Sephiroth Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 ...has thrown as many TDs to his opponents as to his own team this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 He’s only thrown for more than 15 tds once. He showed us who he is for the past 5 years, and we paid him still hoping he wasn’t that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I've been one of Jones hardest critics on here. He impressed he with his poise and his ability to keep moving forward regardless of what is happening in the field. However as a QB Jones is no better (on his good days) than a Matt Hassleback or an Alex Smith in the later years. He needs support from his team or else he's just an average QB. He's not a guy you want to be building a team around he's a guy who need to be on a team that's already built. I feel for him because he doesn't complain and he shows up week in and out but he's not the right QB for this team and he never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 How do you guys think Jalen Hurts would fair with this offensive line and wide receiver group? I think it is a tall task for any qb to take. The whole offense is not built really well and looks like one of the first round offensive lineman is turning out to be a bust. A change in coaching personnel would be a start. The team plays much differently when Barkley is healthy. He's a huge loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, jranieli said: How do you guys think Jalen Hurts would fair with this offensive line and wide receiver group? I think it is a tall task for any qb to take. The whole offense is not built really well and looks like one of the first round offensive lineman is turning out to be a bust. A change in coaching personnel would be a start. The team plays much differently when Barkley is healthy. He's a huge loss. But that's the thing. If your team is that bad you don't sign an average QB to a 160 million dollar contract. Also it's not like Jones is playing well even with protection. He fails to see the blitz or adjust the protection. I hate the whole "this QB wouldn't do good behind this Oline" well were not talking about any QB were talking about the one we have who is eating up 47 million dollars in cap space next year. https://x.com/danorlovsky7/status/1709155176236355829?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Jones has been doing this since day one. https://x.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1709047055203922079?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 The two highest paid guards in 2024. Quinten Nelson : 20 million cap hit. Chris Lindstrom: 18 million dollar cap hit. Jones cap number: 47.5 million. We could theoretically pay the two best guards in the NFL and have change left over. Or we could have Jones. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said: But that's the thing. If your team is that bad you don't sign an average QB to a 160 million dollar contract. Also it's not like Jones is playing well even with protection. He fails to see the blitz or adjust the protection. I hate the whole "this QB wouldn't do good behind this Oline" well were not talking about any QB were talking about the one we have who is eating up 47 million dollars in cap space next year. https://x.com/danorlovsky7/status/1709155176236355829?s=20 I understand your points, but the Giants were good last year and he got a huge contract for his play. He had much more time and didn't have to scramble for his life on every play. There was one play last night early. Maybe the second or third series and Jones didn't see the guy coming from his blindside. Not not that sack from the cornerback who had that monster game. Much earlier than that. Probably a miss by the offensive lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 32 minutes ago, jranieli said: How do you guys think Jalen Hurts would fair with this offensive line and wide receiver group? I think it is a tall task for any qb to take. The whole offense is not built really well and looks like one of the first round offensive lineman is turning out to be a bust. A change in coaching personnel would be a start. The team plays much differently when Barkley is healthy. He's a huge loss. Everyone wanted to make fun of one of my mocks because I said we should draft 3 backs for when Barkley is no longer here. Well... he's not here, see what happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Sephiroth said: Everyone wanted to make fun of one of my mocks because I said we should draft 3 backs for when Barkley is no longer here. Well... he's not here, see what happens? The whole offense is constructed horribly. The drop off is huge from the starter to backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I think we are all in shock because even the worst expectations for the season weren't this bad. Any news on JMS injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, gmenroc said: I think we are all in shock because even the worst expectations for the season weren't this bad. Any news on JMS injury? Just that it's a shoulder and he and Bellinger were both hurt on the Jones ass pushing play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, jranieli said: How do you guys think Jalen Hurts would fair with this offensive line and wide receiver group? I think it is a tall task for any qb to take. The whole offense is not built really well and looks like one of the first round offensive lineman is turning out to be a bust. A change in coaching personnel would be a start. The team plays much differently when Barkley is healthy. He's a huge loss. Thank you. Has any QB been sacked more than Jones so far this season? Add to that that other teams have these monster wide receivers that bully the CB and snatch the ball anyway... For us... they can't even get open. We have our fastest WR riding the bench for whatever reason and our D can't stop a damn thing... wtf happened to Sexy Dexy? I think pinning ANYHING on Jones at this point is misdirected. yes, he's made mistakes... but what QB doesn't? Fucking Patrick Mahomes threw 2 INTs (if not more) against the jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, BlueInCanada said: But that's the thing. If your team is that bad you don't sign an average QB to a 160 million dollar contract. Also it's not like Jones is playing well even with protection. He fails to see the blitz or adjust the protection. I hate the whole "this QB wouldn't do good behind this Oline" well were not talking about any QB were talking about the one we have who is eating up 47 million dollars in cap space next year. https://x.com/danorlovsky7/status/1709155176236355829?s=20 No he wasn't wide open. The defender was trailing him and could close on him in a split second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, BlueInCanada said: Jones has been doing this since day one. https://x.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1709047055203922079?s=20 Please read the very first comment. So True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, BlueInCanada said: The two highest paid guards in 2024. Quinten Nelson : 20 million cap hit. Chris Lindstrom: 18 million dollar cap hit. Jones cap number: 47.5 million. We could theoretically pay the two best guards in the NFL and have change left over. Or we could have Jones. lol But somehow that analogy didn't apply to Barkley who's a difference maker. Besides, who said you could just sign those 2 guards anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Sephiroth said: Everyone wanted to make fun of one of my mocks because I said we should draft 3 backs for when Barkley is no longer here. Well... he's not here, see what happens? But that would mean not drafting for other positions. What you're suggesting is just not realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 In the most predictable possible comment in this thread here I am to chime in that we could’ve just drafted Nelson instead of Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Robinson was wide open for about 3 seconds on that play. Waller was open on the pick 6 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Robinson was about as wide open as you can get in the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Yes Jones has been sacked a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 He held the ball way too long and got creamed in the mean time. Dude is shell shocked this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 The Oline is awful. Jones is playing awful. Both of these things can be true at the same time. Jones is being paid as a top 10 QB, we should expect more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Why was Seattle able to bandaid their line together for this game., but the Giants couldn't? I think coaching is equally to be blamed. What a dumpster fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said: The Oline is awful. Jones is playing awful. Both of these things can be true at the same time. Jones is being paid as a top 10 QB, we should expect more. yeah nobody has said or implied that Jones is the only one to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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