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i dont care either, but spending the offseason learning how tocover your own ass andkeep your job just doesn't sit right with me. it also creates the impression that he doens'tthink he did a bad job last year and that the media is out to get him (see hitler comment) fair enough, i just don't want to put up with another year of him. i never gave up on a coach that fast for either of my favorite teams. the padres went 7 years without making the playoffs and i didn't once want bochy fired a) because he's shown the ability to get my team to the world series and b) he wasn't supposed to make the playoffs those years with the talent the pads had. we've had the talent to make the playoffs and then some these past two years with tiki at the top of his game and strahan still a top player at his position. it took years to assemble this team and i felt like we wasted (hopefully not) the two peak years of this generation's team. i'm also not down with people giving him the injury excuse when no one gave fassel that excuse (who had more goodwill built up than coughlin--despite the 49ers loss), and then on top of that coughlin came inhere talking about stopping injuries like there was actually something a coach could do to prevent them i think a good coach can win with any team's 'personality' as long as they have talent. i also think what's left of coughlin's reputation is from what he did in jacksonville, and an expansion team is apretty unique situation so who's to say how he would've done with most other teams. and im honestly not interested in anything he's done outside of ny because his success occurred a long time ago and i haven't been impressed when i look athis 3 years here as a whole. i didn't even turn on him till a third of the way into the season cuz i totally bought into the whole 'this team needs a disciplinarian' theory and thought he was an intense guy, but there's an fine line between intense and out of control and the guy made a shitload of bonehead moves last year. i agree he's better than edwards and maybe 'lousy' is a little harsh but i don't think he's a good coach and i don't want him as coach of my team. as far as your last comment, it's sad but when you look at what ended up happening with tiki the past couple of years, in hindsight it might've been the right direction to go especially with the drafting of eli

stop it!

i dont blame them for not wanting to celebrate mediocrity. i would like that statement and that attitude if it weren't for the mantra you mentioned above, it just seems like he wasn't staying consistent with his attitude towards his team in that one instance because he didn't like the coach. and i understand why fassel was fired, i wont argue that, but i will argue that he's done a better job than coughlin. and im a pretty patient fan too (too young for giants super bowls, padres fan), but i know a lousy coach when i see one and coughlin fits the mold to a T. did you hear he did several off the record one-on-one's with ny media members to learn how to get along better with the media (obviously so they wont call for his head again)? pathetic

i just realized this is going to turn into a coughlin vs fassel thread and that my usual tag team partner in these debates, boohyah, hasn't been around lately. i pre-emptively surrender

haha,i dont know man, we didn't look sharp in the d-backs series and have our 2 worst starters going in this series. but yeah, when the pads DO sweep a team that's usually the total runs for the series

we would've made the playoffs back-to-back if fassel was running the team when the NFC was this pathetic. we went 8-8 after a playoff season under fassel but it wasn't enough to make the playoffs. you need to open your eyes and actually watch some games if you honestly think coughlin has done a good job here. when he gets us out of the first round (let alone to the superbowl) then you can start talking about him in the same sentence as jim fassel. i think someone who shits on a coach who brought his favorite team to the superbowl is the impatient one

that's a horseshit statement by mara, cuz all he ever asks from the giants is that the last home game of the season be meaningful (IE, possibly get them into the playoffs). i figured it was that sort of standard that led to coughlin retaining his job this past season.

i dont think it's right that coughlin was given the benefit of the doubt due to injuries, yet fassel wasn't despite a way better resume with the team

your guess is as good as mine. the owners' kids dont seem to have any balls at all.

i can't feel good about him coming back if the giants make the playoffs and lose in the first round. i didn't want him back after that result last season so i certainly wouldn't want him back after 3 straight years of first round exits. besides, it was no large accomplishment to make the playoffs as the last seed in the NFC last season and it probably won't be this season either

i'll take anyone over coughlin. as far as im concerned he shouldn't be the coach this season

no he was supposed to start today but got pushed back cuz he has a sore bicep

yeah i've been waiting all season, this is the NL litmus test for the pads even though young and germano wont be pitching. you can definitely win this series, you're the better team--but the best team doesn't always win and i just want to see where we stand with the elite competition this season. hopefully this will be an NLCS preview

that's not fair, there's way too much keith elias footage on youtube to sift through

well done

can't they give him like some kidn of upfront bonus to compensate for the next 3 years? the contract is backloaded anyway (i think) so i dont think he's making any less than 27 mil each of the next 3. give him a 10 mil bonus upfront or something to push those 3 first 3 years to a 30 mil average.

the yanks cannot afford to lose him, where's their other rh power bat? they traded sheffield. and have you seen their lefties lately? their hands are tied, they're going to have to bite the bullet, accept the fact that they are going to lose that 27 mil from texas, and offer him the biggest contract once he opts out--otherwise they might as well let posada and rivera leave and start over, cuz the yanks aren't going anywhere with this lineup minus a-rod next season

not at all but i got excited when i saw that headline, read the quote and said 'that's it?'

yeah i just dont like how the media ran with it.

something had to be done. the mets lineup is way too good to be hitting the way they've been hitting--even with the injuries. everyone expects nothing less than a trip to the world series--good to see the mets acknowledge that and are showing a sense of urgency

he had no business talking about strahan's contract situation. i was on the fence about tiki before that comment but after that forget it--i rooted for him when he had the giants uniform on and that's it. and this is coming from someone who agrees with everything he said about coughlin--but his intentions have always sucked

im glad eli said it but honestly it's being blown out of proportion. i really dont think it was that bad of a comment

i hope he does leave, maybe the ny media and yankee fans (the ones who booed him) would get over themselves and come back down to earth a little. i'd kill for a guy like a-rod, even with the season he had last year

yeah i know you agree, how could you not. pujols has every right to complain. and the cards are only 7.5 out and like i said up top i think milwaukee will fade, he should be managing that game as if he's trying to help himself out in the world series.