420

I hate this week

I don't pay any attention to anything I hear or read this week. Remember: NY Post = Boston Herald.

Thanks

Oh, I see the difference now. One troll is liked better than the others. Their goals are the same. The Fab 4 never name called either and spoke a ton of truth, albeit all negative but truth none the same. People reacted to wht they were trying to do rather than what they were saying. Just like now for most. They didn't listen to reason and neither does this current one.

Christians who feel slighted that people aren't punished enough for saying disparaging remarks against their beliefs should be happy about this. If she said "Fuck (other holy person of your choice)" she would have been fired immediately.

I am envious. :brooding: Personally, I'd rather go to a SB that my team wasn't in. Not excatly sure why but that's how I feel.

2005?

Pittsburgh Cincy Denver Indy

For the record I never had a problem with people responding to his or her posts. My point was the hypocrisy of it all.

Word.

FirstnTen still posts here.

Nice job. I can't get over the music you like. It's like a total opposite of the way you look. The two cannot be any more different; polar opposites. You look mean and ballsy but your music preferences are well...not. Not at all.

Great news Golfindude1027!

SI Article Once written off as an extreme long shot in the long-running Johan Santana drama, the Mets may actually be the favorite now. At the very least, there are indications now that they are engaging in more regular dialogue with the Twins in recent days than either the Red Sox or Yankees. And Mets general manager Omar Minaya, who loves a big deal but hasn't made one since the winter before last, has told some people in the business, "We have a shot.'' Minaya declined to comment when I reached him on Tuesday. But there are some definite signs that the Twins may be warming to the idea of taking a package of projects and prospects with high ceilings while not insisting on much in the way of major-league help. Which, if true, would give the Mets a real shot. When Minnesota began shopping Santana in early December, I was told the Twins would have to get Jose Reyes back in a Mets deal, a non-starter for the Mets who understandably consider Reyes a cornerstone player and aren't about to deal him for a pitcher -- even a great pitcher -- who's a year away from free agency and would require an extension at $22-to-$25 million. But in recent weeks I was told that there was indeed a Mets deal to be made, even without Reyes or David Wright or someone of that ilk. That the Twins and Mets continue to talk seems to support that assertion. But for the Mets to actually land Santana it will take at least two significant hurdles being cleared, and that doesn't include having to negotiate a long-term contract with him. First, the Mets have to agree to send over a package of many real prospects, probably five or more, which would considerably deplete their minor-league resources. Second, the Red Sox and Yankees, who are both better stocked at the upper reaches of the minors, have to continue to take a less then enthusiastic approach in the competition to add one of the game's top two pitchers. Neither the Red Sox, who have seemed consistently lukewarm in this derby, nor the Yankees, who have run hot and cold, has been as aggressive as one might expect considering their longstanding fight over players big and small. At this point, it appears either might simply be happy not to see Santana go to the other. The Red Sox have stuck for weeks with their offer of two separate deals, one led by young lefthander Jon Lester and the other by young center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury. Boston also appears willing to include three more prospects with each, including decent young players such as infielder Jed Lowrie and pitchers Justin Masterson and Michael Bowden. However, Boston has been consistent in refusing to combine both Lester and Ellsbury in the same package. Red Sox GM Theo Epstein has seemed very comfortable with his offers and has given the impression that he could live without Santana, understandable in that the world champions may already have baseball's best rotation without him. The Yankees remain the wild card. GM Brian Cashman has made the rejuvenation of the team's farm system his calling card and is said to be against trading even one top-flight young pitcher, such as Phil Hughes. But newly-empowered general partner Hank Steinbrenner is said by insiders to be much more willing to do what it takes in terms of prospects and dollars to land Santana. However, Steinbrenner's younger son, the less free-wheeling and more buttoned-down Hal, who's said to be in charge of the purse strings, is believed to be siding with Cashman's call to proceed cautiously. Club insiders could see the two sons eventually butting heads over a major expenditure such as this one, but with Cashman strongly siding with the junior Steinbrenner they aren't sure whether Hank will press the issue over Santana. Ultimately, unless Hank is willing to fight his brother and a general manager he's hoping to retain beyond 2008 (Cashman has not yet discussed an extension, preferring instead to see how things play out in the new hierarchy), the Yankees are unlikely to accede to the Twins' requests to go beyond Hughes, outfielder Melky Cabrera, pitching prospect Jeffrey Marquez and a lesser prospect. With the Red Sox and Yankees less aggressive than one might expect, there still may be an opening for the Mets, who need Santana much more than the other two teams. For them, Santana would be a perfect fit, the No. 1 pitcher to go in front of Pedro Martinez and John Maine and make the fans and players focus on something other than the team's dreadful finish to the 2007 season. The current prospects on the table appear to be outfielder Carlos Gomez plus pitchers Deolis Guerra, Phil Humber and Kevin Mulvey. None of these players is likely to make the immediate impact of a Lester, an Ellsbury or a Hughes. But some scouts believe the overall talent will be greater in a Mets package, and that they should work it out with the team from Queens. It appears the Twins may favor Gomez over Fernando Martinez because Gomez can play center field, a need since the defection of fan favorite Torii Hunter to the Angels, and may actually like Humber as much as the Mets' more ballyhooed pitching prospect Mike Pelfrey, whose stock waned last season. In any case the Twins aren't as desperate for immediate pitching help as some might imagine, since they are well-stocked with minor-league arms. Some Mets officials have an impression that they could probably have Santana if they simply added Martinez to the mix, but one person familiar with the Mets thinking said he'd be surprised if the Mets agreed to do that, which would leave their minor-league system practically barren. Which explains why there still isn't a deal. In any case, it is understandable that the Twins are taking their time. They know what they can get from the Red Sox, who don't appear to have set a deadline, and probably remain hopeful that Hank Steinbrenner overrules both his brother and Cashman and adds top young pitcher Ian Kennedy to the mix. "Kennedy's as good as Hughes,'' opines one scout, "They shouldn't do that.'' Still, some are surprised at the restraint being showed by the Yankees, considering the threat of Santana going to the rival Red Sox. "If Boston gets Santana, they lock up the division the next three or four years,'' one competing executive says. Minnesota's first-year general manager Bill Smith is probably one of those surprised that the Yankees and Red Sox are showing a willingness to live without Santana, a two-time Cy Young winner who's healthy and will turn 29 next month. Smith is apparently having a hard time extracting fair value for Santana for a variety of reasons, most notably Santana's status as a player who's only one year from free agency, his ability to veto any trade and his expected price tag, which severely limits the field to all but the biggest markets (he is believed to be seeking a six-year deal for close to $25 million annually). However, time may start to work against Smith. Other execs could see Santana's agents, Peter and Ed Greenberg of New York, telling the Twins that their client will invoke his no-trade clause once the season starts since he'd be less than a year away from the riches of free agency and would want to concentrate on his craft. One other hurdle with the Mets could be the length of the contract. While the Red Sox and Yankees may be more amenable to a six-year deal for a superstar such as Santana, one person familiar with the Mets' thinking said he believed the team would stick to its policy of not going beyond five years for any player. Santana's rejection of the Twins' four-year, $80-million contract offer is what led to his being put on the trading block in the first place. However, the Mets apparently believe the right "structure'' (i.e. a deal for close to his asking price) could convince him to come east. If they can agree to compensation with Minnesota, most believe they'll work things out, since the Greenberg brothers also represent Reyes and maintain an excellent relationship with the Mets. Minnesota's Smith has a lot of heat on him now in the frigid Twin Cities. A consistently affable fellow, Smith was asked on Tuesday for a summary of where things stand. "Santana's still a Twin," he said. Then he politely declined to elaborate.

Boss turned out OK? No?

Att: 202 Yards: 1009 Yards per: 5.0 Who was closest?

There are a TON of Pats fans reading this thread as "guests".

You're not someone who goes by three names in real life are you?

There's another issue due out before the SB so it's all good....unless he's on that one too. Oh BTW, Brady has been the cover girl numerous times. How's that curse workin' out for him?

If my point was to boycott flamer threads then yes but it wasn't so no.

The point of my post was two fold and neither one of them were to hide any names. The people involved were relyoneli, firstnten and the Fab4. 1. To jog people's memory that this type of behavior from both sides was ridiculed and frowned upon just a little while ago and now it seems to be the popular thing to do. Hypocritical at worst and short sighted or selective memory at best. 2. To maybe show some of you if it wasn't already known that no matter what you say to someone who just wants to start trouble they will never, ever admit defeat and bothering you or eliciting scathing responses is their #1 goal.

I remember a while back a couple of members going town on a alleged group of people for doing what this guy is doing now. Other members ripped the 2 guys to shreds for encouraging the flamers by responding to their idiocy and calling them names. Some members even debated who was worse- the troublemakers or the 2 guys who ripped them every chance they got- and made suggestions to ban them as well as the "group". Just saying. This clown comes on here and whips everyone up into a frenzy. His threads are one of the most viewed and responded to on the board. You'll never, ever get the better of him no matter how hard you try and he'll never admit the things you ask him to but if you ignore him he will go away...if that's really what you want. I don't think it is and he probably doesn't either.

What would you say in return to this guy? 42-17 Pats. No offense, but this juggernaut will not and cannot be stopped. We morph into playing any kind of game....3 TE alignments to ram it down the throat to 5 WR spread Giants mybe playing well, but many things have gone well for them, including dumb playcalling on part of Cowboys (who kept running rather than attack your DB) and Pack(who completely abandoned the run in nasty cold weather). Our OL will be completely healthy, our blocking TE is full strength, as will our special teamers(two were out in wk 17), and our primary TE will not be hobbled by ankle injury. Despite all of this we hun a 38 spot on your jacked up team, even w/o a run game which was limited due to OL and TE injuries. Your suspect LB and secondary better show up because all that pressure from DL wont mean much. Also your DB showed they cannot play physical, case and point Donald Driver pushing aside your DB for a 90 yarder. If you double Moss and play press, Welker, Faulk, Maroney, Watson, Stallworth, Gaffney will have one on one matchups all day. If you chose not to double moss, well you saw the results in Wk 12. Finally, I will take TB/McDaniels O and BB/Pees D anytime with 2 weeks to prepare......we're 10-0 when given two weeks to prepare. All your NY media is talking about Giants will use the SB XV blueprint vs Buffalo. Well guess what, the architect of that Giants D was......ummm yea, you know. (420: That's a good point) From Pats D side, key is stop your run (which we did in wk 17...79 total yds) and now double up on Plastico. Make Eli goto Toomer "Mr dropsie" Giants also led the league in most dropped passes this year. Finito

"What satisfies me the most is the fact that no matter how bad you want your team to win, they're gonna lose. That has to be killing you! Seriously, look at both teams and the coaches and come up with 3 solid reasons why the Giant will win."

Quote: Originally Posted by Giants6timeworldchamps 18-0... not at 19 yet. By the way you never will get to 19. It will be so nice to see arrogance humbled!!! RESPONSE Damn!!! You mean we're only 18-0? I didn't know that! Smart NY fans - outsmarted us again!!! Hey - by the way, love your signature line... Did you rush out and buy those "Playoff Qualifier" T-Shirts in 2006? Pretty Damn impressive stuff if you don't mind me saying so... Hey guys... watch out... we're playing the Nine Time "Playoff Qualifiers"! Now where's that "shaking in my boots" emoticon? NFL World Champions 1927 1934 1938 1956 1986 1990 NFC Champions 1986 1990 2000 2007 NFL Eastern/American/National Division/Conference Champions 1933 1934 1935 1938 1939 1941 1944 1946 1956 1958 1959 1961 1962 1963 NFC Eastern Division Champions 1986 1989 1990 1997 2005 NFC Wild Card Winner/Playoff Qualifier 1943 1950 1981 1984 1985 1993 2002 2006 2007