Bigblue25 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Two days away and not sure if we're doing this, but here goes first round. Player Pos. School Round 1 1 Houston Khalil Mack OB Buffalo Yes, much better fit in Crennel's scheme and can be a beast here. 2. St. Louis F/WAS Sammy Watkins WR Clemson Gives them tons of speed to counter the physical secondaries in the West. 3. Jacksonville Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M They surprise and reunite Matthews with Joeckel 4. Cleveland Mike Evans WR Texas A&M Evans has the length Shanahan desires and will make a good trio with Cameron and Gordon 5. Oakland Jadeveon Clowney DE South Carolina I think writers like Clowney more then teams and he drops a little. Still it's Oakland's gain and he will be a great fit has a weakside DE. 6. Atlanta Greg Robinson OT Auburn Matt Ryan was hit 100 times last year. They need to keep him upright and the upside of Robinson will be too good to pass on. 7. Tampa Bay Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M The interest is real and Manziel will be great in Tedford's offense. 8. Minnesota Ryan Shazier OB Ohio State Perfect run and chase WLB for Mike Zimmer 9. Buffalo Taylor Lewan OT Michigan Lewan and Glenn make a great OT duo to keep Manuel protected. 10. Detroit Kyle Van Noy OB BYU Van Noy is a do it all LB that can play in both 3 and 4 man fronts. 11. Tennessee Anthony Barr OB UCLA Barr plus Horton equals potential greatness. 12. New York Zack Martin OG Notre Dame Martin will be a great fit in McAdoo's ZBS and will provide the versatility the Giants desire on their Oline. 13. St. Louis Aaron Donald DT Pittsburgh Donald gives them a great defensive line with Brockers, Long and Quinn. Williams loves attacking defenses and they get that with their first two picks. 14. Chicago Ha Ha Clinton-Dix FS Alabama Clinton-Dix will be great has a single high safety in Tucker's scheme. 15. Pittsburgh Darqueze Dennard DC Michigan State Dennard brings the physicality the Steelers like in their secondary. 16. Dallas Dominique Easley DE Florida Perfect UT for Marinelli's scheme 17. Baltimore Eric Ebron TE North Carolina Despite signing Daniels and resigning Pitta they need a young flex TE and Ebron will give Flacco they intermediate target he needs. 18. New York Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State Gives them the speed they desire, can play slot or boundary. Will work great in Mornhinweg's offense. 19. Miami Marqise Lee WR Southern Cal Lee gives Tannehill another receiving weapon and can play the slot or boundary. Lee is great after the catch and has the speed to stretch the seam. 20. Arizona Calvin Pryor FS Louisville Need their own thumper in the middle, 21. Green Bay Louis Nix DT Notre Dame The Packers resigned Raji only to a one year deal and could use a young NT. 22. Philadelphia Dee Ford OB Auburn The pass rusher the Eagles need will fit well in the Wide 9 defense with hand in the dirt or standing up. 23. Kansas City Morgan Moses OT Virginia Moses is versatile, but protects best at RT where he'll form a good duo with Fisher and give the Chiefs a young pair of great OT's 24. Cincinnati Kony Ealy DE Missouri Perfect replacement for Johnson has a RDE. Raw with tons of upside. 25. San Diego Kyle Fuller DC Virginia Tech Fuller will be great has a technical zone CB in San Diego's scheme. 26. Cleveland F/IND Teddy Bridgewater QB Louisville Bridgewater is a steal here. Will have tons of weapons to throw too. 27. New Orleans Odell Beckham Jr. WR LSU Saints take the local product to replace Moore in the slot. 28. Carolina Joel Bitonio OG Nevada Analysts say Bitonio is too small to stay outside. He's similar in size to Jordan Gross the guy he replaces to protect Cam's blindside. 29. New England Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota Can play 5 tech in 3 man front or 1 tech in a four man front. 30. San Francisco Justin Gilbert DC Oklahoma State Gilbert will fit well in the slot or on the boundary in Fangio's scheme. He has the length, physicality and speed the Niners desire. 31. Denver CJ Mosley OB Alabama Mosley falls because of the injury, but is still a steal here for Denver. 32. Seattle Xavier Su'a-Filo OG UCLA Su'a Filo will fit great in Seattle's power man scheme. He fill in right away and solve a big need for Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I just can't get myself to do it this year. I did a giants one in the other thread, but just not doing one I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 ballsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Maybe tomorrow I can put one of these up, but I make no promises. I can't see Clowney falling to 5, nor can I see Matthews going before Robinson....but we'll see soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Every Mock draft I see, including major sites like CBS and SI, have the Texans not taking a QB. Am I missing something? The Texans currently only have Case Keenum and Tj Yates, right? For the life of me, I can't see the Texans not taking a QB with the 1st pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Every Mock draft I see, including major sites like CBS and SI, have the Texans not taking a QB. Am I missing something? The Texans currently only have Case Keenum and Tj Yates, right? For the life of me, I can't see the Texans not taking a QB with the 1st pick. I think it's because there wasn't a single QB set himself apart from the pack. Looking back to the Eli draft...Eli and Roethlisberger set the bar awfully high, with Rivers right there. There was wide consensus that they were the 3 guys. This year, there really wasn't even 1 that made teams stop to think that he was the guy. It was more of a 'this guy screwed up the least' lukewarm feelings all around. And because there are recent examples of a Jamarcus Russel who aside from a big arm, didn't wow teams either, and it crushed the Raides for how many years? The #1 overall pick is too valuable in the detriment it can cause if you miss, to risk it on a guy you feel iffy about. And this, is why the Texans shouldn't take a QB. Not to mention, I read something way back when draft talk was first starting that next year's QB class will be significantly better than this year. I don't have the source or the names at this point, but if that's the case, teams might be willing to put some linemen in there to bring a QB into (next year) as opposed to bringing the linemen in after the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Every Mock draft I see, including major sites like CBS and SI, have the Texans not taking a QB. Am I missing something? The Texans currently only have Case Keenum and Tj Yates, right? For the life of me, I can't see the Texans not taking a QB with the 1st pick. They can get one at 33 and it will be much better value. I have them getting Bortles, which some thought could be the pick at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Two days away and not sure if we're doing this, but here goes first round. 1. Houston- Mack, Khalil – OB, Buffalo 2. St. Louis- Watkins, Sammy – WR, Clemson 3. Jacksonville- Matthews, Jake – OT, Texas A&M 4. Cleveland- Evans, Mike – WR, Texas A&M 5. Oakland- Clowney, Jadeveon – DE, South Carolina 6. Atlanta- Robinson, Greg – OT, Auburn 7. Tampa Bay- Manziel, Johnny – QB, Texas A&M 8. Minnesota- Mosley, CJ – OB, Alabama 9. Buffalo- Lewan, Taylor – OT, Michigan 10. Detroit- Van Noy, Kyle – OB, BYU 11. Tennessee- Barr, Anthony – OB, UCLA 12. New York- Martin, Zack – OG, Notre Dame 13. St. Louis- Donald, Aaron – DT, Pittsburgh 14. Chicago- Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha – FS, Alabama 15. Pittsburgh- Dennard, Darqueze – DC, Michigan State 16. Dallas- Ealy, Kony – DE, Missouri 17. Baltimore- Ebron, Eric – TE, North Carolina 18. New York- Beckham Jr., Odell – WR, LSU 19. Miami- Lee, Marqise – WR, Southern Cal 20. Arizona- Pryor, Calvin – FS, Louisville 21. Green Bay- Nix, Louis – DT, Notre Dame 22. Philadelphia- Ford, Dee – OB, Auburn 23. Kansas City- Moses, Morgan – OT, Virginia 24. Cincinnati- Bridgewater, Teddy – QB, Louisville 25. San Diego- Fuller, Kyle – DC, Virginia Tech 26. Cleveland- Carr, Derek – QB, Fresno State 27. New Orleans- Cooks, Brandin – WR, Oregon State 28. Carolina- Bitonio, Joel – OG, Nevada 29. New England -Hageman, Ra'Shede – DT, Minnesota 30. San Francisco- Gilbert, Justin – DC, Oklahoma State 31. Denver- Shazier, Ryan – OB, Ohio State 32. Seattle-Su'a-Filo, Xavier – OG, UCLA Hell no we can't do this... I'm barely able to read to #12 let alone know the talent level and what not... shit I get my info from people like you Fish, Jim, and Roc, Gmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Every Mock draft I see, including major sites like CBS and SI, have the Texans not taking a QB. Am I missing something? The Texans currently only have Case Keenum and Tj Yates, right? For the life of me, I can't see the Texans not taking a QB with the 1st pick. Yea the QBs of this year's draft aren't worth top 15 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I'm ticked at myself I haven't found the time to do the 5 up, 5 down draft preview I like to write, it really gets me primed for the draft and gets me excited about some players outside the top 50 or so guys. Even with the late draft this year, I just have so much going on... I will do a first round mock before tomorrow night, though, and yes, the mock draft competition is back on, I'll do the spreadsheet, post all the mocks here. Even if I'm just basically throwing up darts to make my picks, I'm going to do a mock. But I really wish I had more time to do my usual pre-draft study... it just makes the draft so much more fun for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Maybe tomorrow I can put one of these up, but I make no promises. I can't see Clowney falling to 5, nor can I see Matthews going before Robinson....but we'll see soon enough. Matthews is my #1 overall player. People rate Robinson over Matthews because of his ceiling, Robinson also has a much lower floor. I don't know why drafting a safe pick has become abnormal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I'm not convinced that at least two of the four teams, Texans, Jaguars, Vikes, and Browns, aren't taking a QB with their top draft picks. I think we'll see at least two QBs go in the top 10. My going out on a limb pick for the shocker of the draft is Rams taking Manziel with #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I'm not convinced that at least two of the four teams, Texans, Jaguars, Vikes, and Browns, aren't taking a QB with their top draft picks. I think we'll see at least two QBs go in the top 10. My going out on a limb pick for the shocker of the draft is Rams taking Manziel with #2. I think Johnny Menzel goes in the top 10... for as much a headcase he maybe, he's pretty good and looks like RGIII out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 I don't predict trades, which will throw off my whole mock. A trade I think is going to happen though, is Dallas going up into the top ten and drafting Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I think Johnny Menzel goes in the top 10... for as much a headcase he maybe, he's pretty good and looks like RGIII out there. Right, plus after a 5'11 QB just one the SB, along with 6'0 Brees not too long ago, perhaps teams are rethinking QB height and can accept QB's with this stature. If Manziel was 6'5, he'd be the #1 pick bar none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Ok. Here is mine, done quickly. 1. Houston - Jadeveon Clowney (DE, South Carolina)2. St. Louis - Greg Robinson (OT, Auburn)3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack (OLB/DE, Buffalo)4. Cleveland - Sammy Watkins (WR, Clemson)5. Oakland - Jake Matthews (OT, Texas A&M)6. Atlanta - Taylor Lewan (OT, Michigan)7. Tampa Bay - Johnny Manziel (QB, Texas A&M)8. Minnesota - Aaron Donald (DT, Pittsburgh)9. Buffalo - Zach Martin (OT, Notre Dame)10. Detroit - Mike Evans (WR, Texas A&M)11. Tennessee - Anthony Barr (OLB, UCLA)12. New York Giants - Eric Ebron (TE, UNC)13. St. Louis - Justin Gilbert (CB, Oklahoma St.)14. Chicago - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (S, Alabama)15. Pittsburgh - Odell Beckham Jr. (WR, LSU)16. Dallas - Kyle Fuller (CB, Virginia Tech)17. Baltimore - Calvin Pryor (S, Louisville)18. New York jets - Darqueze Dennard (CB, Michigan St.)19. Miami - Juwan James (OT, Tennessee)20. Arizona - Blake Bortles (QB, UCF)21. Green Bay - Kony Ealy (DE, Missouri)22. Philadelphia - Cody Latimer (WR, Indiana)23. Kansas City - Brandon Cooks (WR, Oregon St.)24. Cincinnati- Ryan Shazier (LB, Ohio St.)25. San Diego - Jason Verrett (CB, TCU)26. Cleveland - Derek Carr (QB, Fresno St.)27. New Orleans - CJ Mosley (LB, Alabama)28. Carolina - Morgan Moses (OT, Virginia)29. New England - Ra'shede Hageman (DT, Minnesota)30. San Francisco - Dee Ford (DE, Auburn)31. Denver - Stephen Truitt (DE, Notre Dame)32. Seattle - Xavier Su'a-Filo (OG, UCLA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 And mine:1. Houston Texans - Khalil Mack, DE/OLB, Buffalo2. St. Louis Rams (from Washington Redskins) - Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M3. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jadeveon Clowney, DE/OLB, South Carolina4. Cleveland Browns - Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn5. Oakland Raiders - Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson6. Atlanta Falcons - Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M8. Minnesota Vikings - Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida9. Buffalo Bills - Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina10. Detroit Lions - Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State11. Tennessee Titans - Anthony Barr, DE/OLB, UCLA12. New York Giants - Zack Martin, OT/OG/C, Notre Dame13. St. Louis Rams - Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan14. Chicago Bears - Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Hasean Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama16. Dallas Cowboys - Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville17. Baltimore Ravens - Ra’Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota18. New York Jets - Odell Beckham, WR, LSU19. Miami Dolphins - Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State20. Arizona Cardinals - Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech21. Green Bay Packers - Marqise Lee, WR, Southern California22. Philadelphia Eagles - Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State23. Kansas City Chiefs - Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State24. Cincinnati Bengals - Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois25. San Diego Chargers - Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri26. Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis Colts) - Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville27. New Orleans Saints - Dee Ford, DE, Auburn28. Carolina Panthers - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama29. New England Patriots - Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech30. San Francisco 49ers - Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State31. Denver Broncos - Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame32. Seattle Seahawks - C.J. Mosely, ILB, Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I don't predict trades, which will throw off my whole mock. A trade I think is going to happen though, is Dallas going up into the top ten and drafting Manziel. They have a solid QB in Romo... For all of Dallas' problems, Romo is the least of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 They have a solid QB in Romo... For all of Dallas' problems, Romo is the least of them. He is 34 and they are in cap hell for the foreseeable future. They restructed his contract to be backloaded, which means he makes $17 million in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 He is 34 and they are in cap hell for the foreseeable future. They restructed his contract to be backloaded, which means he makes $17 million in 2015. Not only that, he folds like a lawn chair when the game counts the most...especially in the last few minutes of a crucial game. At his age, I can see Dallas grooming his replacement. They don't really have anyone behind Romo that has a future with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 isn't romo impossible to trade right now? the bonus would accelerate and cost the cowboys like 30 mil or some shit this year right? and the dead money for cutting him is like 50 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Not only that, he folds like a lawn chair when the game counts the most...especially in the last few minutes of a crucial game. At his age, I can see Dallas grooming his replacement. They don't really have anyone behind Romo that has a future with the team. I don't think Manzel lasts that far back... Dallas would have to trade up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I think the fact that we don't already know who is going #1 overall yet is a pretty good indicator that Houston wants to trade out of that pick. I think they want Bortles, but if they can't pull off a trade, they are going to take Clowney, and I think the Jags take Bortles at #3. With that said, here's my mock (no trades, even though I suspect there will be at least 3: 1. Texans - Jadeveon Clowney 2. Rams - Greg Robinson 3. Jaguars - Black Bortles 4. Browns - Jake Mathews 5. Raiders - Khalil Mack 6. Falcons - Aaron Donald 7. Buccaneers - Sammy Watkins 8. Vikings - Justin Gilbert 9. Bills - Taylor Lewan 10. Lions - CJ Mosley 11. Titans - Mike Evans 12. Giants - Zack Martin - *note* - I have Martin here only because the guys I would take over him are all gone. 13. Rams - Anthony Barr 14. Bears - Darqueze Dennard 15. Steelers - Haha Clinton-Dix 16. Cowboys - Odell Beckham Jr 17. Ravens - Chris Borland 18. Jets - Cyrus Kuoandjio 19. Dolphins - Xavier S'ua-Filo 20. Cardinals - Kyle Fuller 21. Packers - Calvin Pryor 22. Eagles - Brandin Cooks 23. Chiefs - Eric Ebron 24. Bengals - Stephon Tuitt 25. Chargers - Jason Verrett 26. Browns - Derek Carr 27. Saints - Joel Bitonio 28. Panthers - Ja'Wuan James 29. Patriots - Austin Sefarian-Jenkins 30. 49ers - Demarcus Lawrence 31. Broncos - David Yankey 32. Seahawks - Ra'shede Hageman Well, there you have it, just in time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 3 for 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 And mine: 1. Houston Texans - Khalil Mack, DE/OLB, Buffalo 2. St. Louis Rams (from Washington Redskins) - Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M 3. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jadeveon Clowney, DE/OLB, South Carolina 4. Cleveland Browns - Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn 5. Oakland Raiders - Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson 6. Atlanta Falcons - Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M 8. Minnesota Vikings - Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida 9. Buffalo Bills - Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina 10. Detroit Lions - Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State 11. Tennessee Titans - Anthony Barr, DE/OLB, UCLA 12. New York Giants - Zack Martin, OT/OG/C, Notre Dame 13. St. Louis Rams - Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan 14. Chicago Bears - Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh 15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Hasean Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama 16. Dallas Cowboys - Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville 17. Baltimore Ravens - Ra’Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota 18. New York Jets - Odell Beckham, WR, LSU 19. Miami Dolphins - Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State 20. Arizona Cardinals - Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech 21. Green Bay Packers - Marqise Lee, WR, Southern California 22. Philadelphia Eagles - Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State 23. Kansas City Chiefs - Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State 24. Cincinnati Bengals - Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois 25. San Diego Chargers - Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri 26. Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis Colts) - Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville 27. New Orleans Saints - Dee Ford, DE, Auburn 28. Carolina Panthers - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama 29. New England Patriots - Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech 30. San Francisco 49ers - Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State 31. Denver Broncos - Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame 32. Seattle Seahawks - C.J. Mosely, ILB, Alabama 2 for 32.....duhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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