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100%. And you don't produce the worst scoring offense in team history without there being something seriously wrong.

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Shhhh don't tell them that the Jones' offense = "if your first read isn't there, just scramble and run or hope for a busted coverage"

C'mon Vikings! Lol

Great move. Now trade Barkley for a 2nd or 3rd.

For all his shortcomings, Kent Graham.....Kent fucking Graham went 10-5 as the starter in 1998 - 1999 (5-4 in 1999, and the defense wasn't great that year). In 1999: 1,697 yards, 9 TDs, 9 INTS, 6.3 yards per attempt, and a 59% completion percentage. I'd fucking happily take this stat line over the next 9 games, and we're in the post-illegal contact, post can't headhunt, pro receiver ERA of the NFL, not the 90's anymore.

1976 Giants PPG: 12.1 2023 Giants PPG: 11.9 Also, the 1996 giants were a PPG of 15.1, the lowest scoring of the Dave Brown, Kanell, and Kent Graham era. LOL we're fucking worse than the mid-late 90's giants offenses.

The other thing is, if you're Carson Wentz, after yesterday: Do you really want to come play for the giants for 9 games behind this offensive line, running for your life, for a losing cause, all for a couple million or so? Especially when the Browns, Vikings, and Bears might be viable options?

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Him and Micah McFadden are really growing, plus to a lesser extent Robinson (the few times he gets his chances. That's the only consolation I have watching this team lol, plus hoping Banks, Hyatt, Flott, JMS, and Hawkins play well.

Heck, the Texans currently have three QB's on their active roster. Flip them a 7th rounder for Davis Mills, then you get a competent guy in there for this year, PLUS a good backup QB in 2024.

Correction, Jeff Driskel is a FA.

Devito shouldn't even be a practice squad QB if he can't be trusted to throw the ball beyond 1 yard. The Bears had a practice squad QB going for them the last two weeks, and they won one of those games, and the guy has over 400 yards so far just two games in. PJ Walker is another one for the Browns. Or look at Jeff Driskel on the Cardinals current practice squad (I'd take him right now). Not saying these guys are anything special but we wouldn't be running a high school style offense if we had them.

Still need to sign Wentz, or someone like Chase Daniel, asap.

Lol 100%.

I don't get why this needs to be so complicated for the Giants. Carson Wentz is a decent QB with extensive experience. It shouldn't even be a question to sign him today ASAP, even if Daniel Jones is expected to play this week. Even in that best case scenario, Jones is still injury prone, and Devito as the backup just doesn't cut it. Devito shouldn't even be on the roster if he can't be trusted to throw the ball more than 1 yard down field.

So for anyone watching Sunday night football, the Bears third string QB already has more passing yards than the Giants did all game today, and it's only the first quarter.

The Giants are the worst team in the league

I was thinking that with the overtime play calling, and the play calling in general.

If you don't trust Devito to throw an NFL pass, then you don't fucking have him on the roster. I'm so disgusted with this front office and coaching staff. The OT offensive sequence was a joke too.

Today was an absolute disgrace. - The play calling, even before the Taylor injury, was pathetic. - The fact that Barkley gave himself up when a 1st down wins the game demonstrates to me that this needs to be his last season with the Giants. It's clear the priority investments this off-season need to be at least two starting OL, and probably a third at this rate. - If Devito cannot be trusted to throw the ball, the why is he even in the roster? Why was Schoen and Daboll relying on him to backup Taylor who we know is injury prone? - As much of a disaster as our OL was, the Jets OL is bad too, yet still they managed to pass the ball with a garbage Zach Wilson, and made pass plays when it counted. This franchise is a joke. They really were an embarrassment today.

Thibs! Big time game for him.

Because two defensive lineman got upfield past our putrid OL

And here comes NJ's finest Tommy Devito. In the rain, with a putrid OL, against the stellar Jets defense

Our punter is currently the best player for the Giants today