JackStroud Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I told you he could not hit a ball straight..........and a run of the mill 41 yd kick at that Carney is/was lights out 35-45 yds This was Coughlins biggest error ever..........dwarfs keeping the fat prision guard at MLBer we had better not be in any squeekers this year.........without Carney we are DOOMED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 And with Carney at the end of the year we were doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Jack, I gotta say it must take some work to be soo negative this year. I dont think Ive ever been more pumped for a up coming season. I mean, have you seen our defense???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Jack, I gotta say it must take some work to be soo negative this year. I dont think Ive ever been more pumped for a up coming season. I mean, have you seen our defense???? i'm not content with being strong in one phase of the game........you need all cylinders and commmonnnn what did this guy Tynes ever do except hit one out of 3 in GB in the ice bowl to deserve any preferential treatment whatsoever Carney was mr automatic.........you could actually go to the toilet or get a beer when he kicked a FG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Honestly, I dont think I recall Carney hitting any FG over 40 yards...actually, I dont recall him having to kick many over 38 yards. If I had to guess Id say he attempted about 5 from longer than 39 yards and hit 2 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 jack, Not thinking Carney is the answer at kicker DOES NOT equate with loving Tynes. also: Not thinking Blackburn is the answer at MLB DOES NOT equate with loving pierce and Not thinking Palmer was the answer at qb DID NOT equate with loving Kerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Tynes isn't the answer (at least not in my opinion)....not in the Meadowlands, where a strong leg could become a huge advantage. We have an A+ punter in Feagles....I am astounded that we continue to rely on a kicker who is B- quality. And Carney is not the answer either. He was automatic when we were burying teams, and became vulnerable when every point was needed...fuck him. The answer is to get a young kicker that will fortify this position for years. I'm not expecting us to find another Robbie Gould just hanging around waiting to be hired, but certainly, we can do better than what we've got right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Who are these "Tynes guys" you're referring to, Jack? Who's ever said they want Tynes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Honestly, I dont think I recall Carney hitting any FG over 40 yards...actually, I dont recall him having to kick many over 38 yards. If I had to guess Id say he attempted about 5 from longer than 39 yards and hit 2 of them. In 2008 he attempted 8 from 40 or longer, hit 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Interesting article on the Tynes topic: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/239574-if-lawrence-tynes-fails-as-kicker-do-the-giants-have-backup-options Again, has the NCAA stopped producing NFL-caliber kickers? Because whenever I check this topic, it the same old list of retreads (Carney, Gramatica) that pop up for discussion. I remember all these guys being talked about as excellent college kickers....I'm not sure who has been signed, and who is still waiting around for a call. But you'd think after watching Carney help to torpedo our season last year that someone would be making a phone call to bring these guys in for a look: Louie Sakoda, Utah Graham Gano, Florida State David Buehler, USC Sam Swank, Wake Forest Patrick McAfee, West Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Interesting article on the Tynes topic: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/239574-if-lawrence-tynes-fails-as-kicker-do-the-giants-have-backup-options Again, has the NCAA stopped producing NFL-caliber kickers? Because whenever I check this topic, it the same old list of retreads (Carney, Gramatica) that pop up for discussion. I remember all these guys being talked about as excellent college kickers....I'm not sure who has been signed, and who is still waiting around for a call. But you'd think after watching Carney help to torpedo our season last year that someone would be making a phone call to bring these guys in for a look: Louie Sakoda, Utah Graham Gano, Florida State David Buehler, USC Sam Swank, Wake Forest Patrick McAfee, West Virginia I don't know about the other guys but my boy Gano was signed by the Ravens. Jack... nobody on this board, to my knowledge, has been happy with the Giants being content with Tynes at kicker. We keep going over this, and you keep ignoring common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 tampa is gonna have to cut either nugent or bryant id rather have either of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Honestly, I dont think I recall Carney hitting any FG over 40 yards...actually, I dont recall him having to kick many over 38 yards. If I had to guess Id say he attempted about 5 from longer than 39 yards and hit 2 of them. Honestlyy I cannot remember Carney missing more than 2-3 all yr inside or outside the 40 I know he had a couple over 50 YOU guys OFTEN make me want to vomit with your "lets go along with anyhting the Giants decide to do" bias if Giants managment always made the right decision we would be undefeated for the last 15 yrs LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 he hit one over 50 3 over 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I'm taking Tynes #1 and Carney #2 in the fantasy league..fuckit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I'm taking Tynes #1 and Carney #2 in the fantasy league..fuckit i take feagles #1 every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 he hit one over 50 3 over 45 It was in a dome in the Minnesota game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 More telling about Carney is the fact that he wasn't called upon to kick many 40 yard+ FG's last year. We've been over this before, I've posted stats before, and it was apparent to me that Coughlin had no confidence in him hitting for distance unless the conditions were perfect. He was near last in the NFL in 40 yard + FG's attempted last year, out of the regular kickers. So sure, the stats look good as far as percentage... 6 of 8 isn't bad. But a kicker with a stronger leg would've had a lot more chances to put points on the scoreboard than Carney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 More telling about Carney is the fact that he wasn't called upon to kick many 40 yard+ FG's last year. We've been over this before, I've posted stats before, and it was apparent to me that Coughlin had no confidence in him hitting for distance unless the conditions were perfect. He was near last in the NFL in 40 yard + FG's attempted last year, out of the regular kickers. So sure, the stats look good as far as percentage... 6 of 8 isn't bad. But a kicker with a stronger leg would've had a lot more chances to put points on the scoreboard than Carney. Welll that makes it even as I have NO confidence in Coughlin without Spags around..........the guy who really won the trophy Coughlin will play out his contract, make his big bucks and retire........he has no fire in his belly to win a Lombardi........he will not take risks and chances you need to win it all Perhaps the talent on the Giants is so rich he can coach that way and win, but I seriously doubt that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 what i think is fucked up is i swear jack is happy to see tynes play badly. he'd rather be correct and have it hurt the giants, than to be wrong and have it benefit the giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-cal dub Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Do us all a favor, and become a Cowboy fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 what i think is fucked up is i swear jack is happy to see tynes play badly. he'd rather be correct and have it hurt the giants, than to be wrong and have it benefit the giants. I like to see idiocy exposed..........so hang me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I like to see idiocy exposed..........so hang me well me as a giants fan, dont like to see any giants player not play well. because im a giants fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gspotter Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 what a fucking dildo. Is there anyone on other team's you'd like to post about Jackoff. I mean really, you are the worst and I mean the worst kind of fan. You focus on the wrong things and play your one note endlessly. I'm sure every fan base has one of these and I sure enjoyed the other private board without this shit, it's just annoying. I mean really Tynes is the difference for us in the clutch when it last mattered in the game vs Green Bay in the playoffs and Jack would have you think that he can't do his job and he'll isolate an instance and overexaggerate it. Dude, cut the shit and move on to something less Giant-loathing based. I'm quite sure that you revel in the Jack persona you've created, but it's just kind of dumb. It's always the next guy or the thing we don't have that Jack believes is the difference...ad nauseum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I like to see idiocy exposed..........so hang me You watch yourself undress in the mirror or something? Again, who are these Tynes fans you're talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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