STOP THROWING THE BALL TO OUR PROBOWL TE!!!!!!

[NeMesiS]

That's the message TO gave to Tony Romo and Red Jesus. (Jason Garrett) in a Private meeting...

 

DallasNews.com

 

T.O., Patrick Crayton and Roy Williams meet with Jason Garrett

 

Terrell Owens, Patrick Crayton and Roy Williams held a private meeting with offensive coordinator Jason Garrett to discuss their concerns about the offense.

 

Garrett said it was a productive meeting and welcomes more of them.

 

"It's something that I've talked about with our guys all the time, communicate, talk," Garrett said. "We're in this together, when things are going well when things aren't going exactly the way we want them too we will resolve them together."

 

There is a perception that most of the passes are going to Jason Witten, who has 16 catches for 188 yards with one touchdown the last three games.

 

But Terrell Owens has just eight catches the last two weeks after his seven catch performance against San Francisco and Patrick Crayton has just four catches the last three weeks. Roy Williams has seven catches for 103 yards the last three weeks with no touchdowns.

[Treehugger]

tick tick tick tick...

[Nesta]

meltdown in 5...4...3...

 

does anyone on the team get thrown at more than TO?

[BadEgg]

Nothing that one win Sunday night won't cure. But, like I alluded to in another post, their time would be better spent figuring out how to stop the two-headed monster in Carolina. If the Giants get lucky, they may get to play there. Who knows?

[Nesta]

Nothing that one win Sunday night won't cure. But, like I alluded to in another post, their time would be better spent figuring out how to stop the two-headed monster in Carolina. If the Giants get lucky, they may get to play there. Who knows?

 

I hate to break it to ya, but even if you edge us on Sunday (possible if we're without Jacobs) Baltimore is going to make Romo's performance against Pitt look like a good day. That second loss will take any wildcard chances out of your hands.

[Lughead]

Nothing that one win Sunday night won't cure. But, like I alluded to in another post, their time would be better spent figuring out how to stop the two-headed monster in Carolina. If the Giants get lucky, they may get to play there. Who knows?

 

 

OH YEAH

 

that makes a lot more sense

 

lets just over look The Conference leader and jump to the Conference championship game before we are even in the Playoffs

 

Man Boy you are reaching way out there ...... careful you dont fall out of you highchair.

[NeMesiS]

 

ESPN.com

 

Sources: T.O.'s expressed resentment toward Romo

 

According to multiple sources within the Dallas Cowboys, there is an emerging internal conflict involving three of the team's highest-profile stars.

 

 

As the preseason Super Bowl favorites struggle in the final month of the season to simply make the playoffs, wide receiver Terrell Owens has expressed resentment toward Tony Romo, apparently jealous of the quarterback's relationship with tight end Jason Witten.

 

Owens feels that Romo and Witten -- close friends and road roommates who came to Dallas in the same offseason -- hold private meetings in which they create plays the two will use in upcoming games without including Owens in the conversations, according to a source who speaks regularly with Owens' teammates. Owens believes these discussions have worked to his detriment as Romo seeks to deliver the ball to Witten regardless of whether Owens is open.

 

"I don't know anything about that," Wade Phillips said when asked about a possible rift at his news conference.

 

 

 

"I don't know anything about that part of it. We've thrown for a lot of yards with a lot of players. One receiver is pretty close to 1,000 yards. ... There's no favoritism there, we are going to the guy that is going to be open."

 

 

Owens declined to discuss the situation on Thursday outside the Cowboys' locker room. As he walked toward the players' lounge at Valley Ranch, ESPN asked Owens if he would answer questions and he said, "Nope.''

 

 

Linebacker Bradie James acknowledged to ESPN that his status as one of the team captains has caused him to play a peacemaker role between Romo and Owens.

 

"Whenever the fire gets blazing, I know,'' James said. "Sometimes, I don't want to step on anybody's toes, but we all talk.

 

"It just is what it is ... It's just two different guys, two different personalities and they know what's at stake. They know that everybody needs them. And there's no dislike. It's just sometimes, not everybody is going to see eye to eye. That's what makes a football team.''

 

 

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A current Cowboys player compared Owens' behavior to that which led to problems with his former quarterbacks, Jeff Garcia in San Francisco and Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia. Those failed relationships and problems with the head coaches and other teammates led to Owens' exile from those teams and made him available to Dallas owner Jerry Jones in 2006.

 

"He's insecure about it,'' the player said of Owens. "The thing that bothers me more than anything about this problem is that it's always something with him -- San Fran, Philly and here; always something. And he brings other people into it. You know, he talks to Sam Hurd and Roy Williams, who just got here and doesn't really know these guys. TO talks to him and so now he probably thinks Witten politics with Tony for the ball.

 

"That's so far from the truth. You think Tony is throwing to him because that's his buddy? His best buddy is Bobby Carpenter, and that's not helping him too much. It's crazy to think that, and I hate that he acts that way.''

 

Witten leads the Cowboys with 64 receptions to 55 for Owens, who has a team-high 848 receiving yards and nine touchdowns. According to one of the sources, Owens cannot fathom how Romo and offensive coordinator Jason Garrett justify the tight end having more catches than does Owens even though the latter ranks among the most accomplished receivers in NFL history.

 

There has so far been no known confrontation between Romo and Owens, who have combined for 33 touchdowns since 2006, the most of any quarterback-receiver tandem in the NFL during that time. Romo has always been careful to make certain Owens felt appreciated so that he would compete hard and not cause the kind of upheaval he did with his previous teams.

 

But one teammate suggested Romo is frustrated enough that he might initiate a different approach, although not the confrontational kind that some believe might solve the problem.

 

"To be completely honest, I just think Tony is over it; not like, "Screw it.' But I think Tony is over the mind games,'' the player said. "It would help if Tony would stand up to him, but he would never do it. He does a great job of ignoring it and not letting it affect him, and that's why it has worked as good as it has. It's just hard. I think right now everybody is to the point where, "We're going to need him, so let's not piss him off.''

 

But Owens seems to be finding it increasingly difficult to conceal his irritation. Last week in Pittsburgh, on the first possession of the Cowboys' most important game of the season, a team source who reviewed the game tape said Romo threw an interception when Owens mysteriously failed to complete his route. Troy Polamalu intercepted the ball at the place where Romo expected Owens to be. Later in the half, Romo underthrew a pass for Owens that was intercepted by Ike Taylor and Owens gestured openly in Romo's direction as he walked toward the sideline that the ball should have been thrown further upfield.

 

But what upset Owens' teammates most of all was his response to the interception Romo threw on a pass intended for Witten that Deshea Townsend returned for the game-winning touchdown in a 20-13 defeat. Both the quarterback and tight end publicly accepted blame for the Cowboys' season-high fifth turnover. In contrast, Owens said the offense stunk, that the team can't win with turnovers like those and then suggested his defender was playing off in single coverage and that he was open but Romo decided to throw elsewhere on the fatal play.

 

On the sideline, Owens was seen yelling at a Cowboys assistant coach. In his press conference after the game, Owens implied that Romo's decision to throw to Witten was the wrong one, saying, "It's his job to go out there and assess what the defense is, and he made that decision.''

 

That incensed some Cowboys, one of whom said, "If you only knew all that guy does. It's gonna go down with him before it's all over with. He is unbelievable. Tough loss and he does that?''

 

Until then, Cowboys insiders considered Owens' most damaging behavior the interview he did with former Cowboys cornerback Deion Sanders on the NFL Network in which he suggested Dallas' offensive system under Garrett was responsible for his worst statistical season since his rookie year with the 49ers. Owens also hinted that Romo and the other Dallas quarterbacks who played when the starter was injured were not making getting him the ball a high enough priority. "I can't throw it and catch it,'' Owens said.

 

At least one prominent Cowboys player was displeased that the coaching staff responded to the criticism by seemingly placating Owens in that Sunday's game against San Francisco, allowing him enough opportunities that he posted his best statistical line as a Cowboy: seven catches for 213 yards, including 75-yard TD.

 

"Well, TO got his way,'' the player said. "It never fails how we operate around here. Drives me crazy, but what can you do?''

 

Cowboys coach Wade Phillips justified Owens' argument by agreeing that getting him the ball needed to be the first offensive priority, and then owner Jerry Jones further empowered him by claiming he had no issue with anything Owens said in the interview.

 

Said another source: "What do you think he said after he complained about not getting the ball and then in the San Francisco game he gets 213? He said, "Look. It works. The more hell I raise, the more I get what I want.''

 

Owens in March signed a four-year contract extension worth $34 million, including a $12.9 million signing bonus to bind him to the Cowboys through the 2011 season.

 

When asked if Romo and Owens were all right together as the team prepares to play the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants on Sunday, James said, "Yeah. It's gotta be. It better be.''

 

The latest controversy comes toward the end of a season that began with Owens saying in training camp that he shared a relationship with Romo that he never had with other quarterbacks with whom he played. That, Owens said, was because Romo knew he was the star of the Cowboys and was not threatened by Owens' status as were previous quarterbacks.

 

"I guess sometimes I've just been in situations where the quarterbacks felt like I was bigger than them,'' Owens said in July. "And, you know, that was never the case. I felt like whatever I did complemented the quarterback, whatever he did, vice versa. It's just been a situation where things happen, where things didn't work out.''

 

Romo seemed equally at peace with Owens. "The thing about it is there's a genuine caring about each other. I actually want the guy to succeed. He works hard, he works his butt off. And he cares about the guys, so it's easy to root for a guy like that.

 

"It's important for us to be on the same page. It's important for us to care about the other one, just because our success is directly related. ... The thing you notice mostly about him is that he talks about 'team' a lot. He wants to win. He understands that, at this stage of his career, he's done all the things individually he can do. Now, it's just a matter of winning.''

 

Whether it is like that anymore -- and whether the Cowboys can achieve their own stated goals with the relationship between Owens and Romo and Witten being what it is now -- remains to be determined.

 

Since Romo became Dallas' starter, he has completed more passes to Witten than to Owens, 201-186, although Owens has significantly more yards and three times as many touchdowns.

 

"You really want to address it with him and say, "Are you serious? Let's cut the [sh--]. But we're trying to win our way into the playoffs and, if something like that happened, if you backed him into a corner, he'd be pissed off and try to fight you or something,'' the current Cowboys player said. "So what do you do? Let it go? Then you're just like everybody else. If he's got a problem and he's upset, clear the air. He should know that everything we do on offense goes through him."

 

Ed Werder covers the NFL for ESPN.

[UK-Giantsfan]

such a shame ...so sad ...i could cry

[NeMesiS]

such a shame ...so sad ...i could cry

TO is saying, The way Tony and Jason are so close. TO is wondering if Jason be considered a TE anymore.

[NightFire]

TO is saying, The way Tony and Jason are so close. TO is wondering if Jason be considered a TE anymore.

 

Well apparently Owens is gay so maybe that's why he gets mad at QBs when they ignore him.

[Lughead]

TO is saying, The way Tony and Jason are so close. TO is wondering if Jason be considered a TE anymore.

 

 

Witten that home wrecker

 

Romo was My Quarterback and you stole him away

 

all the way to Mexico for a week fling and used a skank

 

to cover it all up :cwy: :cwy: :cwy:

[so-cal dub]

Sorry, no link. I just heard this on Sportscenter breaking news. T.O. is starting shit with Romo about going to Witten instead of him..

 

I love it! T.O. starting shit with Romo and J.Jones starting shit with Barber. What a classy franchise... I really wish we were Americas team.

 

 

Think this carries over to the game on Sunday?

[so-cal dub]

Oops... I just started a thread on this same topic.

 

 

You can delete it if you want.

[xxi-xxv]

Nothing that one win Sunday night won't cure. But, like I alluded to in another post, their time would be better spent figuring out how to stop the two-headed monster in Carolina. If the Giants get lucky, they may get to play there. Who knows?

 

Yes you are correct, they should worry about that team, assuming that is they are in the playoffs. Last I checked only one NFC east team could be allowed to look that far ahead.

[ksm7]

I hate to break it to ya, but even if you edge us on Sunday (possible if we're without Jacobs) Baltimore is going to make Romo's performance against Pitt look like a good day. That second loss will take any wildcard chances out of your hands.

 

built in excuse alert...althought the dog might argue that this is weak as far excuses go...

[Nesta]

built in excuse alert...althought the dog might argue that this is weak as far excuses go...

 

At least I'm not proclaiming we will win, AND dropping excuses like your butt buddy.

 

I'm just being honest.

[ksm7]

At least I'm not proclaiming we will win, AND dropping excuses like your butt buddy.

 

I'm just being honest.

 

Fair enough...the dog has been clear of his opinion on jacobs and the injury excuses used by anyone...that's all...

[Nesta]

Fair enough...the dog has been clear of his opinion on jacobs and the injury excuses used by anyone...that's all...

 

Eh, whether you admit it or not, Jacobs is extremely important to us in wearing down a defense early in the game.

Not to say we can't win with Ward/Bradshaw.

[Treehugger]

lets just over look The Conference leader and jump to the Conference championship game before we are even in the Playoffs

I wonder if Jerry's printed the tickets yet? :lol:

[ppodlesny]

"but that's my qwaurtaback man!"

[ksm7]

Eh, whether you admit it or not, Jacobs is extremely important to us in wearing down a defense early in the game.

Not to say we can't win with Ward/Bradshaw.

 

maybe. but the giants and the fans have prided themselves on being a team, and winning as a complete team...that is what super bowl caliber teams do. injuries impact all teams, so the dog doesn't like it as an excuse. the fact is, the giants are 3 deep in that position, and have the best o-line in the league...jacobs is less of a factor then a number of players in the league...and the dog gets killed for this regulary, but here it goes, jacobs is overrated by fans as a quality back.

[RandolphScott]

I wonder if Jerry's printed the tickets yet? :lol:

 

 

"Don't say this to the media but...Jerry just sent the tickets over, we're all set."

Tom Coughlin.

[Nesta]

maybe. but the giants and the fans have prided themselves on being a team, and winning as a complete team...that is what super bowl caliber teams do. injuries impact all teams, so the dog doesn't like it as an excuse. the fact is, the giants are 3 deep in that position, and have the best o-line in the league...jacobs is less of a factor then a number of players in the league...and the dog gets killed for this regulary, but here it goes, jacobs is overrated by fans as a quality back.

 

doggy, you might have a point if I had said 'we will lose without Jacobs'. What I said was 'it's possible'. Hell it's possible with Jacobs, just more likely without him. Without him we have one less set of fresh legs in the 4th qtr.

 

Jacobs is rarely on the radar as far as 'quality back' discussions.

Lets evaluate where he stands amongst the league's quality backs:

15th in attempts. 16.2 per game. And 7th in ypg.

9th in yards, and of the 8 above him only Deangelo Williams has a higher ypc. (5.1)

4th in rushing TD's. 7th in 1st downs. 3rd in 20+ yard runs.

 

Sounds like a quality back to me, nevermind that he's only gotten better each year in the league.

 

 

[BadEgg]

maybe. but the giants and the fans have prided themselves on being a team, and winning as a complete team...that is what super bowl caliber teams do. injuries impact all teams, so the dog doesn't like it as an excuse. the fact is, the giants are 3 deep in that position, and have the best o-line in the league...jacobs is less of a factor then a number of players in the league...and the dog gets killed for this regulary, but here it goes, jacobs is overrated by fans as a quality back.

 

Just cut to the heart of it, Dog. Jacobs is overrated for two reasons:

 

(1) He needs an o-line that blows huge holes open at the line of scrimmage. Otherwise, he dances in the backfield like a 260 pound ballerina and gets tackled. Great backs, like Emmitt Smith and even Tiki Barber had the ability to shift their bodies and snake through creases in the o-line on plays that the blocking was not up to par. To a degree, the other two backs the Giants have can probably do this effectively. Jacobs does not.

 

(2) For as much punshment Jacobs dishes out in the open field he takes as much. As a result, he is injury prone. It would be foolish to give the guy a long-term lucrative deal. This may not be Jacob's fault because of his size, but he probably could shield himself at times a little better and maybe avoid some hits. Smaller backs can minimalize the impact on their bodies, at least to an extent. It is more difficult for Jacobs.

 

The Giants should not need him. There have been many teams that have won championships without running backs that are as big as Jacobs. In fact, the only team that comes to mind off the top of my head that won a Superbowl recently with a back that perhaps could be compared to Jacobs is the Steeler and Bettis.

 

 

 

[Nesta]

Just cut to the heart of it, Dog. Jacobs is overrated for two reasons:

 

(1) He needs an o-line that blows huge holes open at the line of scrimmage. Otherwise, he dances in the backfield like a 260 pound ballerina and gets tackled. Great backs, like Emmitt Smith and even Tiki Barber had the ability to shift their bodies and snake through creases in the o-line on plays that the blocking was not up to par. To a degree, the other two backs the Giants have can probably do this effectively. Jacobs does not.

 

(2) For as much punshment Jacobs dishes out in the open field he takes as much. As a result, he is injury prone. It would be foolish to give the guy a long-term lucrative deal. This may not be Jacob's fault because of his size, but he probably could shield himself at times a little better and maybe avoid some hits. Smaller backs can minimalize the impact on their bodies, at least to an extent. It is more difficult for Jacobs.

 

The Giants should not need him. There have been many teams that have won championships without running backs that are as big as Jacobs. In fact, the only team that comes to mind off the top of my head that won a Superbowl recently with a back that perhaps could be compared to Jacobs is the Steeler and Bettis.

 

 

Tiki Barber and Emmitt Smith were NFL Elite. If Barber had stuck around 1 more year he might be heading to the HOF along with Smith.

No one here has ever put BJ in the same company with either of these two. I guess that makes you the one idiot who did.

 

It's hard to shield your knees egghead. That's the only part of his body taking punishment.

 

The cowgirls shouldn't need Barber either right, but they do. Speaking of overrated....