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  1. Good for Mike, glad he's decided to hang it up on a high note and still in one piece. The reign of Justin Tuck has officially begun. What Justin Tuck has been doing up until now was just giving everyone a small dose of his ability.
  2. Michael Jennings might not make the team either, but that is the way it goes in the NFL. I do not believe Tyree has much to worry about since his competion has shown so little so far.
  3. Wish some people were traded but I guess I'll have to wait on that.
  4. If 16 games were enough, nobody would watch preseason games. We simply do not get enough football. Its the reason why we are here doing mock drafts, watching teams during free agency, watching the draft, reading the mini camp reports, and following every single practice during late July and August. They could make it 20 games and there still wouldn't be enough football to satisfy the demand for the game. One of the items that the players union has not wanted to cap is actually rookie salaries. I'm surprised considering the veterans would be the ones getting short changed.
  5. LMAO, wow we're checking player's weight nowadays and wondering if its twinkees and beer or red meat and protein shakes. We've had an offensive linemen come in at over 300 pounds that couldn't block the doorway to a subway car. Only way we're gonna know if Boss has improved is a damn good long hard look at him in the preseason. Not concerned about him losing speed either, David Boston was running around the field at 240 and a 4.50 40 time. I'm just not going to comment on that one post mentioning Boss as the top 3 TE's that have played for the NY Giants.
  6. Leaders retire, teams move on; ask Tiki. The Giants will have to find a way to win without Strahan. I like Strahan as mucha s everyone else, I would rather Strahan went out on top than comeback and have a bad season or worse and get hurt.
  7. I was ready to say goodbye to Strahan last year and say hello to Justin Tuck. I haven't changed my opinion on that. Strahan can finish out his contract without the extra cash or go ride a desk for espn.
  8. Yeah that was Charles Woodson during the NFC conference game. He got up after that play thinking he was still a Raider.
  9. Oh the love... :brooding: How about he just wants to make sure he has a job and still living in the same state at the end of the season? He's a family man and needs to plan for his family. Haven't heard any numbers on what Jacobs is looking for so how about we wait before throwing him into the greedy pro athlete category. If the players held any real power in the NFL, the owners would have folded up shop a long time ago.
  10. Wynn is a bit of veteran depth and nothing more. How can a backup DE who at his best mustered 5 1/2 sacks in one season possibly be a ploy to bring back Strahan? Wynn is not even in the same class. Football beat writers must be on vacation and dear abby is filling for the football sports section.
  11. A trade ploy? And what is with the team and not me crap? Shockey didn't step out of line once last season. They asked Shockey to block and that is just what he did. He is doing everything the Giants are asking him to do, isn't that thinking about the team?
  12. lol those aren't facts, thats innuendo at best. You have to wonder if this is a similar unnamed source that the Boston Herald found for its story on the Patriots taping the Rams super bowl walk through back in 2002. I will challenge people to come up with facts because there is so far an incredible lack of it. Still looking for that one word from Shockey saying he wants out. If all anyone can find is that unnamed source or a friend of a friend, well then someone help Goodall find that tape. Seriously, take a look at Chad Johnson for example. Is there any question in anyone's mind where he stands?
  13. Wow, either Pat Hanlon has gotten much better at giving hand jobs or everyone's still drunk from the super bowl.
  14. If Snee wants it, then give it to him. He has been The Force on the right side of the line. The only thing Whimper has done to impress me is stay on the roster.
  15. I'm amazed how this thread has warped from rational arguments either for or against trading Shockey to posts with very little fact and plenty of opinion. I think its really sad to see so many posts telling Shockey to STFU when he has said absolutely nothing this past season. With all the talk since the super bowl about Shockey getting traded, not wanting to be here, etc. Maybe people need to start following their own advice. Now Shockey hasn't said a single word about this, not one. If anyone is foolish to believe the team is better off without Shockey, then by all means trade him. The price before and during the draft was Harper and the second round pick, now its a 2009 first round and a fourth that is conditional because if Shockey has his typical season; it gets upgraded to a second round pick. Now that is deal truly worthy of the kind of player Jeremy Shockey is.
  16. No Giant Shocker THE 2008 Giants draft list contains seven names and no one can be sure if it's a class to remember or forget. Still, it is not too soon to already stamp the Giants as big winners after this weekend's talent grab-bag simply because they did not trade away Jeremy Shockey. Smartly, general manager Jerry Reese resisted the temptation to gain a prime draft pick (the Saints' second-rounder, the 40th overall selection) and kept Shockey where he belongs. A tight end position that at present is a strength with Shockey and Kevin Boss would have instantly devolved into a glaring weakness if Reese listened to those with short memories who turned on the once wildly-popular Shockey. The bulging tattooed biceps, the flowing blond hair and all those No. 80 jerseys? How did Shockey the phenomenon become Shockey the pariah after he got hurt and the Giants hit the road and shockingly rolled to Super Bowl glory? The case to jettison Shockey is based largely on hearsay and bogus observations. Like a spark on dry brush, the wildfire spread that Shockey is a terror around Eli Manning, that the fiery tight end browbeat the timid quarterback after every errant throw, that Shockey was a crazy man in meetings, sulking as he returned to the huddle knowing he was open with nothing to show for it. Well, anyone who thinks of Manning shrinking around Shockey like an intimidated wimp has never spent a minute around Manning. The guy didn't suddenly grow up in frigid Green Bay or in the last two minutes of Super Bowl XLII. Eli is never going to grab Shockey's facemask and tell him to stuff it, just as Shockey is never going to quietly shrink into the background. The personalities of these two athletes could not be more different and sure, Shockey can be a pain, but players look beyond that when judging a teammate. They look to how he works and if they can count on him in the clutch. Shockey has earned high marks in the tests that matter most. Can anyone possibly look at the running game failures without him (a dip of nearly one yard per game) and not conclude that Shockey's blocking is an under-appreciated ingredient? Until Shockey stands up and says, "I want out,"' reports of what he told friends and confidants should be filed under "That's Shockey" bluster. No doubt following the season he told Reese he wanted to be traded. Shockey says so much and some it of even makes sense. The emotive, fly-off-the-handle Shockey is capable of eruption but usually it's harmless steam escaping his overheated engine. The bandwagon detractors are judging Shockey by an unfair standard. Any player would have difficulty coming to grips with going down with a broken leg and then watching his team take off. Are they better without me? Do they miss me? These are perfectly normal questions for anyone. Go ask Phil Simms what was coursing through his mind as Jeff Hostetler was directing the Giants - Phil's Giants - to Super Bowl triumph. Does he care? Shockey was instructed by his medical advisors not to attend Super Bowl XLII, as he was not far removed from surgery and on crutches. He couldn't stay away and, on his own dime, limped onto a flight, accompanied by his mother, to be with the guys in Glendale, Ariz. Shockey is not expected to be with his championship team tomorrow for the traditional ceremony on the South Lawn of the White House with President Bush, but you never know. The best argument for trading Shockey is the fear that his best days are behind him, that the wear and tear and toll on his lower body has robbed him of his explosive speed. After six hard seasons, his long-term stock is not on the rise, but he should have at least two high-level years left in his tank. The Giants are better off with him. [/size][/font]
  17. I thought Diehl did a damn good job for a guard playing tackle. Glad he's finally starting to get paid as a tackle and could be a pro bowl candidate this upcoming season.
  18. I saw this thread and didn't want to be the one to be the pessimist, glad to see others were up for the cause. This team has the potential to go on a run of super bowl visits and so do half the other teams in the NFL. If there is one thing I'm happy to finally start seeing it is the team finally playing up to expectations and putting a consistent effort up since Coughlin has taken over to win. This team has been in a funk for 20 years, following up their successes with utter failures. It is the path that is now behind us that I hope will give this team the strength to meet the challenges before them. There is nothing harder in the NFL than repeating success and even those organizations that writers are now calling franchises of the decade struggle with it.
  19. I agree, you also have to consider that they're always going to assume that the WR we drafted is going to replace the oldest one. I'm surprised that they haven't mentioned Robert Henderson is being groomed to replace Michael Strahan.
  20. I noticed that one as well and stopped there. That just killed it for me. Now if this is a good example, why don't they train for this like they all train for the combine?
  21. I remember how everyone raved about the draft Detroit had back in 2004. Roy Williams, Kevin Jones and Teddy Lehman. Millen was heralded a draft wiz that year, Lions moving in the right direction, etc. Only pick he got right was Roy Williams. Millen has only managed to get one great pick each year with the others washing out of football or landing elsewhere in the league. Its not even that hard to land the great pick because they're in the top ten every year with the exception of this year and 2001. Draft grades depend entirely on teams picking whom scouts and analysts have decided is best for the team. You go against them, your draft was horrible.
  22. I can't really fault the Packers for taking two QB's. Rodgers I believe was drafted by Sherman, not McCarthy so you have to wonder how much is Rodgers the kind of QB that McCarthy would like to have. BTW, anyone know the name of the third string QB on the Packers? How can you pass up the opportunity on taking a projected first round QB in the second when your starter is pretty much unproven. If the Packers picked up Culpepper, he'd probably be create a QB controversy after a few bad games by Rodgers. Its the post Farve years in GB and to follow up Farve you have to be absolutely sold on your QB or turn into Miami. Hey if Rodgers does stick, trading Brohm to Miami or any number of teams out there looking for a QB in the next couple of years could pay in spades.
  23. I'm pretty amazed how one super bowl pretty much has erased some horrible drafts and terrible offseason moves by Ernie Accorsi in the minds of some of the fans. Accorsi built the super bowl team, well he also built the 4-12 team. Some people have given up on Moss, I'd just like to point out that the exact same thing happened with the other Moss.
  24. I'm really not impressed with this pickup. It looks good when you think he's a first round talent found in the third. When you consider the reasons he dropped from the first to the third, I get the feeling he will not even look like a third round talent in training camp this year or the next. Its not the off-field issues, I question his work ethic. You can half-ass it at the college level when you're physically better than your opponent and clearly the better receiver on the team; its a whole new game at the NFL level. Whether or not he lights a fire under Sinorice Moss is subject to debate. It was a slightly smarter choice than Moss was simply because Manningham actually can do the little things like help the return game that Moss never has.
  25. I really liked this pick. Its encouraging to watch the team actively and aggressively move to find a viable backup to Manning.
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