Don't mean to be a broken record

[ksm7]

Speaking of absolutely clueless... which ones of his 28 carries do you not like? We've played twelve games. The first 5 games the kid had 7 carries. Ask any RB if they can get going on a carry here or a carry there. You can't get into the rhythm of the game like that, or get a feel for the game speed by coming into the game and getting one or two touches. He's a rookie, too. Early on, he had some issues... his ONE fumble on this season, a dropped pass here and there. But now is the time.... it's past time. Get him the ball, because he hasn't really had an opportunity to succeed or fail. On that 5th game, Wilson gets a 40 yard TD run, one of his two carries against the Browns. So the next week he is rewarded with 7 carries... his high total on the season. Against one of the best defenses in the NFL, the 49ers, he runs for 35 yards, a 5.0 avg, including a 20 yarder. Then after that... 4 straight games... only 3 carries total. That's silly. GB game he got 6 carries, didn't find much room. But he was also running the ball there in the 4th quarter of a blowout... obvious run situation, kill clock time. GB just loading the box.

 

And then 4 carries in this last game. If you think 28 carries in 12 games is a fair shake... I don't know what to tell you. Even with the GB game, and considering all carries on the year, he's a 4.0 ypc back with a 40 yard TD. That's not bad for a guy who has really just been getting a carry or two here and there, and nearly a quarter of his carries came in one game in the 4th quarter of a blowout.

 

I don't see a kid who doesn't know what he's doing out there. I see a dangerous talent needing a real shot to prove himself. One that is desperate to prove himself... at times earlier in the season, there was a good excuse. Andre Brown was the backup and was running very well. Now, Brown is not part of the picture. Wilson is the backup, but we see a guy on the field that was just signed this past week, who has been cut by multiple teams?

 

It bothers me more coming off a 1 point loss. Because I see a player that can turn that 1 point loss into a win if given the chance. I see a player that can make drives end in TD's and not FG's.

 

And Joe, I have to say, Bradshaw didn't have a great game. He had a great first half. He had a poor second half. He and the Giants got very little on the ground in the second half. Which was a major reason we couldn't sustain a drive after halftime.

 

this debate is so comical that the dog had to briefly poke his head out to weigh in...so here it goes.

 

david wilson is suddenly the second coming of jim brown. so let's take a look a closer look at this, shall we? you want to applaud his 4 yard a carry average, demonstrating his value despite limited touches, highlighted by a 40 yard td run and a 7 carry for 35 yard game against the 49ers which included a 20 yard run. the dog's further analysis:

 

the 40 yard run is being highlighted as if it was reminiscent of the great barry sanders in his prime, when in reality it was a 40 yard dash through a solid hole against one of the worst teams in the league with 5 minutes left in a game where they were already up two scores and the starting back had already torched the defense for 200 yards of rushing...this wasnt an electrifying game changing play against the steelers defense. it was a nice sprint against an already exploited garbage run defense.

 

against the 49ers he had 7 carries for 35 yards, which included a 20 yard run. that means the rest of that game, young david wilson had 6 carries for 15 yards, a poultry 2.5 yards a carry, which, when you take away the 40 yard run against the putrid browns, he achieved what he has all year - a 2.6 yard a carry average.

 

"but Italian Hotdog," you will plead, "he hasnt had enough carries to prove his value and display his talents"...well, he has had 26 other carries from scrimmage this year, and in all of those carries, his next longest run, hold on to your hats everyone, is 5 yards. then he had two 4 yard runs...he is so explosive and such a talent that in 26 other carries (not to mention the two catches that went for an explosive 5 yards in total), he has not been able to get more than 4-5 yards once...really?

 

but this isnt even what is most comical. what is most comical is this: of all the fan bases in the league, giant fans more than any other should be recognizing the value of their coaching staff. a coaching staff that has won 2 super bowls in 5 years, taking a team that had less overall talent than others that they faced on the road to win. twice. a team that at multiple times during both seasons had no pulse. these coaches managed to maintain a team's focus, motivation, and effort where a lot of coaches would have had the team quit on them. yet, you (the dog is looking mainly at you "allstar"jim), continue to believe that you know more than they do. you, sitting on your couch, not privy to being on the practice field, in the meeting rooms, on the sidelines, know more than they do. people want to diminish things like him not knowing what he needs to yet to be on the field, but the dog would safely presume that the first time he is on the field and misses an audible, goes the wrong way, fans on a block...etc... and precious little eli gets obliterated by a blitzing linebacker as a result, and finds himself out for the season, somehow you will all find a way to blame the coaches for playing a player that wasnt ready. comical.

 

maybe wilson will be great. maybe he'll get on the field and prove his value in the next few weeks...when the professional coaches believe he is ready to do so...but to base your argument on his production to date just makes no sense. he has done very little to show much of anything. in the future, the dog suggests watching the game as a fan without trying to live in the fantasy world that you are coaching the team. leave that to those who actually...coach for a living. you'll probably find it more enjoyable.

 

there now, the dog feels cleansed. time to go back into hibernation...

the dog suggests in the future try

[Mr. P]

[Sephiroth]

this debate is so comical that the dog had to briefly poke his head out to weigh in...so here it goes.

 

david wilson is suddenly the second coming of jim brown. so let's take a look a closer look at this, shall we? you want to applaud his 4 yard a carry average, demonstrating his value despite limited touches, highlighted by a 40 yard td run and a 7 carry for 35 yard game against the 49ers which included a 20 yard run. the dog's further analysis:

 

the 40 yard run is being highlighted as if it was reminiscent of the great barry sanders in his prime, when in reality it was a 40 yard dash through a solid hole against one of the worst teams in the league with 5 minutes left in a game where they were already up two scores and the starting back had already torched the defense for 200 yards of rushing...this wasnt an electrifying game changing play against the steelers defense. it was a nice sprint against an already exploited garbage run defense.

 

against the 49ers he had 7 carries for 35 yards, which included a 20 yard run. that means the rest of that game, young david wilson had 6 carries for 15 yards, a poultry 2.5 yards a carry, which, when you take away the 40 yard run against the putrid browns, he achieved what he has all year - a 2.6 yard a carry average.

 

"but Italian Hotdog," you will plead, "he hasnt had enough carries to prove his value and display his talents"...well, he has had 26 other carries from scrimmage this year, and in all of those carries, his next longest run, hold on to your hats everyone, is 5 yards. then he had two 4 yard runs...he is so explosive and such a talent that in 26 other carries (not to mention the two catches that went for an explosive 5 yards in total), he has not been able to get more than 4-5 yards once...really?

 

but this isnt even what is most comical. what is most comical is this: of all the fan bases in the league, giant fans more than any other should be recognizing the value of their coaching staff. a coaching staff that has won 2 super bowls in 5 years, taking a team that had less overall talent than others that they faced on the road to win. twice. a team that at multiple times during both seasons had no pulse. these coaches managed to maintain a team's focus, motivation, and effort where a lot of coaches would have had the team quit on them. yet, you (the dog is looking mainly at you "allstar"jim), continue to believe that you know more than they do. you, sitting on your couch, not privy to being on the practice field, in the meeting rooms, on the sidelines, know more than they do. people want to diminish things like him not knowing what he needs to yet to be on the field, but the dog would safely presume that the first time he is on the field and misses an audible, goes the wrong way, fans on a block...etc... and precious little eli gets obliterated by a blitzing linebacker as a result, and finds himself out for the season, somehow you will all find a way to blame the coaches for playing a player that wasnt ready. comical.

 

maybe wilson will be great. maybe he'll get on the field and prove his value in the next few weeks...when the professional coaches believe he is ready to do so...but to base your argument on his production to date just makes no sense. he has done very little to show much of anything. in the future, the dog suggests watching the game as a fan without trying to live in the fantasy world that you are coaching the team. leave that to those who actually...coach for a living. you'll probably find it more enjoyable.

 

there now, the dog feels cleansed. time to go back into hibernation...

the dog suggests in the future try

 

The secret is revealed. You love the New York Giants.

 

Most Giants fans don't even remember all of that shit.

[CrazedDogs]

The good news is the last player Italian Hotdog felt the need to crap all over on these boards went on to win a Super Bowl MVP. So... we all know what an expert he is.

[fringe]

this debate is so comical that the dog had to briefly poke his head out to weigh in...so here it goes.

 

david wilson is suddenly the second coming of jim brown. so let's take a look a closer look at this, shall we? you want to applaud his 4 yard a carry average, demonstrating his value despite limited touches, highlighted by a 40 yard td run and a 7 carry for 35 yard game against the 49ers which included a 20 yard run. the dog's further analysis:

 

the 40 yard run is being highlighted as if it was reminiscent of the great barry sanders in his prime, when in reality it was a 40 yard dash through a solid hole against one of the worst teams in the league with 5 minutes left in a game where they were already up two scores and the starting back had already torched the defense for 200 yards of rushing...this wasnt an electrifying game changing play against the steelers defense. it was a nice sprint against an already exploited garbage run defense.

 

against the 49ers he had 7 carries for 35 yards, which included a 20 yard run. that means the rest of that game, young david wilson had 6 carries for 15 yards, a poultry 2.5 yards a carry, which, when you take away the 40 yard run against the putrid browns, he achieved what he has all year - a 2.6 yard a carry average.

 

Some things will never change.

[Treehugger]

The secret is revealed. You love the New York Giants.

 

Most Giants fans don't even remember all of that shit.

 

No, idiot, he's just a fan of football in general. I'm sure he has an encyclopedic knowledge of every rookie. Duh.

[JackStroud]

Which doesn't belong and why?

 

I meant to play Perrilloux in the last 2 preseason games.........talk about a guy who looked fantastic and did not get a legit shot......sheeeshhhhhh

in the time he played Perrilloux looked like the best QB on the roster

 

David Carr is a Caucasian Mark Sanchez

[Herc]

bump

[Allstarjim]

LMAO. Thanks Herc. This guy's talent is more than obvious to anyone with half a brain. And how courageous of you to come out of hiding 8 or 9 months later after you were proved to be a fool yet again. You are a glutton for punishment. I have you on ignore, but sometimes it's just fun to read some jackassery.

 

I love it though... you take away his long run and his average is only 2.5. LMAO. Try that with most RB's in the NFL... happens all the time. The point is he is CAPABLE and talented enough to get that one, long, game changing run. That is what you want. There isn't a RB in the league that isn't stopped for 2 and 3 yard gains a few times in a row in small samples.

 

But, finally, Wilson got a chance to do something a little more than the token 3-5 carries and whaddaya know. And he took his 52 yarder to the house when New Orleans was selling out on the run. First 100 yard game... first of many.

[TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt]

LMAO. Thanks Herc. This guy's talent is more than obvious to anyone with half a brain. And how courageous of you to come out of hiding 8 or 9 months later after you were proved to be a fool yet again. You are a glutton for punishment. I have you on ignore, but sometimes it's just fun to read some jackassery.

 

I love it though... you take away his long run and his average is only 2.5. LMAO. Try that with most RB's in the NFL... happens all the time. The point is he is CAPABLE and talented enough to get that one, long, game changing run. That is what you want. There isn't a RB in the league that isn't stopped for 2 and 3 yard gains a few times in a row in small samples.

 

But, finally, Wilson got a chance to do something a little more than the token 3-5 carries and whaddaya know. And he took his 52 yarder to the house when New Orleans was selling out on the run. First 100 yard game... first of many.

 

Double-Bump...

[Allstarjim]

High five, T. Damn it feels good to be a Giants fan.

[TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt]

High five, T. Damn it feels good to be a Giants fan.

 

Hells yeah Bro...got to watch the last half of the third quarter and the fourth in the laundromat as all our basements around here are flooded out due to Hurricane Sandy...it was invigorating watching the Giants tee off during the spin cycle...