BleedinBlue Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 There seems to be some debate that the Giants are unhappy with Bennett....to the point that they think he will be cut before season begins. Here's a link to one of the stories: http://bloggingthebe...th-good-reason/ Don’t be surprised to see the Giants cut Martellus Bennett, and with good reason Jun 21st, 2012 by Jimmy Kempski A couple weeks ago, I attended Giants minicamp, and here's what I wrote about Martellus Bennett: "Bear Pascoe got a lot more reps with the 1′s today than Martellus Bennett. I watched Bennett run one route in 7 on 7′s today. Barely jogged. It’s not like we’re in Day 20 of training camp in sweltering August heat and he’s understandably taking a play off. We’re in Day 2 of a minicamp, it’s 70 degrees with a calm breeze, and after Thursday, there are no practices until the end of July. Totally unacceptable effort and body language". Someone in the comment section made the point that Bennett’s hamstring was slightly dinged, so that may have played a part in his lack of effort. I thought it was a fair point, although his effort prior to the injury wasn’t much better. Yesterday, however, NFL Network ran a Cowboys Hard Knocks marathon, which was filmed in Bennett’s rookie season. I took a quick video of the Cowboys’ coaching staff discussing one of the preseason games. Here’s the special teams coach talking about Bennett: [Have to go to the link above to watch the video] And that reminded me that I had written about Bennett from his appearances on Hard Knocks in the past: "Bennett’s position coach at one point told Martellus to put his helmet on. Bennett, taking his sweet time in a semi show of disrespect, took 16.4 seconds to put it on. Yes, I rewound it on my DVR and I timed it. Stop what you’re doing and count to 16. It’s an eternity. It was kind of like Bennett was thinking “OK, I know I have to put my helmet on. I can’t just completely disobey my coach, or this thing is going to turn into a blowup. I’m just going to take forever to put this thing on to show this guy that he’s not really the boss of me.” At another point, his position coach was giving Bennett instruction. Bennett looked like a zombie. No nodding, no response, no acknowledgement whatsoever from Bennett that another human being was trying to talk to him. Nothing. When the coach walked away, Bennett suddenly snapped out of his zombie-like gaze, turned to the camera, and flashed a big smile. As a 2nd round pick, there was no way in hell Bennett wasn’t going to make the team, but if an undrafted free agent ever acted like Bennett, he’d be cut on the spot". Bennett’s crappy body language at Giants minicamp is nothing new. He’s making $2.5 million this year on a 1-year contract and the Giants are more than a little peeved that he has ballooned up to 291 lbs. If the Giants are indeed not happy with what they’ve seen of Bennett so far, here’s an additional reason to cut him: If Bennett doesn’t make the team, he won’t qualify in the formula that determines compensatory pick distribution. In terms of being awarded picks for losing players, for every player you sign in free agency, that cancels out a player lost. This offseason, the Giants lost the following qualifying players in free agency: Mario Manningham (2 years, $7.5 million) Aaron Ross (3 years, $9.75 million) Dave Tollefson (2 years, $2.4 million) They only signed one unrestricted free agent away from another team: Martellus Bennett (1 year, $2.5 million) Losing Manningham and Ross will likely net the Giants a couple of 6th round picks, and losing Tollefson would likely net a 7. My best guess is that Bennett would likely cancel out Ross… unless he doesn’t make the team, in which case the Giants may just get themselves an extra 6 in 2013. Update: As noted by Blogging the bEast’s compensatory pick expert, ct17, “1 year $2.5 million is usually 7th round value. So Bennett would cancel out Tollefson.” This would give the Giants almost no incentive to cut him to salvage the comp pick, but it would still not surprise me in the slightest to see the Giants cut Bennett simply because… well… he’s an underachiever, who, from what I’ve seen, doesn’t look like he cares even a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Man I predicted this from the day Osi said he wanted to pick him up. Then we actually did and I was a little taken aback. Just not a Tom Coughlin type player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Thats a pretty pessimistic view Reese has a good track record at the TE position of bringing in free agents......lets not jump to conclusions There have been other reports he has added muscle and has a lower body fat index.......If he injured his hamstring I would not expect him to look to spry in minicamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I really don't see the big deal one way or the other. If the coaches feel like he can contribute, he will be on the roster. If he continue to be the lazy slob he has been since being drafted then he will be looking for a new team come September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 I really don't see the big deal one way or the other. If the coaches feel like he can contribute, he will be on the roster. If he continue to be the lazy slob he has been since being drafted then he will be looking for a new team come September. I agree (for whatever that's worth). I thought the article might stimulate some new discussion seeing that there is precious little to discuss on the Giants lately. Regardless, I would take everything this guy says with a grain of salt. I think Bennett felt like second fiddle playing behind Whitten and much of the slander on him was while he was in Dallas, which could give anyone a bad attitude. Supposedly, he's in great shape with added muscle. Whitten has repeatedly said that the Giants are going to love this guy, etc. Pope is the best in the business so let's just see how this pans out. I suspect if there's a problem, Pope and TC will fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 uh oh, time to drink more beer, Osi and myself are gonna be devastated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I agree (for whatever that's worth). I thought the article might stimulate some new discussion seeing that there is precious little to discuss on the Giants lately. Regardless, I would take everything this guy says with a grain of salt. I think Bennett felt like second fiddle playing behind Whitten and much of the slander on him was while he was in Dallas, which could give anyone a bad attitude. Supposedly, he's in great shape with added muscle. Whitten has repeatedly said that the Giants are going to love this guy, etc. Pope is the best in the business so let's just see how this pans out. I suspect if there's a problem, Pope and TC will fix it. No need to worry about that part, Bleedin. Jack is back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 No chance in hell. Not a fucking chance. Don't smoke crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 No chance in hell. Not a fucking chance. Don't smoke crack. somebody wrote it, so it must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 somebody wrote it, so it must be true. The guy who wrote that doesn't know his foot from his ass IMO. Bennet is a knucklehead for sure,, but there is zero chance he gets cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Uh, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashTalker92 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Bennett has great size along with talent (at least some for a second rounder). Add that with a great TE coach and a elite QB to throw it to him. If he can't produce then he'll never. Let's hope the coaches knows when to cut their loses(willy" bean" Joseph) and when to hold them (Ryan Grants). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Bennett has great size along with talent (at least some for a second rounder). Add that with a great TE coach and a elite QB to throw it to him. If he can't produce then he'll never. Let's hope the coaches knows when to cut their loses(willy" bean" Joseph) and when to hold them (Ryan Grants). Time will tell......We are not yet set at the TE position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Bennett has great size along with talent (at least some for a second rounder). Add that with a great TE coach and a elite QB to throw it to him. If he can't produce then he'll never. Let's hope the coaches knows when to cut their loses(willy" bean" Joseph) and when to hold them (Ryan Grants). True....he doesn't have Jason Witten in front of him.....he's got Eli Manning at QB.....absolutely no excuses for him not to succeed. I can understand if he doesn't see a ton of throws because of the other weapons on the team....but without a doubt, he'll need to produce when called upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 We're too thin at the position to just cut him...might he lose his assumed starting position regardless of salary, sure. That said, he could lose a roster spot due to what other guys do. If Christian Hopkins or Adrien Robinson excel or even prove to be productive given the firepower we have on the outside in Nicks and Cruz, that I think is the only way Bennett is released before next offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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