Jerry Reese Write-Up

[Dragon]

Since Jerry Reese took over as General Manager in 2007 the Giants have experienced the highest of highs and more recently the lowest of lows. With the end of the Tom Coughlin era becoming a reality I, like many Giants fans, wanted Reese to go with him. Most of us stating the reasons (mostly heard on sports tv and radio)… the overall lack of talent on the roster, inability to consistently bring in impact free agents, and shaky drafting. However, I decided to take a deeper look to see exactly where the issue with Jerry Reese lies. I looked at acquisitions that took place during Reese tenure as GM. I will be including Draft selections, Undrafted Free Agents (UDFAs) and Free Agents acquired from other teams from 2007-15. I will NOT be including the Re-Signing of players that were acquired prior to Reese’s tenure as GM. Therefore contracts of Eli Manning, Justin Tuck and others will not be included as they were not “acquired” during Reese’s time. I will be including the current status of the draft picks as well as the length of contracts given to free agents… not the total amount as I am not very well versed on the workings of the salary cap. I’ve also included a simple ranking system for the production value of certain players. At the end I will tally up several notes about the information I gathered and will continue with an offseason plan to be completed at a later date. This is what I’ve found.

*: Roster Filler/Situational Player
**: Decent Contributor
***: Solid Player
****: Impact Player
*****: Star Player

 

Note: It should be known that I was including street free agents that were on the roster as of game 1 in each season and did not include any that were waived prior to that. Starting with the 2013 season the site I was using stopped clarifying who was waived and who wasn't so instead of listing every "Street" Free Agent we signed (which would imply they were all contributors) I just counted up the total number of them signed.

 

2007

 

Free Agents
Kawika Mitchell LB (1 Year)***
Michael Stone DB (1 Year)
Anthony Wright QB (2 Years)

Draft
1: Aaron Ross CB (Out of NFL in 2013)***
2: Steve Smith WR (Retired 2013 – Injuries)****
3: Jay Alford DT (Out of NFL since 2013… UFL 2011-2013)**
4: Zak DeOssie LB/ST (Still w/Team… Finished 2015 on IR)*
5: Kevin Boss TE (Out of NFL since 2013)**
6: Adam Koets OT (Out of NFL since 2011)
7: Michael Johnson S (Out of NFL since 2011)**
7: Ahmad Bradshaw RB (Released by NYG after 2012 season… currently on IR for Colts)****

 

UDFAs
Brandon London WR, Marco Thomas WR, Michael Matthews TE*, Gabe Hall OL/TE, Justin Jones OT, Joel Clinger OT, Ryan Keenan OG, Marquis Gunn DE, Craig Dahl S*

 

2008

 

Free Agents
Sammy Knight SS (3 Years)
Danny Clark LB (2 Years)
Renaldo Wynn DL (1 Year)
David Carr QB (1 Year)*
Shane Olivea OT (1 Year)
Jonathan Palmer OT (1 Year)
Rodney Leisle DT (1 Year)
Jeremy Clark DT (1 Year)

Draft
1: Kenny Phillips S (Out of NFL since 2012)***
2: Terrell Thomas CB (Out of NFL since 2013)***
3: Mario Manningham WR (Out of NFL since end of 2014 PreSeason)**
4: Bryan Kehl LB (Out of NFL since 2013)
5: Jonathan Goff LB (Out of NFL since 2012)*
6: Andre Woodson QB (Out of NFL since 2009)
6: Robert Henderson DE (Out of NFL since 2010)

UDFAs
Glann Bujnoch OL, Wallace Gilberry DE, Nehemiah Warrick S, Andrew Bain OL, Antonio Reynolds DE, Dylan Thiry OT, Carnell Stewart OT, Nate Robinson DT, DJ Hall WR.

 

2009

 

Free Agents
Michael Boley LB (5 Years)***
Rocky Bernard DT (4 Years) ***
Chris Canty DT (6 Years) ***
C.C. Brown S (1 Year)
Tutan Reyes OL (1 Year)

Draft
1: Hakeem Nicks WR (2^nd Stint with NYG… Signed during 2015 Season)***
2: Clint Sintim LB/DE (Retired in 2013)
2: William Beatty OT (Currently on IR with NYG)***
3: Ramses Barden WR (Out of NFL since 2013)
3: Travis Beckum TE (Out of NFL since 2012)
4: Andre Brown RB Out of NFL since 2013)*
5: Rhett Bomar QB (Retired since 2012)
6: DeAndre Wright DB (Never Played a down in NFL)
7: Stoney Woodson DB (Never Played a down in NFL)

 

UDFAs
Maurice Evans DE, Vince Anderson DB, Sha’Reff Rashad DB, Bruce Johnson DB*, Alex Field DL, Dwayne Hendricks DL*, Kenny Ingram LB.

 

2010

 

Free Agents
Keith Bulluck LB (1 Year)
Jim Sorgi QB (1 Year)
John Busing S (1 Year)
Antrel Rolle S (5 Years)****
Deon Grant S (1 Year )***
Shawn Andrews (6 Years ) **

Draft
1: Jason Pierre-Paul DE (Entering Free Agency)****
2: Linval Joseph DT (Signed with Vikings in 2013)***
3: Chad Jones S (Retired due to Off-Field Accident)
4: Phillip Dillard LB (Retired since 2013)
5: Mitch Petrus OL (Retired since 2012)
6: Adrian Tracy DE (Out of NFL since 2011)
7: Matt Dodge P (Retired since 2012)

 

UDFAs
Victor Cruz WR****, Jake Ballard TE**, Tim Brown WR, Duke Calhoun WR, Lee Campbell LB, Nate Collins DT, Jim Cordle C *, Michael Greco S, Dennis Landolt OL, Ayanga Okpokwuruk DE, Dominic Randolph QB, Seth Williams CB, Lee Wright CB.

 

2011

 

Free Agents
David Baas C (5 Years)***
Steve Weatherford P(1 Year)***
Ben Patrick TE (1 Year)
Gabe Watson DT (1 Year)
Rhys Lloyd K (1 Year)
Brian Williams CB (1 Year)
Chris White OL (1 Year)
David Carr QB (1 Year)
Andre Brown RB (1 Year??)
Stacy Andrews OL (1 Year)
Daniel Coats TE (1 Year)
Jimmy Kennedy DT (1 Year)
Justin Tryon CB (1 Year)

 

Draft
1: Prince Amukamara CB (Entering Free Agency)***
2: Marvin Austin DT (Out of NFL since 2014)
3: Jerrel Jernigan WR (Out of NFL since 2014)*
4: James Brewer OT (Signed with NYJ at the start of 2015 Season)*
6: Greg Jones LB (Out of NFL since 2012)*
6: Tyler Sash S (Out of NFL since 2013… RIP)*
6: Jacquian Williams LB (Out of NFL Since 2014)*
7: Da’Rel Scott RB (Out of NFL since 2013… Currently in CFL)

 

UDFAs
Ibrahim Abdulai DT, Mark Herzlich LB**, Henry Hynoski FB**, Jarriel King OT, Craig Marshall DE, Martin Parker DT, Spencer Paysinger LB**, David Sims S, Jerrard Tarrant S, Justin Trattou*

 

2012

 

Free Agents
Martellus Bennett TE (1 Year)***
Stevie Brown S (1 Year)**
Sean Locklear OL (1 Year)*
Antwaun Molden CB (1 Year)
Shaun Rodgers DT (1 Year)*
Marcus Thomas DT (1 Year)
Larry Donnell TE (3 Years)**
Will Hill S (3 Years)**

Draft
1: David Wilson RB (Retired due to Injury in 2013)***
2: Rueben Randle WR (Entering Free Agency)**
3: Jayron Hosley CB (Entering Free Agency)*
4: Adrien Robinson TE (Released before 2015 Season)
4: Brandon Mosley OT (Released before 2015 Season)
6: Matt McCants OT (Released in 2013… Currently w/ OAK)
7: Markus Kuhn DT (Entering Free Agency)*

 

UDFAs
Matt Broha DE, David Douglas WR, Janzen Jackson S, Joe Martinek FB, Jojo Nicholas S, Adewale Ojomo DL, Julian Talley WR, James Suozzo QB

 

2013

 

Free Agents
Josh Brown K (1 Year)***
Ryan Mundy S (1 Year)*
Louis Murphy WR (1 Year)
Brandon Myers TE (4 Years)
Kyle Bosworth LB (1 Year)
Cullen Jenkins DT (3 Years )**
Aaron Ross CB (1 Year)
Dan Connor LB (1 Year)
Mike Patterson DT(1 Year)*
Aaron Curry LB (1 Year)
Michael Palmer TE(1 Year)

Brandon Jacobs RB (1 Year)*

28 Additional “Street” Free Agents

 

Draft
1: Justin Pugh OT (Starting LG)****
2: Jonathan Hankins DT (Starting DT)****
3: Damontre Moore DE (Released during 2015 Season… Currently with MIA)
4: Ryan Nassib QB (Current Backup QB)*
5: Cooper Taylor S (Currently on IR with NYG)
7: Eric Herman OL (Released prior to 2015 Season)
7: Michael Cox RB (Released in 2014)

 

UDFAs
Alonzo Tweedy LB/S, Etienne Sabino LB, Chase Clement TE, Charles James DB*, Charles Dieuseul LB, Kenny Miles RB, Marcus Davis WR

 

2014

 

Free Agents
Geoff Schwartz OG (4 Years) **
Rashad Jennings RB (4 Years)***
J.D. Walton C (2 Years)*
Quintin Demps S (1 Year)*
Walter Thurmond III (1 Year… Only played 2 games due to injury)
Dominique Rogers-Cromartie CB (5 Years)****
Trindon Holiday WR/ST (1 Year)
John Jerry OG (1 Year)*
Zack Bowman CB (1 Year)**
Charles Brown OT (1 Year)
Robert Ayers DE (2 Years)**
Kellen Davis TE (1 Year)
Josh Freeman QB (1 Year)
Rusty Smith QB (1 Year)
Jameel McClain LB (2 Years)*
Adam Snyder OG (1 Year)

14 Additional “Street” Free Agents

 

Draft
1: Odell Beckham Jr WR (#1 Receiver)*****
2: Weston Richburg C (Starting C)****
3: Jay Bromley DT (Rotational DT)**
4: Andre Williams RB (Rotational RB)*
5: Nat Berhe S (IR in 2015 Training Camp)
5: Devon Kennard (Starting LB… Ended Season on IR)**
6: Bennett Jackson DB (Moved to S… IR in 2015 Training Camp)

 

UDFAs
Kelcy Quarles DL, Emmanuel Dieke DE, Dan Fox LB, Eathyn Manumaluene DT, Kerry Wynn DE*, Xavier Gimble TE. CJ Barnett S, Justin Anderson LB, Thomas Gordon S

 

2015

 

Free Agents
Shane Vereen RB (3 Years)***
Dwayne Harris WR (5 Years)***
Marshall Newhouse OT (2 Years)*
J.T. Thomas LB (3 Years)**
Jonathan Casillas LB (3 Years)**
Kenrick Ellis DT (1 Year)
George Selvie DE (1 Year)*
Josh Gordy DB (1 Year)
Jeremy Miles S (1 Year)
James Jones WR (1 Year)
Brandon Merriweather S (1 Year)*
Ashlee Palmer LB (1 Year)
Brett Jones C (3 Years… from CFL)
Louis Nix DT (3 Years)
Jasper Brinkley LB (1 Year)**
Stevie Brown S (1 Year)
Craig Dahl S (1 Year)*
Hakeem Nicks WR (1 Year)

11 Additional “Street” Free Agents

 

Draft
1: Ereck Flowers OT (Starting LT)***
2: Landon Collins S (Starting S)**
3: Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE (Rotational DE… Ended season on IR)
5: Mykkele Thompson S (IR in Training Camp)

6: Geremy Davis WR (6^th on Depth Chart)
7: Bobby Hart OL (Backup OG/OT)*

 

UDFAs
Justin Currie S, Sean Donnelly OL, Cole Farrand LB, Kenneth Harper RB, Brad Harrah DE, Akeem Hunt RB, Matt LaCosse TE*, Carlif Taylor DT, Will Tye TE**

 

Draft Notes
Overall Picks: 66
Still with NYG: 25 (This number includes players that are going to free agency such as Jason Pierre-Paul, Prince Amukamara, and the 2012 draft class)
Out of NFL (Not listed as “Retired”): 25
Retired: 8
Positional Numbers/Notes: QB – 2, RB – 5, FB – 0, WR – 8, TE – 3, OL – 11, DL – 12, LB – 7, DB – 15, ST – 1.
Out of the 11 OL Selected, prior to 2013 only 1 (Will Beatty 2009) was selected before the 4^th round.
Out of the 7 LB Selected none have been selected prior to round 4 and only 1 LB has been drafted by NYG since 2011. (Clint Sintim is listed as a DE/LB Tweener and is counted in my totals as a DE as a result of not being a pure LB)

 

Top Picks by Round (Notables)
1: Odell Beckham Jr 2014 (Jason Pierre-Paul 2010/Prince Amukamara 2011/Justin Pugh 2013)
2: Jonathan Hankins 2013 (Steve Smith 2007/Will Beatty 2009/Weston Richburg 2014)
3: Mario Manningham 2008 (Jay Alford 2007)
4: Ryan Nassib 2013 (Zak DeOssie 2007)
5: Kevin Boss 2007 (Jonathan Goff 2008/Devon Kennard 2014)
6: Jacquain Williams 2011 (???)
7: Ahmad Bradshaw 2007 (Michael Johnson 2007)
Best Rounds: 1^st and 2^nd
Worst Rounds: 4^th and 6^th

 

UDFA Contributors: Michael Matthews TE, Craig Dahl S, Bruce Johnson DB, Dwayne Hendricks DL, Victor Cruz WR, Jake Ballard TE, Jim Cordle OL, Mark Herzlich LB, Henry Hynoski FB, Justin Trattou DL, Spencer Paysinger LB, Charles James DB, Kerry Wynn DE, Matt LaCosse TE, Will Tye TE

 

Free Agency Notes
Multi-Year Starters/Contributors: 21 Players
Stopgaps: 61 players
Positional Numbers: QB – 6 (David Carr signed twice), RB – 3, FB – 0, WR – 5, TE – 4, OL – 13, DL – 12, LB – 12, DB – 18, ST – 2

Overall Positional Acquisitions: QB – 8, RB – 8, FB – 0, WR – 13, TE – 7, OL – 24, DL – 24, LB – 19, DB – 33, ST – 3.

 

I will always give credit where credit is due. Over the last 3 years, Reese has done a great job in rebuilding an Offensive Line that could potentially carry us for the next 10 years. He’s also given us the most dynamic WR in our history (Amani Toomer holds Giants TD Record with 54… Odell Beckham Jr currently has 25). He also (by my count) is bringing in an average of 2 UDFAs per offseason that at the very least contribute to the team during the season. That’s not to mention key contributors like Victor Cruz. He has his moments… however he also has some major downfalls. As I outlined earlier, our LB situation is horrendous and Reese’s refusal to address it outside of bringing in players that have underperformed in other organizations (Keith Rivers, Keith Bulluck, Dan Connor) has helped place us in a situation where our defense is currently the worst in the NFL. We currently have 3/5 of a great OL in place, but the OL that was built by Ernie Accorsi was allowed to get old all at once around 3 years ago without infusing young talent into it and we are still trying to recover today. And the biggest issue that I’ve seen so far is the sheer amount of players drafted, that are out of the NFL for one reason or another. Out of the 66 total draft picks Reese has made, 33 of them are either out of the NFL entirely or retired… and that includes the 20 picks we’ve made from 2013-15 whose rookie contracts have yet to expire. The 2008 Draft class is completely out of the NFL. If Will Beatty is released (a possibility given his excessive contract, health and age), none of the 2009 draft class will be in a Giants uniform. The same can be said about the 2010, 2011 and 2012 draft classes if JPP, Prince, Randle, Hosley, and Kuhn aren’t brought back. That’s 31 consecutive draft picks that failed to warrant bringing them back. We need much better from the draft. Weak drafts build a weak core of a team and that is probably the main reason we’ve only won 19 games over the span of 3 years.

Now that John Mara and Steve Tisch have publically put their support behind Reese, he now is in a position where he can either cement his legacy, or prove to naysayers that he isn’t cut out for the job. I personally do not like the job Reese has done in total. I believe that he walked into the most ideal position any GM could ask for. When he took over for Accorsi he had a Head Coach, a young franchise QB, a young and upcoming RB, a pair of dependable WRs, a complete OL, a ferocious DL, and at least a serviceable LB Core and Secondary… not to mention that the team was 11-5 & 10-6 the previous 2 years, both of which were playoff years including a NFC East title. To me… the bottom line is Reese has been a complete roller coaster in his time and only consistent at being inconsistent. Nothing he’s done warrants his arrogance we’ve seen in his press conferences and interviews. However, he now has to opportunity to completely build “His” team and regardless of how much I dislike him and the job he’s done, as a fan of the New York Giants, I hope he succeeds with flying colors, because if he doesn’t we’ll be back at square one... after wasting the final years of Eli Manning's career and possibly guaranteed Odell Beckham Jr leaving when he hits free agency.

[GA4M]

My mouse wheel just broke!

[Dragon]

Lol use your arrows.

 

It's long winded, but it'll be in video form soon.

[GA4M]

Meh, going to let the Football poo go for a bit. they keep me pissed enough during the season. I almost feel sorry for the new Coach as he will have one hell of a task at hand.

[Tempest]

Excellent work

[Bigblue25]

Great work, even though I disagree on some of grading system

[Dragon]

Honestly felt I was being quite liberal with the grading. And tbh... I was going off memory there.

[Bigblue25]

Most are fine, but 3 stars for Schwartz?

[Dragon]

I actually meant to put 2 there. He's been ok, but his injury prone nature makes him not worth the money we spent on him.

 

And as a sidenote... Vereen was on the fence between 3 and 4 stars, but since I don't believe he's been utilized to his full potential yet I put it at 3.

[Herc]

Nicks was a bigger impact player than Steve smith. 2011 alone makes him one of Reese's best moves

[Dragon]

As compared to each other, I'll definitely agree, but Imo Smith's impact on the team during his time was greater.

[Storm]

Notice how the team has had to rely more and more on free agents and street free agents and how we get basically zero production from rounds 4-7 in more recent years? Truly a testament to piss poor roster filling and the impact injury has had.

[Dragon]

Don't say that to Reese directly. He'll try to act tough and tell you to prove it.

 

I'm also concerned about the amount of 1 year contracts handed out year after year. It's like his idea is to cover the positional gap for a year and then address it the following offseason, but he never does.

[Allstarjim]

Dragon I haven't fully digested this work yet but so far I'm nodding my head a lot. But I will say Nicks was a lot more impactful than Smith. Smith had ONE very good season for us: 2009.

 

Nicks had 4,622 receiving yards and 27 TDs in his first stint with us, averaging 14.86 yards per catch, and two very good seasons, 2010 and 2011, in which he had two 1000 yard plus receiving seasons and a combined 18 TDs despite starting only 26 games in that span (out of 32 possible). Smith, on the other hand, in four seasons caught 220 balls for 2,386 yards and only 11 TDs. Yup, in four seasons he scored as many TDs as Nicks did in 2010 alone. And Smith was a possession receiver, averaging 10.84 yards per catch in his Giants' career.

 

Nicks was far and away the more dangerous and the more productive receiver than Smith. But both would've had a lot more Giants' accomplishments had they avoided the injury bug.

[Dragon]

Dragon I haven't fully digested this work yet but so far I'm nodding my head a lot. But I will say Nicks was a lot more impactful than Smith. Smith had ONE very good season for us: 2009.

 

Nicks had 4,622 receiving yards and 27 TDs in his first stint with us, averaging 14.86 yards per catch, and two very good seasons, 2010 and 2011, in which he had two 1000 yard plus receiving seasons and a combined 18 TDs despite starting only 26 games in that span (out of 32 possible). Smith, on the other hand, in four seasons caught 220 balls for 2,386 yards and only 11 TDs. Yup, in four seasons he scored as many TDs as Nicks did in 2010 alone. And Smith was a possession receiver, averaging 10.84 yards per catch in his Giants' career.

 

Nicks was far and away the more dangerous and the more productive receiver than Smith. But both would've had a lot more Giants' accomplishments had they avoided the injury bug.

That's why I replied to Herc the way I did. If we're talking player vs player, Nicks wins in a landslide, but that's not how I came to the conclusion. I wasn't looking at just statistical production, but rather overall value to their respective team at that time. For instance... just like when I brought up Randle vs Toomer, Smith was dealing with Eli going through growing pains and the 2008 Giants which were 97.5% run plays and he was the 3rd WR behind Burress and Toomer on those teams. He saw far less targets as a result. He made the most out of very limited opportunities and was almost a guaranteed chain mover on 3rd downs. As corny as it sounds I wish I could hear "3rd and Smith" nowadays.

 

Nicks was a very very good receiver. Hell... if I had a time machine I'd bring 2011 Nicks to the present to play alongside Beckham. I believe he was THAT good, but his impact on the team was very overshadowed by Victor Cruz, who IS rated 4 stars.

 

Long story short, I believe Smith was the impact WR for his teams while Nicks' impact to his teams was overshadowed by Cruz.

[Herc]

I mean cruz's value is 100% tied to nicks' health. He's done nothing but regress since 2011.

 

And nicks was also the mvp of that Super Bowl run. He had the second best postseason of all time and had 10 catches for 100+ yards in the Super Bowl. He really couldn't have been any more impactful for us that year.

 

The only reason he was "overshadowed" by cruz is because cruz drew a lot of media and fan attention to himself while nicks was low key

[gmenroc]

This evaluation means nothing if you're not going to compare it against the other GMs in the league.

 

It also seems to ignore playing time. I think if you get a backup LB in the 5th round who is a stalwart on special teams for 5 years, but only makes the occasional appearance on defense...I think that's a quality pick for that round. Also, the *** rating system seems to lack support. Is that just an opinion or is there something behind this all to show how those *s were awarded?

 

That said, it is a good writeup of what Reese has done.

[Dragon]

I mean cruz's value is 100% tied to nicks' health. He's done nothing but regress since 2011.

 

And nicks was also the mvp of that Super Bowl run. He had the second best postseason of all time and had 10 catches for 100+ yards in the Super Bowl. He really couldn't have been any more impactful for us that year.

 

The only reason he was "overshadowed" by cruz is because cruz drew a lot of media and fan attention to himself while nicks was low key

To be fair they both have regressed since 2011 and both because of injuries.

 

Again... I agree, but without the insane production from Cruz (and to a greater extent, Eli) we don't even make it into the playoffs in 2011 or be in position in 2012.

[Herc]

I agree with both points. Not saying cruz hasn't been an impact player, I just think they both were. In fact I would rank the 2011 impact players for that Super Bowl run as 1) nicks, 2) Cruz, 3) eli 4) Pierre-Paul

[JMFP]

Great post. I don't agree with everything, but the effort you put into it allows for objective discussion.

 

My main criticism of Reese is one of philosophy, especially as it regards the defense and linebackers. Defensive players and coaches have gone through this team like shit through a goose under Reese. Reese inherited a top 10 defense with the most fearsome pass rush in the NFL. Look at them now, 9 years later.

 

Meanwhile, I just watched the first week of the playoffs, and saw linebackers absolutely dominate the action.

 

Reese was asked about linebackers years ago, and arrogantly replied "who were the linebackers in 2007?".... Implying linebackers were next to useless, and insulting solid guys like Pierce and Mitchell. In 2011, Reese had to be arm twisted into bringing Chase Blackburn back while the season was hanging from a thread.

 

In short, our GM is the worst defensive GM I've seen in my history as a Giants fan. Granted it's a small sample size, but Reese clearly doesn't understand that you can't put all your eggs in the basket of a defensive end. Teams have been keying into the structural flaws of this defense for years.... Neutralize JPP, and have your way at the 2nd level,

 

Anyway great post, thanks for taking the time to demonstrate how badly Reese sucks.

[Dragon]

This evaluation means nothing if you're not going to compare it against the other GMs in the league.

 

It also seems to ignore playing time. I think if you get a backup LB in the 5th round who is a stalwart on special teams for 5 years, but only makes the occasional appearance on defense...I think that's a quality pick for that round. Also, the *** rating system seems to lack support. Is that just an opinion or is there something behind this all to show how those *s were awarded?

 

That said, it is a good writeup of what Reese has done.

If I got paid to do this I'd go about comparing Reese to the other GMs, but I dont have the time to invest into something I'm not getting compensated for. Besides... the point behind this wasn't to compare Reese to anyone. It was to show whether or not he was adequately improving our roster.

 

I don't mind getting role players. Every team needs them, but there is an obvious problem when it comes to building a competent LB corps. You cannot in any way believe that signing castoffs and waiting until day 3 on every occasion you decide to select a LB (mind you... only 1 since 2011) is a legitimate strategy. Someone else on here said he simply doesn't find it important and I completely agree. I don't believe a gm can operate that way.

 

The * rating is my way of trying to rank value of the player for his time on the roster. It's completely subjective and 100% my opinion... hence the ongoing debate about Steve Smith receiving 4* vs Nicks receiving 3*.

[gmenroc]

If I got paid to do this I'd go about comparing Reese to the other GMs, but I dont have the time to invest into something I'm not getting compensated for. Besides... the point behind this wasn't to compare Reese to anyone. It was to show whether or not he was adequately improving our roster.

 

I don't mind getting role players. Every team needs them, but there is an obvious problem when it comes to building a competent LB corps. You cannot in any way believe that signing castoffs and waiting until day 3 on every occasion you decide to select a LB (mind you... none since 2011) is a legitimate strategy. Someone else on here said he simply doesn't find it important and I completely agree. I don't believe a gm can operate that way.

 

The * rating is my way of trying to rank value of the player for his time on the roster. It's completely subjective and 100% my opinion... hence the ongoing debate about Steve Smith receiving 4* vs Nicks receiving 3*.

I agree that Reese should be shown the door because I agree with you, that there are areas of this team that are neglected and there are a lot of misses both in the draft and in free agency. But, I'd want to make darn sure that he misses more than other GMs in the league before I'd go firing him.

 

I did a huge draft evaluation by team last year or the year before. I used games played as one parameter and a career AV stat (I think) from pro-football-reference (I think). The first placed an emphasis on number of games so that I could attribute value to the lower draft pick who started 10 years on special teams alone. The second placed value on the impact of the games played. I ended up multiplying those scores by the round the player was drafted in...so that you'd get a higher score for finding that player in the 6th round that started every game and performed well....because if two players had the same production but one was selected in the first round and the other was selected in the third round...that should be credited to the GM to get the same from the 3rd as someone else did from the 1st.

 

I know I don't have the spreadsheet anymore that I did, but I suppose I can try to look up the thread.

 

[NightFire]

Great post. I don't agree with everything, but the effort you put into it allows for objective discussion.

 

My main criticism of Reese is one of philosophy, especially as it regards the defense and linebackers. Defensive players and coaches have gone through this team like shit through a goose under Reese. Reese inherited a top 10 defense with the most fearsome pass rush in the NFL. Look at them now, 9 years later.

 

Meanwhile, I just watched the first week of the playoffs, and saw linebackers absolutely dominate the action.

 

Reese was asked about linebackers years ago, and arrogantly replied "who were the linebackers in 2007?".... Implying linebackers were next to useless, and insulting solid guys like Pierce and Mitchell. In 2011, Reese had to be arm twisted into bringing Chase Blackburn back while the season was hanging from a thread.

 

In short, our GM is the worst defensive GM I've seen in my history as a Giants fan. Granted it's a small sample size, but Reese clearly doesn't understand that you can't put all your eggs in the basket of a defensive end. Teams have been keying into the structural flaws of this defense for years.... Neutralize JPP, and have your way at the 2nd level,

 

Anyway great post, thanks for taking the time to demonstrate how badly Reese sucks.

 

And this is why Reese needs to go. His arrogance is impacting this team because he refuses to admit any issues in his drafting or FA signings. Any time a reporter tries point out issues it's always met with a brush off answer. I'd bet Reese threw Coughlin under the bus and kicked him a few times. He constantly acts like he makes no mistakes.

[Allstarjim]

Come on Lone Wolf... Didn't u see him in the press conference? He said he takes full responsibility.... While passing around the responsibility.

[gmenroc]

My previous Reese comparison:

 

http://www.sportswrath.com/index.php?showtopic=50931&hl=%2Breese+%2Bcomparison