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Oh yes, I just mean two FA lineman need to be guys that are actually capable of starting in this league, not the Bredeson or Glowinski's of the world. Guys we can insert at LG and RG or RT. As far as the rest of FA, additional lineman are needed for quality depth, and definitely supplemented in the draft as well; At least one lineman in the top 3 rounds, and frankly I wouldn't mind if we drafted two in the top 3 rounds, including with our inevitable top 10 pick. Basically plan as if we need to fill 3 starting OL positions and 3 backup OL positions on top of that, and force Neal to have to compete for a starting spot (or make him a backup).

Sign two free agent lineman, ideally a G and RT, then draft the guy. Neal can compete for one of the spots too, otherwise he's a backup/Swing tackle. Getting the two free agent lineman should be the priority over drafting OL. We have enough OL draft picks on the roster.

Remember, we really needed Leonard Williams and Barkley on this team. Two FA guards were deprioitized over them.

We somehow managed to put together an OL worse than Nate Soldier, Matt Skura, Billy Price, and Will Hernandez.

Gano MVP baby!

Gano remains the best scoring player on this team, the last 2 1/2 games.

Somehow this is only a one score game. Pinnock and Kayvon to thank for that.

And our $51M players at that. Only passes these guys are catching are when the DB is playing off and soft by like 12 yards

Gano is the highest scoring Giants player of the last 8 quarters.

Idiot John Vilma saying the offensive line is doing okay today? Lol they've given up 4 sacks and have 4 penalties

Our $51M Tight end can't catch a back shoulder against fucking Eli Apple

Just make him the primary back from here on out, rest of this game.

Good to see him playing and doing well for a franchise that's believes in offensive lines.

Here comes our signature 3 and out on the 2nd drive of the game

Just looking ahead towards next year at our needs on this team, if the first 4 games are any indication New starters needed: FS SS CB (Jackson is a FA) DL (Williams is a FA) Edge G G RT WR RB (least priority though) QB We have an estimated $43M in cap space (+$6M more if we cut Glowinski, and +$4M more cutting Slayton)

What really grinds my gears is how other teams like Philly have been able to put together a GREAT OL, yet we can't even get close to below average. Sure they have Kelce and Lane Johnson, but they also developed Dickerson, pulled a high caliber LT Mailata out of their ass in the 7th round, Cam Jurgens was looking good until he just got hurt. Even the Chiefs. Take a guy like Joe Thuney, who they signed in 2021 to a big contract. Instead that offseason, we fucking sign Kenny Golladay, and insist continuing this farce of starting Guards of Will Hernandez and Lemieux (and insisting Will Hernandez be flanked at RT by fucking Nate Solder)....and fucking Billy Price at C. This OL stuff really gets me going. The incompetence. Coaching, the actual mentoring/teaching of the players might be a factor, but you don't go into a 2023 season with no competent guards to speak of, and wishful thinking on Neal and on a rookie JMS, and expect a good OL. You just don't bank on that. I ask again, did we really need Barkely and Leonard Williams, instead of two capable starting OL in the offseason? I don't get why anyone in the media, fans, etc are surprised the 2023 OL is garbage. It's really not a shocking result. It's an expected result. This is what happens when you leave 4 out of 5 OL positions to wishful thinking.

With or without Barkely, Thomas, and JMS, we weren't beating the Dolphins.

No Lemieux is a good thing. Addition by subtraction. As for JMS, way to get the guy injured on your stupid, failed scrum QB sneak play, Daboll....as if we needed any more gaps on this gap filled offensive line.

Through the first two games this year dating back to the mid-season faltering last year, the giants have been 5-8-1 even with Barkley. It's a damn shame we've wasted this guy's career because we couldn't put together even an average OL in 6 years.

We need to replace both Safety positions this offseason. McKinney isn't the answer. Pinnock is a backup at best. Same with Belton.

Plus Carolina puts up 27 pts on them, but we can't get more than 3, while they're the 4th worst defense in the league.

It's a good point. More broadly, I'll just say the whole team looks dysfunctional across offense, defense, and special teams, and for that it's definitely the coaching. The Giants talent isnt great but it's not as bad as they've shown. They're a 7-8 win team currently playing like a 3 win team.

That's why I say, if Neal doesn't prove himself this year, we can't go in to 2024 expecting him to be a starter. We'd have to try to find a replacement, and just let him be a backup/swing tackle the remaining 2 years of his contract. Same with Ezeudu and Mckethan. If Neal competes in camp in 2024 and proves himself in a competition then it's icing on the cake.

Honestly would Tyre Phillips really have been worse than this guy?

He trash talks as well as he blocks