Bigblue25 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 We usually do one, I know most of don't have the time, but here's my first round. If you have time throw them out and I will keep track. Round 1 Tampa Bay Jameis Winston QB Florida State Tennessee Marcus Mariota QB Oregon Jacksonville Dante Fowler Jr. OB Florida Oakland Amari Cooper WR Alabama Washington Leonard Williams DT Southern Cal New York Bud Dupree DE Kentucky Chicago Kevin White WR West Virginia Atlanta Vic Beasley DE Clemson New York Brandon Scherff OG Iowa St. Louis Ereck Flowers OT Miami Minnesota DeVante Parker WR Louisville Cleveland Danny Shelton DT Washington New Orleans Kevin Johnson DC Vanderbilt Miami Todd Gurley RB Georgia San Francisco Arik Armstead DE Oregon Houston Breshad Perriman WR Central Florida San Diego Melvin Gordon RB Wisconsin Kansas City Cameron Erving OT Florida State Cleveland f/BUF Jake Fisher OT Oregon Philadelphia Damorious Randall FS Arizona St Cincinnati D.J Humphries OT Florida Pittsburgh[/b] Marcus Peters CB Washington Detroit Malcom Brown DT Texas Arizona Nate Orchard DE Utah Carolina Nelson Agholor WR USC Baltimore Maxx Williams TE Minnesota Dallas Byron Jones CB UCONN Denver Andrus Peat OT Stanford Indianapolis[/b] Landon Collins SS Alabama 30 Green Bay Denzel Perryman IB Miami New Orleans Shane Ray DE Missouri New England Trae Waynes DC Michigan State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 The more I research and the more I read - I am convinced that I don't have a clue where anyone is going. I've even read that Mariota will go before Winston and the reasoning behind it was solid. I've read that the Giants will NOT take an offensive lineman and the reasoning behind it made sense. It is one of those situations where the more you know, the more you realize how much you don't know. Regardless - I will attempt to put a list together and post it before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 The more I research and the more I read - I am convinced that I don't have a clue where anyone is going. I've even read that Mariota will go before Winston and the reasoning behind it was solid. I've read that the Giants will NOT take an offensive lineman and the reasoning behind it made sense. It is one of those situations where the more you know, the more you realize how much you don't know. Regardless - I will attempt to put a list together and post it before the draft. The new OC in Tampa(Koetter) has a connection to (Helfrich) Oregon's head coach and apparently knows Mariota very well. Mariota would also probably fit their system better and Lovie looks for high character guys, so they may back off Winston. Also seen some pundits having concerns with Winston on field. Mariota is my #1 QB and also Mayock's. If Mariota does make it to two there could be a trade and that sort of throws off the whole draft. I thought and thought about putting Mariota one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 The new OC in Tampa(Koetter) has a connection to (Helfrich) Oregon's head coach and apparently knows Mariota very well. Mariota would also probably fit their system better and Lovie looks for high character guys, so they may back off Winston. Also seen some pundits having concerns with Winston on field. Mariota is my #1 QB and also Mayock's. If Mariota does make it to two there could be a trade and that sort of throws off the whole draft. I thought and thought about putting Mariota one I'm really glad we aren't hurting for a QB. Winston scares me with his previous legal problems and the accused rape and stuff. It's hard to know what goes on in someone's head and colleges will bury the dirt to keep a superstar on the team and get him out of trouble. Back room payoffs, etc., because there is so much NCAA and TV contract money for a school to disregard. Personally, I'd take Mariota over Winston on character alone. He also has a stronger arm that Winston. To me, Winston is the second coming of Geno Smith. Again, I'm just glad we have Eli and aren't in that position of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hearing it's about a done deal that Browns are shipping 12 and 19 to Titans for 2 and Mariota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hearing it's about a done deal that Browns are shipping 12 and 19 to Titans for 2 and Mariota So much for Manziel I guess. If I'm the Browns, I'm throwing Manziel in there for free.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'm really glad we aren't hurting for a QB. Winston scares me with his previous legal problems and the accused rape and stuff. It's hard to know what goes on in someone's head and colleges will bury the dirt to keep a superstar on the team and get him out of trouble. Back room payoffs, etc., because there is so much NCAA and TV contract money for a school to disregard. Personally, I'd take Mariota over Winston on character alone. He also has a stronger arm that Winston. To me, Winston is the second coming of Geno Smith. Again, I'm just glad we have Eli and aren't in that position of need. Bleedin'... there has never been a more scrutinized player for his off-field activities save Manziel than Jameis Winston. And Winston has had to endure a lot more negative consequences and media hit jobs for otherwise petty bullshit... like the bb guns and cussing in the student union. Is he a knucklehead? You bet. But he was suspended a whole game, and a BIG game (against Clemson, if memory serves correct), for yelling, "Fuck her right in the pussy". Now come on. This isn't a coach or administration that was covering up a star. FSU has dealt with stars severely under Fisher for negative conduct. The rape allegation has no legs, never did. Study up on this situation. The chick didn't even initially call the police, her friend did, and then her parents found out, all out of her control, and it snowballed on her. My guess is she cried rape because she didn't want Daddy (who's paying her freight at school) to know she's fucking a black guy willingly. But her story (more like stories, since there was more than one) never added up, and he wasn't even INDICTED. So it's not a charge, just an accusation, and my guess is he's going to bury this chick in court. I'm not excusing the crab legs, but I've known for some time now that an employee of Publix "gave him a hook up", told him he was good to go. Was it wrong? Hell yeah... and he was punished for it and suffered legal consequences for it, and consequences from the university's athletic program as well. Don't get me wrong... I don't think he's as good an NFL prospect as some are saying, and that's from his on-field performance. And the stuff he has done you still have to question his judgement and decision-making. And, if you read my post in the NFL section, I do think Mariota is going ahead of him. But Winston is not the devil that some make him out to be. I think his leadership ability exceeds Mariota's, but I think Mariota has better overall intangibles and will be the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I readily admit that I don't study QB's like I do many of the other positions because I really don't care. I believe Eli will be with us for at least a few more years and I believe Nassib is being groomed to eventually take over and I believe Nassib is going to excel in the NFL when he finally gets his shot. So I simply don't study up on QB's. As far as Winston goes, all I've done is read headlines over the past year on him and knowing it seemed he was always being accused of something. Never dug deep into it, but I tend to believe "where there's smoke, there's fire" and when someone is accused of things over and over, I tend to think there's a problem brewing somewhere. Even so...when I've seen tapes on him on NFL Network, it reminds me of everything they were saying about Geno Smith who was the same size and won a pile of accolades as "First team this, first team that, MVP in Bowl Game, etc., etc.". Regardless - I can honestly say I don't know a whole lot about Winston as a QB and even less about his personal life other than a lot of people have accused him of things and he, the school, etc., lawyered up and it kind of went away. And when I know that a lot of money is involved, I simply think the worst of human character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Don't think I have the time this year for a full mock. Too much college shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'm really glad we aren't hurting for a QB. Winston scares me with his previous legal problems and the accused rape and stuff. It's hard to know what goes on in someone's head and colleges will bury the dirt to keep a superstar on the team and get him out of trouble. Back room payoffs, etc., because there is so much NCAA and TV contract money for a school to disregard. Personally, I'd take Mariota over Winston on character alone. He also has a stronger arm that Winston. To me, Winston is the second coming of Geno Smith. Again, I'm just glad we have Eli and aren't in that position of need. But why does SD seem to be hurting for one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 btw sorry BB25, I can barely count to 9 this year... and it goes like this 1, 2, 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 But why does SD seem to be hurting for one? Because the skinny is that Rivers has no interest in re-signing with them, and he's only under contract for this upcoming season, then a free agent. They have discussed trading him so they can't start over now and get something for him, rather than wait until next year holding the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 He doesn't want to live in LA. He wants to move to the south and he has a good relationship with wisenhunt. I really thought that trade was going down but two number one picks is tough to pass up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Manziel cost them a 1st and a 3rd. Now they're trading two number 1s for a qb a year later. He must've been Even worse behind the scenes than even the public is aware of if they're giving up on him this soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Manziel cost them a 1st and a 3rd. Now they're trading two number 1s for a qb a year later. He must've been Even worse behind the scenes than even the public is aware of if they're giving up on him this soon LMAO - I was so hoping the Cowboys would pick him. They contemplated it...then went with Zack Martin and I threw a royal fit Oh Johnny Football, you are such a party animal. Why couldn't you have been a cowboy? Damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 What the hell, I'll try. I am not really as familiar as I should be with the prospects and team needs. 1. Tampa: Winston QB 2: Titans: Williams DT 3: Jags: Scherrf OT 4. Raiders White WR 5. Redskins Fowler OLB 6. Jets Mariotta QB 7: Bears Beasly OLB 8. Falcons Waynes CB 9. Giants: Cooper WR 10. Rams: Parker WR 11. Vikings: Peat OT 12. Browns: Shelton DT 13. Saints: Dupree DE 14. Dolphins: Collins OT 15. 49ers: Gregory DE 16. Texans: Perriman WR 17: Chargers: Gurly RB 18: Chiefs: Johnson CB 19. Browns: Collins S 20. Eagles: Beckham WR 21: Bengals: Flowers OT 22: Steelers: Jones CB 23. Lions: Brown DT 24. Cards: Ray DE 25: Panthers: Armstead DE 26: Ravens: Erving C 27: Cowboys: Goldman DT 28: Broncos: Odighizuwa 29: Colts: Fisher OT 30 Packers: Darby CB 31: Saints: Harold OLB 32 Patriots: Gordon RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Final draft (had to remove La'el Collins) 1 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers: QB Jameis Winston 2 - Tennessee Titans: DT Leonard Williams 3 - Jacksonville Jaguars: DE Dante Fowler 4 - Oakland Raiders: WR Amari Cooper 5 - Washington Redskins: OLB Vic Beasley 6 - NY Jets: QB Marcus Mariota 7 - Chicago Bears: OG Brandon Scherff 8 - Atlanta Falcons: WR Kevin White 9 - NY Giants: OT Andrus Peat 10 - St. Louis Rams: OLB/DE Bud DuPree 11 - Minnesota Vikings: OT Erick Flowers 12 - Cleveland Browns: WR Devante Parker 13 - New Orleans Saints: DT Danny Shelton 14 - Miami Dophins: CB Trae Waynes 15 - San Francisco 49ers: DE Arik Armstead 16 - Houston Texans: S Landon Collins 17 - San Diego Chargers: RB Todd Gurley 18 - Kansas City Chiefs: OLB Randy Gregory 19 - Cleveland Browns (via Buf): C Cameron Erving 20 - Philadelphia Eagles: CB Byron Jones 21 - Cincinnati Bengals: DT Malcom Brown 22 - Pittsburgh Steelers: OLB Shane Ray 23 - Detroit Lions: OLB Eli Harold 24 - Arizona Cardinals: OT Jake Fisher 25 - Carolina Panthers: CB Kevin Johnson 26 - Baltimore Ravens: WR Breshad Perriman 27 - Dallas Cowboys: RB Melvin Gordon 28 - Denver Broncos: OT D.J. Humphries 29 - Indianapolis Colts: DT Eddie Goldman 30 - Green Bay Packers: ILB Eric Kendricks 31 - New Orleans Saints (via Sea): WR Dorial Green-Beckham 32 - New England Patriots: WR Phillip Dorsett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Fuck it, I probably made some glaring mistake somewhere but here it is. 1 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers: QB Jameis Winston2 - Tennessee Titans: QB Marcus Mariota3 - Jacksonville Jaguars: DT Leonard Williams4 - Oakland Raiders: WR Amari Cooper5 - Washington Redskins: DE Dante Fowler6 - NY Jets: OLB Vic Beasley7 - Chicago Bears: WR Kevin White8 - Atlanta Falcons: DE Bud Dupree9 - NY Giants: OT/OG Brandon Scherff10 - St. Louis Rams: OT Erick Flowers11 - Minnesota Vikings: CB Trae Waynes12 - Cleveland Browns: OT Andrus Peat13 - New Orleans Saints: DT Danny Shelton14 - Miami Dolphins: WR Devante Parker15 - San Francisco 49ers: DE Arik Armstead16 - Houston Texans: RB Todd Gurley17 - San Diego Chargers: RB Melvin Gordon18 - Kansas City Chiefs: CB Kevin Johnson19 - Cleveland Browns:: OT DJ Humphries20 - Philadelphia Eagles: WR Breshad Perriman21 - Cincinnati Bengals: DE/OLB Randy Gregory22 - Pittsburgh Steelers: CB Byron Jones23 - Detroit Lions: DT Malcolm Brown24 - Arizona Cardinals: DE/OLB Shane Ray25 - Carolina Panthers: OT DJ Humphries26 - Baltimore Ravens: WR Phillip Dorsett27 - Dallas Cowboys: CB Marcus Peters28 - Denver Broncos: OT Jake Fisher29 - Indianapolis Colts: S Landon Collins30 - Green Bay Packers: CB Jalen Collins31 - New Orleans Saints: OLB Eli Harold32 - New England Patriots: CB Eric Rowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 We usually do one, I know most of don't have the time, but here's my first round. If you have time throw them out and I will keep track. Round 1 1Tampa BayJameis Winston QB Florida State 2TennesseeMarcus Mariota QB Oregon 3JacksonvilleDante Fowler Jr. OB Florida 4OaklandAmari Cooper WR Alabama 5WashingtonLeonard Williams DT Southern Cal 6New YorkVic Beasley OB Clemson 7ChicagoKevin White WR West Virginia 8AtlantaBud Dupree DE Kentucky 9New YorkBrandon Scherff OG Iowa 10St. LouisEreck Flowers OT Miami 11MinnesotaDeVante Parker WR Louisville 12ClevelandDanny Shelton DT Washington 13New OrleansMarcus Peters DC Washington 14MiamiKevin Johnson DC Wake Forest 15San FranciscoArik Armstead DE Oregon 16HoustonBreshad Perriman WR Central Florida 17San DiegoTodd Gurley RB Georgia 18Kansas CityCameron Erving OT Florida State 19 Cleveland f/BUF La'el Collins OT LSU 20PhiladelphiaNelson Agholor WR Southern Cal 21CincinnatiJake Fisher OT Oregon 22PittsburghByron Jones DC Connecticut 23DetroitMalcom Brown DT Texas 24ArizonaNate Orchard DE Utah 25CarolinaAndrus Peat OT Stanford 26BaltimoreMaxx Williams TE Minnesota 27DallasEric Kendricks IB UCLA 28DenverDonovan Smith OT Penn State 29IndianapolisLandon Collins SS Alabama 30Green BayDenzel Perryman IB Miami 31New OrleansShane Ray DE Missouri 32New EnglandTrae Waynes DC Michigan State I just realized our top 10 are exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 LMAO - I was so hoping the Cowboys would pick him. They contemplated it...then went with Zack Martin and I threw a royal fit Oh Johnny Football, you are such a party animal. Why couldn't you have been a cowboy? Damn Proof you can be one ugly mofo and still get chicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 I just realized our top 10 are exactly the same. A lot of draft of draft is, that's cool. I did one on WalterFootball.com. That's edited from what I had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Proof you can be one ugly mofo and still get chicks. Money Naz...it's all about the money. It's so common as to be a life's adage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I am printing this out right now. The kids and I are going to have a serious talk tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I am printing this out right now. The kids and I are going to have a serious talk tonight. LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Final draft (had to remove La'el Collins) 1 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers: QB Jameis Winston 2 - Tennessee Titans: DT Leonard Williams 3 - Jacksonville Jaguars: DE Dante Fowler 4 - Oakland Raiders: WR Amari Cooper 5 - Washington Redskins: OLB Vic Beasley 6 - NY Jets: QB Marcus Mariota 7 - Chicago Bears: OG Brandon Scherff 8 - Atlanta Falcons: WR Kevin White 9 - NY Giants: OT Andrus Peat 10 - Minnesota Vikings: OLB/DE Bud DuPree 11 - St. Louis Rams: OT Erick Flowers 12 - Cleveland Browns: WR Devante Parker 13 - New Orleans Saints: DT Danny Shelton 14 - Miami Dophins: CB Trae Waynes 15 - San Francisco 49ers: DE Arik Armstead 16 - Houston Texans: S Landon Collins 17 - San Diego Chargers: RB Todd Gurley 18 - Kansas City Chiefs: OLB Randy Gregory 19 - Cleveland Browns (via Buf): C Cameron Erving 20 - Philadelphia Eagles: CB Byron Jones 21 - Cincinnati Bengals: DT Malcom Brown 22 - Pittsburgh Steelers: OLB Shane Ray 23 - Detroit Lions: OLB Eli Harold 24 - Arizona Cardinals: OT Jake Fisher 25 - Carolina Panthers: CB Kevin Johnson 26 - Baltimore Ravens: WR Breshad Perriman 27 - Dallas Cowboys: RB Melvin Gordon 28 - Denver Broncos: OT D.J. Humphries 29 - Indianapolis Colts: DT Eddie Goldman 30 - Green Bay Packers: ILB Eric Kendricks 31 - New Orleans Saints (via Sea): WR Dorial Green-Beckham 32 - New England Patriots: WR Phillip Dorsett St. Louis picks ahead of Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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