two-thirds. Still, that’s a lot of Redskins. And it’ll undoubtedly remind a lot of Giants about last season when the Dallas Cowboys sent 147 players to the Pro Bowl and the champs sent only Osi Umenyiora. No respect, I tell ya … On the bright side, there is hope since 17 Giants do appear in the top five in the voting at their positions in the NFC: • Justin Tuck leads all NFC defensive ends (198,223) • Eli Manning, as I mentioned earlier, is second among NFC quarterbacks (395,526) • Shaun O’Hara is second among NFC centers (170,262) • Madison Hedgecock is second among NFC fullbacks (90,818) • John Carney is second among NFC kickers (56,796) • Jeff Feagles is second among NFC punters (106,723) • Chase Blackburn is second among NFC special teams players (60,918) • Kevin Boss is third among NFC tight ends (108,914 … 31,000 votes ahead of Jeremy Shockey, by the way) • Chris Snee is third among NFC guards (137,481) • Antonio Pierce is third among NFC inside linebackers (98,265) • David Diehl is third (92,706) and Kareem McKenzie is fourth (80,156) among NFC tackles • Plaxico Burress if fourth among NFC receivers (199,605) • Michael Johnson is fourth among NFC free safeties (42,068) • Brandon Jacobs is fifth among NFC running backs (174,856) • Fred Robbins is fifth among NFC defensive tackles (84,143) • James Butler is fifth among NFC strong safeties (46,488) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thats crap. What a bunch of crap. Tuck, OK they got that right. But Im with you on Snee and Robbins, and Ill throw Jacobs in there too. What crap. IMO, Pierce should get a long awaited nod. And Webster, playing wise, should be a 1st choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 LOL! Cooley is 5th overall? He's had a fucking shit season. He's been riding the pine on my fantasy team since week 3. It's ridiculous how early the voting starts too. Can't this wait until the play-offs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thats crap. What a bunch of crap. Tuck, OK they got that right. But Im with you on Snee and Robbins, and Ill throw Jacobs in there too. What crap. IMO, Pierce should get a long awaited nod. And Webster, playing wise, should be a 1st choice. Blue, didn't Pierce go to the pro bowl 2 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 The fans should have no say in the voting, none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Keep in mind this is only the fan vote and it's worth one-third of the final tally. I do find it strange that the results are announced after Week 15 when every team has two games left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Keep in mind this is only the fan vote and it's worth one-third of the final tally. I do find it strange that the results are announced after Week 15 when every team has two games left. I'm keeping it in mind. However, 13 Cowboys got in last year, yet no superbowl, do you think 13 players off one team is selected solely by their fellow men (Roy Williams???). If one third of the coaches vote for Eli and one third vote for Jason Campbell, and campbell wins the fan vote because of stuffing, Campbell gets the nod. That's not right. Voting should be kept to peers and the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I'm keeping it in mind. However, 13 Cowboys got in last year, yet no superbowl, do you think 13 players off one team is selected solely by their fellow men (Roy Williams???). If one third of the coaches vote for Eli and one third vote for Jason Campbell, and campbell wins the fan vote because of stuffing, Campbell gets the nod. That's not right. Voting should be kept to peers and the media. I agree on that front. Usually the fan vote ends up getting negated by the coaches and player votes, hence no overrepresentation of NY teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Blue, didn't Pierce go to the pro bowl 2 years ago? Yea but he was an alternate. Only there cause of an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Heh. Those assholes are raising the value of their players by doing that--contract time comes around and some mediocre Redskins player pulls the "I was elected into the Pro-Bowl" BS going for the raise, we'll see who is laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Heh. Those assholes are raising the value of their players by doing that--contract time comes around and some mediocre Redskins player pulls the "I was elected into the Pro-Bowl" BS going for the raise, we'll see who is laughing. I believe they have signs all over Fedex field telling fans to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I believe they have signs all over Fedex field telling fans to vote. I'm surprised Snyder didn't install terminals at all seats where you could vote non-stop while the game is playing. Or in the bathrooms. While I'm squeezing out a 10 dollar hot dog that shot thru my body I'd love to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Blue, didn't Pierce go to the pro bowl 2 years ago? YEah, as an alternate. He desreves to start. Did a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Yeah I dont like the fact that the players get in before the end of the season, I think the Pro-Bowl players should be announced the first week going into the Superbowl. You get players like..well the Cowboys who got how ever many in last year yet in the end just played like crap in the playoffs. Alot of "Pro-Bowl" type players get in who do fuck all for their teams in the playoffs when it matters. It's just a big popularity contest now, it has no real meaning how many you go to like it did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I'm surprised Snyder didn't install terminals at all seats where you could vote non-stop while the game is playing. Or in the bathrooms. While I'm squeezing out a 10 dollar hot dog that shot thru my body I'd love to vote. Well if the NFL got their shit together it would be a lot harder to vote stuff. I could easily vote every minute 24/7. You know now that I think about it maybe I should just to push every Giant into the ProBowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I hope not one Giants player goes to the Pro-Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I hope not one Giants player goes to the Pro-Bowl. I hope so too, but I think at the very least Tuck, and theres a good chance Eli goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I hope so too, but I think at the very least Tuck, and theres a good chance Eli goes. Hedgecock & the OLine have been getting a lot of praise from the commentators, which is manitory for selection at those positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hedgecock & the OLine have been getting a lot of praise from the commentators, which is manitory for selection at those positions. Good, because they deserve it more than any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxi-xxv Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I would much prefer to see the Giants send 53 players to the game played the week before the pro bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I would much prefer to see the Giants send 53 players to the game played the week before the pro bowl. AMEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 what percentage does the fan vote count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 what percentage does the fan vote count? 1/3 But since you want percentage.....33.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 1/3 But since you want percentage.....33.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 3 33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 3 33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 3 33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 3 33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 3 3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333% 1/3 is too much. It should only be a 1/4 at the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsmalls Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 1/3 is too much. It should only be a 0 at the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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