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We probably won't be in a position to land Williams or Maye, but we should be above the Pats in the draft order, to get Penix, McCarthy, or Nix.

And forget the Evan Neal experiment. He's a dud. Keep him around to compete for a backup spot at guard or something but you don't go in to 2024 expecting him to start anywhere on the OL. Backup G at best at this point.

If it's as bad as rumor suggest, he's not getting back until November 2024, which means the Giants are definitely going to be looking at other options at QB, most likely through the draft. Just take the $40M in cap space and the giants three 1st-2nd round picks. That gives us 6-7 premium moves. Take a top QB with in the 1st (Penix looked good on Saturday, and there's also Bo Nix...5th year guys who can probably come in right away), and use the rest of the assets on the OL and DL respectively. 3 to 4 OL, 2 DL, and a QB. Use the mid-late round picks and lower tier FA's elsewhere (WR, DB, RB). Also bring in a backup QB like Gardner Minshew. Dude's a freakin baller over there for Indy, who at least makes the offense competent.

Was DJ injured on a sack or scramble? I can't recall from the broadcast. I remember he tried going back out there for another snap, only to fall down.

Jesus Christ we're pathetic

I don't think it's that complicated. If we draft a QB, Jones will be around for one more year until we can cut him with cap savings in 2025. At this rate he'll likely be a backup.

I didn't watch the game. I was driving and listening on the radio. So multiple times during the game, Carl Banks and Bob Papa insisted that the Giants offensive line wasn't doing that bad, after two of which times they said it was followed by a sack, another followed with a Devito scramble for a couple yards 🤦‍♂️. All in all 8 sacks on the day.

Daniel Jones totally scammed the Giants into a $160M contract

Fair enough. Looking ahead: By my count, with $40M in cap space this off-season and 3 draft picks in the top 50-55, that's enough for 6-7 key moves. Take one of the top QBs with the first round draft pick, then use the other 5-6 assets on OL and DL.

Giants won me $70 bucks today. Yeah they might have ruined DJ's career, but I'll have a few sushi days the next couple weeks now. At least he produced something...for me.

Daboll and co are giving McAdoo a run for the money in trying to coach your way out of a job via mishandling the QB situation. Meanwhile, today has strong 2017 vibes of that game vs the hapless 49ers where CJ Beathard and the horrible niners clowned us.

They're going to ruin this guy's neck, ala David Wilson.

I took the under 37.5 on today's game, and the Raiders at -1.5. I wish there was an over under on when DJ gets knocked out of the game: 2nd quarter I'd bet.

Soooo get ready for Tommy Devito again, and 29 runs in the 2nd half.

Because the OL sucked in both instances, and in the case of the Jets, that QB was in the game because the previous one got hurt running for his life, after the QB before him in a prior game got crushed because of an incompetent OL.

I'm speaking about the two specific games where we averaged less than 10 pts.

If the O line was competent, you're not in a position where one decision or FG makes it breaks the game.

A competent OL gets you the wins vs the Bills and Jets, plus makes you competitive and likely to win vs the Raiders, plus in general means your scoring more points in general. A competent OL means you're looking at possibly 7-5 or 6-6 heading into the bye. Not great, but not terrible. 3 of the next 4 games really SHOULD be wins if the team just had an OL. Barkley is averaging 3.7 yards per carry. That's not anything special. That can be easily replaced. At best they're an 8-10 win team with a competent OL. Without one, and with one this putrid OL well maybe 4-6 is what we're looking at.

We wouldn't have the worst scoring team offense in 57 years if we had 3 or 4 functional offensive lineman going into the season, and we'd very likely be 4-4, going on 5-4 after this weekend. Plus we wouldn't be getting embarrassed on prime time.

Hope and wishful thinking work when you have 3-4 rock solid proven guys on the line, and are only using wishful thinking on 1-2 others. For instance, JMS would have been much better suited if he were flanked by two capable guards, not the trash we have now.

Other than a slow 2 weeks to start the season, can't really complain.

Thibs with 12.5 has more sacks through his first 25 games than Osi, Tuck, and Strahan did through their 25 games, and it's not even close. Osi: 5 Tuck: 5.5 Strahan: 3 Granted his run defense isn't special but he's improving.

He's been injured for awhile now, but our dumb ass coaches insisted on putting him out there.

I'm also tired of hearing the suggestion "Well they've tried" or "It's not like they haven't tried to bring guys in to fix the OL." Gentleman in 2021 did nothing to address the OL, and insisted on going into the season with Nate Solder as a starter, not to mention Shane Lemiuex. We knew there were gaps going in; we rolled with the OL anyway. And I don't want to hear about the Nick Gates injury. That team OL wasn't one player away from being good or even average. 2023 they were banking on 4 guys not named Andrew Thomas to take a leap (or at least 3), but none of them did, and JMS is playing like a rookie. We knew there were gaps going in; we rolled with it anyway.

So are we just rolling with one TE this Sunday, Bellinger? A TE who has been banged up (thanks to that stupid failed scrum play against the 49ers). Not even bringing up Cager and/or Jackson? Jesus fucking Christ this team is a mess.